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Posted by hwinpp on Aug 17, 2011, 6:59am
The PM's wife might have something to say about that. She's the one who usually comes up with strange ideas when 'Cambodian culture and traditions' are at risk... ::)

Cherchez la femme, even here in Cambodia.
Posted by hwinpp on Aug 18, 2011, 4:30am
From the Blotter:

Monkey’s dog attack leads to crossbow kill

A 25-YEAR-OLD man who ate his hunting partner’s dog after it was killed in a monkey attack was shot dead by the canine’s owner with a crossbow last Tuesday. Police said the suspect and the victim were friends who were hunting together in Kratie’s Snuol district. It is understood the suspect shot his friend because he would not help save his dog from being killed in a monkey attack. The victim then took the dead dog home to eat. When the suspect saw this, he fired his crossbow at his friend killing him instantly. Police say the suspect confessed to the crime following his arrest.

:o :o :o

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2....7-aug-2011.html
Posted by kerouac2 on Aug 18, 2011, 5:01am
It seems like there should have been dead monkeys to eat instead. :-/
Posted by hwinpp on Aug 18, 2011, 7:21am
Right. Sometimes I think it's all hopeless...
Posted by bixaorellana on Aug 18, 2011, 9:36pm
Okay, sure it was really wrong for the guy to shoot his evil, rotten, selfish, opportunistic, dog-eating shit of a false friend, but I can identify with his impulse.
Posted by hwinpp on Aug 19, 2011, 2:27am
Yes,... but the amount of killings amongst friends and families is staggering here. Brothers who kill each other over a chicken, husbands who kill their wives over a liter of petrol, friends who kill each other because they looked at each other's girlfriends in a funny way.

Very friendly, helpful, kind and generous people but when they snap, they snap 100%.
Posted by bixaorellana on Aug 19, 2011, 4:18am
Good grief. Have you ever been in a situation there where you had to back-pedal furiously to calm the situation down because you accidentally offended someone?
Posted by hwinpp on Aug 19, 2011, 5:24am
No, I've never got to that point, and if I accidentally was, I was always in a car and they were on motorbikes ;D

Posted by hwinpp on Aug 27, 2011, 4:05am
Cambodia: NGOs vs. Government

Civil society in Cambodia is typically a very contentious issue. A few months ago, I attempted to dichotomize the diverging opinions on this subject by highlighting the urgent need for NGOs in the developing world whilst pointing out that many of these institutions are fatalities of their own benevolence.


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The problem, of course, is rooted in greed, an issue which transcends national borders and language barriers of all kinds. There are myriad NGOs which promote very worthy causes in the developing world, such as gender equality, poverty reduction, and securing access for the most at risk segment of the populous to fundamental human rights. But if there was not a profit to be made – for both individuals and organizations – what incentive is there to devote time and resources to such causes?


The latest accretion to this ambivalent topic comes from The New York Times’ Elizabeth Becker who, in a recent article, laments the new law under consideration by Phnom Penh designed to force NGOs operating in the country to adhere to stricter regulations and “win [the] approval” of the government. As she takes some not-so-subtle jabs at Cambodia’s ruling party, Becker bemoans the revenue to be lost and, as a member of the Board of Directors at Oxfam America, naturally claims that the poor will be the ones who suffer the most.

Her contention does have some merit. Cambodia would not be the first country in the world which uses the democratic process to curtail aspects of democracy. While such duplicitous schemes are usually manifested in referendums on term limits, or nationalistic laws designed to limit criticism from the free press or an opposition figure, it would also be highly doubtful that civil society would be permitted to retain some element of autonomy if the government had the final say on its projects. The very idea of a non-governmental organization is that it is non-governmental. As Virak Ou, the president of the Cambodian Center for Human Rights recently said, “Ultimately, the fear is that the law may be used as a legislative weapon to stifle grassroots democracy and freedom of expression and association in Cambodia, in violation of the Constitution and the principle of the rule of law.”

