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« Reply #30 on Dec 12, 2010, 10:26am » | ![[Quote]](http://images.proboards.com/buttons/quote.gif "[Quote]") |
Jazz, off the top of my head I don't think the deepest period of sleep is REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep. But I could be wrong.
One thing I try and stick to is that an hour before midnight is worth two after. This is just my personal thing. What it means is that if I go to bed at 11 instead of 12 I get the same benefit from the sleep than if I'd gone at 12 but stayed in bed two hours longer the next day. So, say 11pm to 6am is the same as 12 midnight to 8am as regards how rested I feel.
I worked shifts for ten years, 6am till 2, 2 till 10pm and 10 till 6am (mornings, afters and nights), a week of each more or less. That played havoc with me and I never got used to it.
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« Reply #31 on Dec 12, 2010, 12:04pm » | |
You're right Mark, but I don't know the name of the deepest and most valuable period. But I think this is where the healing takes place. I fought this 'before midnight' sleep for years, but I think now it's true.
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« Reply #32 on Dec 12, 2010, 3:22pm » | |
got only 49 % in that test- though i might have been kind of off with some things i clicked as some of it was guessing (and every person's definition of likely or unlikely is kind of different)... however, they tell me i should use my bedroom only for sleeping - yeah, if we had more than one room that'd be good...
well as to before midnight sleep, i still think it depends on the person... if i got o bed too early i have trouble falling asleep (though that is a lot better now, as a child i could never fall asleep quickly...)
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« Reply #33 on Dec 12, 2010, 4:14pm » | |
77% on the test for me. I sleep great though and only use an alarm a few times a year.
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« Reply #34 on Dec 12, 2010, 4:30pm » | |
I got 77% too and have absolutely no trouble sleeping. I think some of the attitudes of the test are old fashioned, as though you should never watch TV or listen to the radio in bed.
And the questions were somewhat skewed. Rather than certain things being used to "help" you to sleep, I think that they should accept that you can do certain things and no matter what, you are going to quickly fall asleep. Absolutely nothing can keep me awake once I am in bed unless the temperature is above 30°.
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« Reply #35 on Dec 12, 2010, 4:31pm » | |
I got 69%. However, there was something wrong with the test. Every time I entered weight, it popped up a window telling me to put in a value of between 0 and 13 pounds. ~?~
I finally entered 13 pounds so I could complete the test. The next question was neck size "if you know it". Of course I didn't know it. The test results said my neck size probably makes me snore and wake myself up. I suspect it used 13 as the neck size, rather than the real size, since my neck is normal-sized.
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« Reply #36 on Dec 12, 2010, 4:35pm » | |
13 would be a very small neck.
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« Reply #37 on Dec 12, 2010, 4:40pm » | |
Really? Maybe for a man. Mine is smaller than that, and I'm not pencil-necked, or even swan-like.
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« Reply #38 on Dec 12, 2010, 4:44pm » | |
I think that shirt collars for men start at 14.
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« Reply #39 on Dec 13, 2010, 1:43am » | |
I had the same trouble entering my weight in pounds, but it let me enter in stone so that's what I did. I think I was penalized on the score mostly for liking coffee and also having a TV in the bedroom, even though it is very seldom turned on. The jackbooted sleep patrol can have my espresso maker when they pry my dead cold hands from the lever.
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« Reply #40 on Dec 13, 2010, 2:10am » | |
Bixa, they were asking for weight in stone, which is a UK thing. One stone is 14 lbs so if I weighed 10 lbs I would be a svelte 140 (chance would be a fine thing!). So weight is X stone Y lbs.
I scored 81%. I think I tripped over the caffeine hurdle. However, since I normally only have coffee in the morning, I think the survey is a little skewed there.
My sleep patterns have changed a great deal over time. Until I was in my mid/late 30s, I thought insomnia was when it took more than 60 seconds to fall asleep. Then I had years of problems falling asleep but once asleep a brass band could have marched through my bedroom without me being aware of it. Now I fall asleep easily enough but wake up several times during the night. I don't stay awake, I simply wake, turn over and get back to sleep quickly. But I find that I don't feel as rested because of my several awakenings.
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« Reply #41 on Dec 13, 2010, 9:09am » | |
Going back to what Rikita said about the young children still up and about late into the evening.
That would be a big no-no in our family. Not only because the children need at least 10-12 hrs sleep for cell growth, but because a strict routine gives the parents time to relax after a hard days parenting as well!
I'm all for no rough exiting play prior to bedtime, and definitely a good half hour of chat lying in bed, about the days happenings with a bedtime story in conclusion. I found with mine, repetitiveness is what they liked. Even the same 'ol story night after night made them happy.
A friend of mine who had sleep problems and teeth grinding was put on a 10 night course of over-the-counter sleep enhancers by her doctor so that she could get back into a sleep pattern. I forgot to ever ask her if they worked.
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« Reply #42 on Dec 13, 2010, 9:36am » | |
Maybe you could ask her when she wakes up?
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« Reply #43 on Dec 13, 2010, 10:44am » | |
Wish I could but she is sleeping with the angels now. From that deep sleep there is no awakening.
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« Reply #44 on Dec 13, 2010, 1:04pm » | |
i think my issues were that i sometimes wake up at night - which is mainly happening since i am here, i suppose due to unfamiliar surroundings, though i always go right back to sleep - and that i have the computer and all in the bedroom, and don't keep fit regularly (but there was no option for doing that every now and then) and that i could imagine falling asleep at various situations... well i do fall asleep sometimes when i study vocabulary after school - and back when i had my exams and went to the library after work, i always fell asleep there...
