| Topic Summary |
| Posted by kerouac2 on Oct 21, 2011, 12:11pm |
| I'm going to make my second attempt at rendang this weekend if I can remember to buy some galangal... or if the supermarket is not sold out ---> they were last Sunday! |
| Posted by traveler63 on Oct 28, 2011, 6:15pm |
So, the best from U. S. are cheeseburger, fried chicken, ice cream. Wow!!! I don't even know what to say here.  Sorry to say that it really shows what a diverse palate the average American has. It would have been a little more believable if pizza was on the list. This list has no validity in my mind. Sorry
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| Posted by kerouac2 on Oct 28, 2011, 6:18pm |
| It's one of those situations where the majority is just plain wrong and one of the reasons that the wrong candidate often wins elections. |
| Posted by kimby on Oct 28, 2011, 8:19pm |
| Haven't read the list (I'm supposed to be "working" on the computer, but it's not going well), but the comments on goats remind be of the excellent meal of "cabrito" (baby goat) I had, in Spain I think. Also had excellent suckling pig, forget its name. Why do baby animals taste so good? |
| Posted by kerouac2 on Oct 28, 2011, 8:31pm |
Because you are cruel.  |
| Posted by rikita on Nov 15, 2011, 7:41am |
what surprised me a bit is hamburgers being named as german? i am pretty sure they are more typical for the US than here...
else - well most of my favourite foods (except maybe masala dosa) aren't on there... but that just means less people eating them = more for me. |
| Posted by lagatta on Nov 25, 2011, 11:23pm |
It is one of those problematic foods as hamburgers were probably made by German immigrants to the US - hey, people have often made mince, especially meatballs, from odds and ends of meat and tough pieces, the world over. And sausages!!!
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger German wikipedia, while acknowledging likely German emigrant origins, places the hamburger in US cooking.
As in these frikadeller/Frikadellen , common to several Northern European countries. They can be very good if carefully made (and can also be vegetarian) but a horror in some fastfood joints. (I'm thinking of the ghastly Dutch Febo chain ones...) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frikadeller |
| Posted by kerouac2 on Nov 25, 2011, 11:42pm |
Frikadelles from Febo -- I love them.  |
| Posted by fumobici on Nov 26, 2011, 12:14am |
| I saw hamburgers being avidly grilled at the Lindenhof in Zurich this Spring by the locals. Not sure where you get hamburger buns in CH though, didn't see them at the COOP. |
| Posted by hwinpp on Dec 2, 2011, 9:18am |
It depends a bit on where you are.
In the north and east I think we said Buletten. Frikadelle sounds a bit classier, that's all.
Really at the bottom of the ladder is Fleischkloepse. Fried pieces of minced meat. |
| Posted by rikita on Dec 4, 2011, 8:30pm |
well yeah here we say bouletten (i'd spell it like that because afaik that word comes from huguenot influences?), and yeah, that has been eaten here for a long time...
but i'd see bouletten by themselves as different than hamburgers... also since the picture they used is the american way to eat them, with buns and stuff... of course these days you can buy buns in most supermarkets (in germany at least, no idea about switzerland)... but people would still think of it as an american food... and would call it "hamburger", with english pronunciation (or as close as they can get)... |
| Posted by hwinpp on Dec 5, 2011, 4:22pm |
They pronounce Hamburger as close as they can to English? Really?
Even Colgate was pronounced German in Germany, something like Kolgate. Whereas is Austria they pronounce it same as in English, Colgate. |
| Posted by rikita on Dec 20, 2011, 9:46pm |
I suppose in fact it is mixed. some pronounce it German, some English... Some just say "Burger", then it is more likely pronounced English. To me, German pronounciation would too much like Hamburg, and I would think I am not the only one...
As for Colgate, yeah, I would pronounce it German, and I wouldn't even think that about it being an English name... |
| Posted by kerouac2 on Dec 20, 2011, 9:56pm |
| I think in all of our European countries it's the same -- certain categories of people will pronounce it as they see it written and others will show their foreign language knowledge by pronoucing it the "foreign" way. |
| Posted by hwinpp on Dec 21, 2011, 6:48am |
I knew Colgate as Colgate from a very early age but still pronounced it Kolgate in German. I also say Hamburger or Kaeseburger.
No, kidding, I don't say Kaeseburger  |
| Posted by kerouac2 on Dec 21, 2011, 9:50am |
| In northern Québec, I have actually seen "hambourgeois" on the menu instead of "hamburger." |
| Posted by imec on Dec 21, 2011, 2:16pm |
| I've seen "hamburguesa" in cheesy "Mexican" restaurants. |
| Posted by rikita on Dec 21, 2011, 9:14pm |
| i think hamburguesa is quite common in spanish speaking countries... hm, maybe i should start saying "käseburger" though. or "käsebürger" to make it yet a bit more german... |
| Posted by auntieannie on Dec 21, 2011, 10:03pm |
I've seen hamburger buns at Migros, Fumo!