My argument, on the other hand, is that there is not nearly enough oversight on Cambodian civil society at present. High maintenance costs, and the salaries and benefits of the expatriate staff of Cambodia’s two thousand or so NGOs have not resulted in many benefits for the impoverished segment of the population that civil society is supposed to be helping, despite the prefaced munificence of the various institutions. Ken Silverstein’s brilliant analysis, which I quoted in my previous article, still rings true.


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After arriving to provide immediate relief, they gradually transform themselves into survival-focused grant-proposal-writing shops chasing dollars and holding PowerPoint-heavy workshops on “empowerment,” “governance,” “capacity-building.”


There appears to be a perverse “holier than thou” attitude expressed by international aid advocates such as Ms. Becker. I am beginning to suspect that they truly believe that without international assistance, the country will likely collapse. This is an idea postulated by Chris Minko at AFP as well, in which he claims there is a distorted narrative propagated by international aid groups: “After the Khmer Rouge, Cambodia was a disaster until international intervention rescued it in 1991. But evil people (the present government) undid all the good international work, so now the international community needs to intervene again.”

I previously argued that Cambodia would be better served with NGOs operating there, as opposed to without, despite the deficiencies of their altruistic objectives. I used the example of Myanmar to find an appropriate juxtaposition. The military junta there prohibits any type of outside influence; they even initially barred relief agencies from distributing humanitarian aid after the deadly Cyclone Nargis killed over 130,000 people in 2008. My opinion, however, may be changing. Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen is surely politicizing the issue to his benefit, despite his claims to the contrary. But more regulation for civil society is needed in Cambodia. That is my revised stance on the issue until further notice.


http://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2011/08/26/cambodia-ngos-vs-government/

It's worth having a look at the article on the blog page as there are links to the original articles by Elizabeth Becker and the rebuttal by Chris Minko.
Posted by hwinpp on Feb 8, 2012, 2:31am
Capital rotisserie ban has heads spinning

The familiar sight of cow torsos slowly turning on rotisseries in front of Phnom Penh’s restaurants and beer gardens will soon be a distant memory if government officials have their way.

As of yesterday, however, owners of outdoor dining establishments in the capital were continuing to grill cows in front of their shops despite a notification issued by the Council of Ministers last month that advised people not to grill cows publicly or openly at restaurants and markets.

The notification, signed on January 10 by Council of Ministers secretary of state Sim Vanna, states that grilling cows in public or in front of shops displayed a “cruel activity” which was in contravention of Buddhist principles of non-violence.

Staff at several restaurants near Wat Odnalom pagoda told the Post they had received information from local authorities about the notice and observed it for several days, before reinstating the cows outside due to concerns that it would hurt their business.

“It is complicated and it will affect our business,” said one staff member who asked not to be named.

“In less than a week, we lost a lot of guests. If they don’t see the cow grill, they don’t come. Grilled cow seems like a very popular food among our guests.”

The notification from the Council of Ministers was issued after a congress in Phnom Penh in December at which Buddhist monks requested that the government take action on the grilling of cows in public streets.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2....s-spinning.html

They've got some real problems now.

Not only does the government need to deal with illegal land grabs, insubordinate generals, the aftermath of last years floods and the coming elections but also with Buddhist sensitivities seeing cows being roasted on the spit at restaurants!

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Posted by bixaorellana on Feb 8, 2012, 3:57am
No! No! Not the cow spits!
Posted by hwinpp on Feb 8, 2012, 4:14am
Just shows typical Buddhist hypocrisy. Eating animals and the act of killing them. And in this case just seeing them being prepared for eating. :P
Posted by cheerypeabrain on Feb 8, 2012, 5:31pm
Itdoes seem like a diversion tactic by the government.....'OOOH LOOK OVER THERE!' whilst we squirrel away these documents.....
Posted by hwinpp on Feb 9, 2012, 2:12am
They issued this new directive quite some time ago when a group of monks complained. They didn't complain when the main area was still a notorious prison and they could hear the shouts and cries of the prisoners in their pagodas at night.