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« Reply #46 on Dec 14, 2010, 5:23pm » | |
I didn't have a good night last night. My 11 year old grandson is with us and not at all well and I woke instantly at every sound worrying that he was OK.
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« Reply #47 on Dec 15, 2010, 2:38am » | |
tired today - wednesday and friday we do yoga with the kids before class so i had to get up earlier... though this is an hour later than the kids get up, and we went to bed about an hour later than them. so this is the amount of sleep they get every night...
well my parents weren't the "kids to bed at six p.m." type as some parents in germany are, but we definitely had to go to bed well before them, on the one hand because they also said we needed the sleep but also for the reason you said, tod, that they wanted some of the evening to themselves...
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« Reply #48 on Dec 15, 2010, 4:54am » | |
Sorry to hear the little fella is not too well Mick - I know the worry one feels when they are in your care.
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« Reply #49 on Dec 15, 2010, 12:29pm » | |
Thanks tod2. He had a better night last night but tends to talk in his sleep which woke us.
He's with us because my daughter has had a burst pipe at home which has affected his room but he has spent quite a lot of time with us since he was born so we're very used to it.
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« Reply #50 on Dec 17, 2010, 2:47pm » | |
I am in a new phase of waking up super early. This seems to combine with a result of going to bed earlier in the evening. Vicious circle -- I hope to get out of it this weekend because frankly, there isn't much to do at home at 5:00 a.m.
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« Reply #51 on Dec 17, 2010, 3:11pm » | |
Waking at that hour must be like waking up in the middle of the night  This is pure guessing now but I would imagine its pitch dark, freezing cold outside and not much on TV at that hour. No good for an early morning stroll around the block either. You certainly dont need a 'walking machine' or excercise bike in your apartment as you do so much walking already.
Let me see now.....you are 2 hours behind us so that means you are bright-eyed and bushytailed at 7am here.
I only wake up because my husband has to get up by 6am and so there is no sleeping beyond that time. At least I get a tray of tea brought to my bedside table! We then launch into animal feeding.
First bananas & apples for the birdfeeder, then seed and bread for the ground pecking birds, worms for the Drongos and Ibis's, and lastly chicken hearts for Woolly the Stork and some chicken pieces for the Kites. Whoa! who's jumping all over me biting my head?! Sebastian wants some fish.......
I'm so exhausted I sink back onto my pillows and wonder who will be online at AnyPort when I switch on my computer 
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« Reply #52 on Dec 17, 2010, 3:15pm » | |
had to get up early (for my standards) lately... maybe i get into a socially more acceptable rhythm with time. then again, i am expected to teach the parents of the family after dinner - which means, starting at about nine thirty or ten...
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« Reply #53 on Dec 21, 2010, 4:46pm » | |
I have always been a good sleeper, passing out within a couple minutes of hitting the pillow and sleeping till wake-up time, with or without an alarm. Until recently, when I have begun waking up most nights around midnight, and again around 4 a.m. (A side effect of menopause? Fortunately I'm not waking drenched in sweat, as happens to many women of a certain age.)
My natural proclivity is to be a night owl, though Mr. Kimby - with his need for 7 or more hours before getting up at 6 a.m. to go to work - long ago put me on a more normal schedule. We are in bed before 11 every night. When he is on call and gone overnight, I revert to my night owl tendencies, getting a "2nd wind" around midnight and playing on the computer till all hours, sometimes even pulling an "all nighter". Whereas that USED to cause me all sorts of problems the next day, especially in college when an all-nighter preceded important exams or papers being turned in, now I often sail through the next day on very little sleep without any obvious repercussions.
I did have one troubling bout of insomnia of several months duration. This followed our trip to Laos and Cambodia, during which I got quite ill (food poisoning?) and then we flew to Florida less than two weeks after returning from Asia, for 2 very busy weeks of getting the house ready for renters. Don't know what caused it, but I would lie awake for hours with an overactive mind I could not quiet. Tried everything: sleep aids, warm milk, etc. The insomnia finally went away, all by itself, with no explanation. Hope that never happens again.
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« Reply #54 on Dec 25, 2010, 12:26pm » | |
skyped with my mom yesterday. it was about 4 p.m. in germany. my brother was still in bed. whenever he doesn't have to go to work or school (he is in his practical year of his education now, but seems like most of his work practice he does for a friends' company, which means he rarely needs to go there but does his "work" at home on his computer...) he tends to stay up all night and sleep all day... but well, i had phases like that too...
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« Reply #55 on Jan 6, 2011, 3:49pm » | |
I keep having an urge to get up at around 3:45 a.m. (Then I go right back to sleep.) Maybe I should open a bakery?
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« Reply #56 on Jan 6, 2011, 4:42pm » | |
Can you bake a cherry pie, Kerouac2, Kerouac2? Can you bake a cherry pie, charming K2?
I usually sleep through the night unless I have to get up to pee, which I can do without waking all the way up. But last night at some wee hour, I was suddenly awake, thinking "hey -- I'm awake and I don't want to be!" I managed to go back to sleep some minutes later.
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« Reply #57 on Jan 6, 2011, 8:26pm » | |
Sounds more like you were thinking about cherry pie.
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« Reply #58 on Jan 6, 2011, 9:32pm » | |
I can truthfully say that I never wake up hungry, even in the morning.
But can you bake a cherry pie?
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« Reply #59 on Jan 7, 2011, 2:40pm » | |
I invariably wake up at 5.45am, 15 minutes before the alarm.
Seriously annoying..............
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