But must agree with Riki that it is very much considered optional in Switzerland. |
| Posted by fumobici on Dec 22, 2011, 1:58am |
| I figured they must be available somewhere, I think I saw a Burger King in Winterthur. Or maybe I just hallucinated it. |
| Posted by auntieannie on Dec 22, 2011, 3:37pm |
| The American community is bigger in Geneva than in the Zurich region, I think. Geneva even has a massively popular 4th July event at the football (soccer) grounds every year. And the American embassy there take a large chunk of the lakeside. |
| Posted by mickthecactus on Dec 22, 2011, 3:53pm |
Dec 22, 2011, 3:37pm, auntieannie wrote:| The American community is bigger in Geneva than in the Zurich region, I think. Geneva even has a massively popular 4th July event at the football (soccer) grounds every year. And the American embassy there take a large chunk of the lakeside. |
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I hope they bring it back....... |
| Posted by auntieannie on Dec 22, 2011, 5:40pm |
| not really... they put higher/thicker walls all the time. and miradors... and and and... and no one is allowed to walk anywhere near it. or sail near it. |
| Posted by lagatta on Dec 31, 2011, 2:39pm |
I'm making a fake rendang with "Bamboe Indonesian instant spices" (not at all bad actually, and made in Indonesia - nothing in it but spices and a bit of oil to make the paste) and a big turkey thigh. I'm going to see if I can find some galangal - if not, some fresh regular ginger, but I add that towards the end anyway.
Is there anything typically served with this, other than rice, of course? |
| Posted by tod2 on Dec 31, 2011, 3:28pm |
lagatta - I would enjoy a nice sweet & sour fruit chutney with my rendang and/or a diced sambal of fresh onion, tomato, chillies, cucumber and maybe some herbs like parsley or corriander added.
Maybe a riata? and I always stick some poppadoms on the table just because I love them! |
| Posted by lagatta on Dec 31, 2011, 3:43pm |
Yes, all of those are lovely ideas! Obviously my vegetables (other than the onions) won't be as good as yours, since we are in the bleak midwinter, but those things are all edible in wintertime (well, the tomatoes are greenhouse ones, but not nearly as bad as such things were a couple of decades ago. I am definitely adding fresh parsley or coriander - that is one of the things I have to set out to get, though I'm not feeling great. At least it isn't very cold today (hovering around freezing point).
I will pick up some poppadoms!
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| Posted by kerouac2 on Dec 31, 2011, 4:38pm |
| Oh, I have several packages of poppadoms. I must go turn on my oven immediately, since that's all I can use to make them, on the grill setting. They certainly won't be a greasy as these potato chips I have been eating. |
| Posted by bixaorellana on Dec 31, 2011, 4:46pm |
Dec 21, 2011, 2:16pm, imec wrote:| I've seen "hamburguesa" in cheesy "Mexican" restaurants. |
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Actually, that's the correct word for hamburgers here. I've noticed that the er/ir/ur sound is extremely difficult for Spanish speakers. Hamburguesa is ahm booor gay sah |
| Posted by lagatta on Dec 31, 2011, 8:23pm |
I just grill poppadams too (watching them!!!!) If anyone has a microwave (I don't; I prefer to reheat foods in my countertop convection oven) then they puff up!
The package directions say to deep-fry them, although they already contain oil, but no way am I doing that when I feel dizzy from the lingering effects of flu or a bad cold - I don't want to set fire to our building!!!!
Hambourgeois is also the recommendation for "Hamburger" in Québec, for the same reason. Those are real words of long standing, but they usually refer to someone or something from Hamburg.
Those words also contain more vowels. Romance language speakers complain about too many consonants in English, and I've responded that I could teach them German, which would be worse (my German is not actually good enough to teach anyone). Remember that the er etc has both a schwa and an English r which sounds like a growling carnivore or someone with indigestion to many Latin language speakers.
My inauthentic rendang is very tasty indeed. Doubt it is remotely authentic Indonesian, though it does taste like one of the rijsttafel offerings in Amsterdam. It is very rich, not something to eat copiously.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rijsttafel |
| Posted by kerouac2 on Dec 31, 2011, 8:47pm |
| Today I went to the Chinese supermarket which had a great supply of fresh galangal, so I almost bought some. But then I told myself that I wouldn't be making rendang any time soon (but then again, who knows?). I really do intend to make rendang using an authentic recipe sooner or later. |
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