Go to any market here and you'll see that all the beef is sold by Muslims. A pity Muslims don't touch pork or they'd let them do that slaughtering as well.
Posted by kerouac2 on Feb 9, 2012, 9:58am
But part of Buddhism says that it is our destiny to suffer and we should accept it. Why should cows get off easy?
Posted by hwinpp on Feb 14, 2012, 9:28am
Or fish?

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Posted by kerouac2 on Feb 15, 2012, 6:14am
I think the monks would be a lot happier in a secluded retreat in the jungle rather than having to face the nasty reality of the big city.
Posted by hwinpp on Feb 16, 2012, 3:30am
I get aggressive when I see ... monks...

Ok, here's how Valentine's Day was celebrated here:

PM urges youths to love all year round

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Fleeting Valentine’s Day trysts in the confines of cheap guesthouses are not the Cambodian way, and young couples should love every day – provided they make a life-long commitment to their partners, Prime Minister Hun Sen said yesterday.

Speaking during a National Road 6 ceremony, the premier joined the chorus of officials urging youths to avoid guesthouses on Valentine’s Day.

“It is not our culture,” he said.

“In Cambodia, we don’t have only February 14 as a day for loving, we have 365 days.”

His plea came amid police suggestions they would deploy officers to guesthouses to prevent “anarchy”.

At Preap Sor guesthouse in Phnom Penh, Valentine’s Day arrived without the rush of check-ins some had expected and it was business as usual when the Post spoke to employee Hout Heng Nin.

“I think the couples will not come to stay in a guesthouse after the news about police patrols,” he said.

Sim Piseth, police chief in Daun Penh’s Phsar Thmey II commune, said his officers would patrol guesthouses last night and had monitored outside schools for people selling roses in “banned” areas.

“We’re afraid people will buy roses for their partners and argue at night,” he said.

Chhum Srey Nouch, 18, a student at a Phnom Penh high school, said Valentine’s Day had not been as big this year because of police warnings and teachers scheduling compulsory exams.

“I am also afraid police will arrest me when I go out with my school uniform,” Chhum Srey Nouch said.

Another grade 12 student, who did not want to be named, told the Post that Valentine’s Day had been harder for young lovers this year.

He doubted, however, that police and government warnings would have deterred youths from doing what they wanted.

“Students would not have gone to a guesthouse, because they would have been afraid of being arrested, but they would have gone elsewhere,” he said.

Meak Chhor Reaksmey, director of Santhor Mok high school in Phnom Penh, said truancy had been markedly lower than on previous Valentine’s Days because no roses had been allowed to be sold close to the school and teachers had enforced a compulsory exam.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2....year-round.html
Posted by kerouac2 on Feb 16, 2012, 5:09am
Anarchy in the guesthouses! What will they think of next?
Posted by hwinpp on Feb 16, 2012, 7:15am
I laughed out loud at that one myself. Sounds like the 50s in the West.
Posted by bixaorellana on Feb 17, 2012, 12:56am
Kinda makes you want to do it in the road.
Posted by hwinpp on Mar 3, 2012, 5:27am
Bavet governor implicated

Bavet town governor Chhouk Bandith is the man who gunned down three unarmed women at a protest last week, Interior Minister Sar Kheng alleged yesterday, saying an official complaint had been filed against him.

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Outside an unrelated conference, the minister told reporters the governor would be arrested imminently in relation to the shootings at the Kaoway Sports Ltd shoe factory in Svay Rieng province’s Bavet town during a February 19 protest of about 6,000 people.

“Related to the arrest of a suspect or not, it is not the duty of the Ministry of Interior, it is the duty of the court, but it will not take longer than one week because we have to do it clearly,” he said.

Allegations have steadily surfaced against the high-profile suspect since he told the Post last Tuesday he was aware of accusations against him which he categorically denied.

Anonymous police officials have previously told the Post that Chhouk Bandith became enraged and accidentally shot the three women while attempting to fire warning shots after a protester threw a rock at his head.

He had reportedly come to mediate the protest, which had turned violent, with workers hurling rocks at the factory and lighting tyres as they demanded basic benefits.

Rights groups have expressed concern that the slow reaction of authorities to the shooting may have given the suspect ample time to flee the country from Bavet town, near the Vietnamese border.

When contacted yesterday, Chhouk Bandith simply said he had a “meeting with Vietnam” before declining to comment further.

Men Vibol, deputy governor of Svay Rieng, said he did not know where Chhouk Bandith was, but that he had not attended provincial hall meetings since the shooting.

“I was surprised when I got that news. I don’t how why he did this to his villagers. In name, he is the governor of Bavet town, which means that he is the father of villagers who live there,” he said.

Hing Bun Chea, chief Svay Rieng provincial prosecutor, confirmed he had received a complaint against Chhouk Bandith, which he said he was now checking.

Though Chhouk Bandith’s whereabouts remain a mystery, Moeun Tola, head of the labour program and the Community Legal Education Centre, alleged yesterday that the politician had been in Phnom Penh three days ago attempting to buy the silence of a victim.

He said the family of 21-year-old Buot Chinda – the most seriously injured victim, who was shot through the chest – were approached at Calmette hospital by a man they recognised as the Bavet town governor.

“One question he asked to the family, he asked how much compensation do you need? He did not say that he was the shooter, but it was an interesting question that he asked how much compensation do you need?” he said.

Buot Chinda’s brother Sam Sinat said seven Bavet police officials also visited his family on Wednesday and offered his family “a gift from Deputy Prime Minister Men Sam An” of 2 million riel, about US$500, in return for not filing a complaint.

“The money that they gave to me, I am wondering if they don’t want me to file a complaint against them, [but] even though I got that money, I still filed a complaint to find justice for my sister,” he said.

Moeun Tola said the family had told him the officials also convinced them to thumbprint a document, which they could not read and later discovered was an agreement not to press charges.

“We don’t understand why the group from city hall approached the victim and asked her to thumbprint the agreement not to sue – it is a crime, it cannot be conciliated or mediated,” he said.

He also questioned whether charges would be laid against police officers that eyewitnesses had seen assisting the suspect to escape after he shot the victims in front of thousands of protesters outside a factory equipped with security cameras.

Two other women, 18-year-old Keo Neth and 23-year-old Nuth Sakhorn, were also shot in an incident that has potentially serious consequences for one of Cambodia’s biggest industries – the manufacturing of footwear and garments for international brands.

Before the shooting outside Kaoway Sports, which supplies sportswear giant PUMA, workers were lobbying for a $10 monthly travel allowance and 50 cent daily food subsidy, which the company has since agreed to.

Maeve Galvin, a consultant at the International Labour Organisation’s Better Factories Cambodia, said the shooting could have “frightening” implications for an industry that employs 350,000 women who indirectly support about 10 per cent of the population.

“We’re one of the organisations trying to ensure that the Cambodian garment industry keeps a good name, and in reality, an incident like this is quite damaging to the industry,” she said.

Buyers were “really” concerned and looking at collaborative action they could take, including discussions with the Ministry of Commerce, she said, adding that it was crucial a full, transparent investigation was conducted.

In a statement released late yesterday, PUMA said it was trying to get official government confirmation that a complaint had been filed against Chhouk Bandith, emphasizing it was in their own interests to rapidly establish what had happened.

Ken Loo, secretary-general of the Garment Manufactures Association of Cambodia, welcomed the identification of the shooter, which he said cleared staff at Kaoway – a GMAC member – of any wrongdoing.

“[But] what about the violence? We also need the government to take action against the workers or whoever was behind the mob activity that destroyed the property of Kaoway factory,” he said, adding this was also a concern of buyers.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2....implicated.html
Posted by bixaorellana on Mar 3, 2012, 6:03am
Ken Loo, secretary-general of the Garment Manufactures Association of Cambodia, welcomed the identification of the shooter, which he said cleared staff at Kaoway – a GMAC member – of any wrongdoing.

“[But] what about the violence? We also need the government to take action against the workers or whoever was behind the mob activity that destroyed the property of Kaoway factory,” he said, adding this was also a concern of buyers.


Mr. Compassion!
Posted by hwinpp on Mar 3, 2012, 2:57pm
Yep, what a fucking idiot that one is. Every time there's a mass fainting he says the factories need stronger staff.
Posted by hwinpp on Mar 12, 2012, 3:13am
Shooting suspect a governor no more

Triple-shooting suspect Chhouk Bandith has been sacked as Bavet town governor to prevent him from interfering in court proceedings, the Svay Rieng deputy provincial governor said yesterday.

The high-profile suspect is accused of shooting three garment factory workers at a protest outside the Kaoway Sports Ltd shoe factory in Svay Rieng’s Manhattan special economic zone last month.

Svay Rieng deputy governor Men Vibol said Chhouk Bandith’s governorship was terminated by a sub-decree signed by Prime Minister Hun Sen on March 6, a day after he was issued a summons by the provincial court for questioning next Friday.

“The reason that the governor was fired from his position is because they make a way for the court to take action following the court procedure,” he said, suggesting that court officials might be unwilling to take action because of his position.

The sub-decree, also signed by Minister of Interior Sar Kheng, orders that Chhouk Bandith be given an unspecified position in the Svay Rieng provincial administration, he added.

Since the shooting on February 20, Bavet town hall officials have reportedly made repeated visits to the three victims, offering them sums ranging from US$500 to $1,000 in exchange for agreeing not to press charges against Chhouk Bandith.

Sok Sam Oeun, executive director of the Cambodian Defenders Project, said the move would strip Bandith of his influence over local police, government and court officials.

In terms of government, if they move or put him into a position without any power or put him in a suspended position, he still has the same rank, but he doesn’t have any power,” he said.

If there was evidence afterward to suggest Chhouk Bandith was still wielding influence that amounted to judicial interference, the victims of the shootings or NGOs could recommend the case be moved to another court through the judiciary, he added.

Svay Rieng provincial chief prosecutor Hing Bun Chea said the sub-decree had nothing to do with the court, which had been given a free reign to conduct its work since the beginning of the investigation.

Chhouk Bandith has been identified by Interior Minister Sar Kheng as the sole suspect in the shootings, which took place in front of about 6,000 protesters and police outside a supplier for sportswear
giant PUMA.

But the Svay Rieng court has declined to issue an arrest warrant, citing a lack of faith in the police reports.

The slow progress of the case has drawn sharp criticism of the police and courts from rights groups that have said a suspect should have been arrested at the scene and expressed fears that Chhouk Bandith has now been given ample warning and time to escape.

Men Vibol said he did not know whether Chhouk Bandith would attend the swearing in of his former deputy, Neb Saron, as Bavet town governor on Friday, because he had not seen him.

PUMA said they will issue a joint brand statement today and Larry Kao, managing director the Manhattan SEZ, said it was not his place to comment on the sacking.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/index.php/2....or-no-more.html
Posted by kerouac2 on Mar 12, 2012, 5:56am
Looks like things might be improving little by little. It's really hard to change the ways that the rich and powerful have always operated.
Posted by hwinpp on Mar 23, 2012, 8:30am
For anyone interested, here's a nice example of anti- Vietnamese propaganda ;D

Youn Soldier Lectures to Youn Students

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 Vietnamese Communist Police lectured to Vietnamese Students Who Protested against China
Story forwarded by Info Asia


After China claimed its ownership over the Spratly and Paracel islands, there were hundreds of Vietnamese youths and students in both Hanoi and Sai Gon cities protest against China for invading Spratly and Paracel islands which Vietnamese people claim that those islands are the Vietnamese ancestral islands.

Vietnamese Communist (VC) government usually use forces to suppress the protesters, but in this case, the VC government just used polices to surround the protesters to prevent the violent may happen.

Below is a dialog between a VC police who was trying to lecture to a Vietnamese student protester (see picture) in Hanoi about why the VC government does not stand up to against China regarding to the invasion of those islands.

Student: We want to send a message first to China: that the Vietnamese people are brave and undaunted.

Police: Our government, especially our party leaders, understands your concern. At this time, we should not protest against China. We need to build a good relationship with China, so our former enemy, the US will not use Human Rights and Democracy strategies to interfere with our internal issues.

Student: (angrily screaming) I know we need a good relationship with China, but we cannot stand that China invades our ancestral islands. Our government must stand up to protect our land. We must unite to defend our lands.

Police: (he was angry now and pushed the student to step back) I know we need to protect our land. If our government does not allow you all to protest against China now, do you think you can organize a protest like this? You should be smart and understand it…

Student: (keep screaming) Spratly and Paracel islands are Vietnamese ancestral islands. China must return it back to Vietnam.

Police: (try to calm himself) Listen brother; I know you are young and our government doesn’t allow you to learn the real history of Champa in the central of Vietnam and Khmer history in south of Vietnam in our public school, so you don’t know that the center of Vietnam used to belong to Champa and the South of Vietnam used to belong to Cambodia. Our Vietnamese ancestral lands are just the part of North Vietnam. (He started pulling out a map and showed it to the student) Look at this map, you can see that the Paracel and Spratly islands are actually not our ancestral islands because those islands are closer to the central of Vietnam and the south of Vietnam. Thus, you cannot say that those islands are our Vietnamese ancestral islands. This is why our former Prime Minister, Pham Van Dong, gave those two islands to China on September 14, 1958 because he knew that those islands are not our ancestral islands.

Student: I don’t agree with you. Our ancestor fought to get those lands and islands, so we must be responsible to protect it. Our government already gave to China some of our lands and seas near the border of our country and China.

Police: Don’t worry brother, the up-north lands that our government gave to China are the useless lands. We cannot do any farming with it because they are just mountainous areas and our Vietnamese people are not living there. We just have some of the Indigenous peoples live there, so it is OK to give to China. We don’t need those lands.

You all are too young to understand our government policies. You just see our lands lost to China, but do you see how many kilometers of lands we took from Cambodia and Laos? We don’t just take lands from Laos and Cambodia; we even now control their current governments. China is a big country, but they don’t have that capability, only our great government can do it in the 21th century. I don’t think the US can do that either. Be proud about that brother.

In Laos now, most of the leaders of that country are our Vietnamese or Laotians whose wife are our Vietnamese women. We control their government, military, and economy. Actually, on the world map, Laos is a country, but it already belongs to Vietnam.

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Youn Soldier Lectures to Youn Students

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Khmer Empire

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 Vietnamese Communist Police lectured to Vietnamese Students Who Protested against China
Story forwarded by Info Asia

After China claimed its ownership over the Spratly and Paracel islands, there were hundreds of Vietnamese youths and students in both Hanoi and Sai Gon cities protest against China for invading Spratly and Paracel islands which Vietnamese people claim that those islands are the Vietnamese ancestral islands.

Vietnamese Communist (VC) government usually use forces to suppress the protesters, but in this case, the VC government just used polices to surround the protesters to prevent the violent may happen.

Below is a dialog between a VC police who was trying to lecture to a Vietnamese student protester (see picture) in Hanoi about why the VC government does not stand up to against China regarding to the invasion of those islands.

Student: We want to send a message first to China: that the Vietnamese people are brave and undaunted.

Police: Our government, especially our party leaders, understands your concern. At this time, we should not protest against China. We need to build a good relationship with China, so our former enemy, the US will not use Human Rights and Democracy strategies to interfere with our internal issues.

Student: (angrily screaming) I know we need a good relationship with China, but we cannot stand that China invades our ancestral islands. Our government must stand up to protect our land. We must unite to defend our lands.

Police: (he was angry now and pushed the student to step back) I know we need to protect our land. If our government does not allow you all to protest against China now, do you think you can organize a protest like this? You should be smart and understand it…

Student: (keep screaming) Spratly and Paracel islands are Vietnamese ancestral islands. China must return it back to Vietnam.

Police: (try to calm himself) Listen brother; I know you are young and our government doesn’t allow you to learn the real history of Champa in the central of Vietnam and Khmer history in south of Vietnam in our public school, so you don’t know that the center of Vietnam used to belong to Champa and the South of Vietnam used to belong to Cambodia. Our Vietnamese ancestral lands are just the part of North Vietnam. (He started pulling out a map and showed it to the student) Look at this map, you can see that the Paracel and Spratly islands are actually not our ancestral islands because those islands are closer to the central of Vietnam and the south of Vietnam. Thus, you cannot say that those islands are our Vietnamese ancestral islands. This is why our former Prime Minister, Pham Van Dong, gave those two islands to China on September 14, 1958 because he knew that those islands are not our ancestral islands.

Student: I don’t agree with you. Our ancestor fought to get those lands and islands, so we must be responsible to protect it. Our government already gave to China some of our lands and seas near the border of our country and China.

Police: Don’t worry brother, the up-north lands that our government gave to China are the useless lands. We cannot do any farming with it because they are just mountainous areas and our Vietnamese people are not living there. We just have some of the Indigenous peoples live there, so it is OK to give to China. We don’t need those lands.

You all are too young to understand our government policies. You just see our lands lost to China, but do you see how many kilometers of lands we took from Cambodia and Laos? We don’t just take lands from Laos and Cambodia; we even now control their current governments. China is a big country, but they don’t have that capability, only our great government can do it in the 21th century. I don’t think the US can do that either. Be proud about that brother.

In Laos now, most of the leaders of that country are our Vietnamese or Laotians whose wife are our Vietnamese women. We control their government, military, and economy. Actually, on the world map, Laos is a country, but it already belongs to Vietnam.

In Cambodia, the current Cambodia government is running by a party that is our puppet. We say A they never bravely to say B, they are basically just like our slave in a different form. Some of the leaders, especially the head of the Cambodian police and the staffs in the interior department, are our Vietnamese who disguised to be Khmer. We control their economy and we even control the selling tickets to the tourist entering their ancestral temple, Angkor Wat. We get almost what we need from Cambodia, so Cambodia is basically another Champa Kingdom soon.

Student: I admitted that we are controlling Laos and Cambodia now, but our population is increasing very fast, we need to protect our lands so our people can have place to live.

Police: Take it easy brother, Cambodia still has lots of lands and their population is still very small. We can send couple millions of our people to Cambodia next year, so they can help Cambodia People Party to vote in the election of 2008. After election 2008, our Vietnamese people will be more than the real population of the Khmer in Cambodia. This way, it doesn’t matter what Cambodia tries to do, we still use our Vietnamese people living in Cambodia to vote for our benefits, and of course, we will always win. Then, we can start using our Vietnamization strategies just like we did to Cham people in the central, the Khmer in South, the Laotian, to make Cambodia to be provinces of Vietnam.

I just want to let you know more that our goal to take over Cambodia and Laos is already done, we start implementing our goal to take over Thailand next year. We have embedded our people in Thailand since the 1930s. Our great Uncle Ho used to ordain to be a Buddhist monk in Thailand while he was acting as the leader of the Indochina Communist Party.

We have our Vietnamese people living in Thailand for years already. If you followed the news, the Thai government allowed our people to become the Thai citizen couple years ago. Those people will use their “Power of Vote” and with assistant of our government to influent the Thai government. One day soon, we will target Thailand from both Cambodia and Laos directions because those two countries are already our provinces.

Student: (quietly and seem to be convinced by the police) I believed what you said because that is the truth, but our Vietnamese must protect what we already took from someone else because our ancestor had used many efforts, tactics, and strategies to take over those lands for us, and we must protect it. We are Vietnamese. We are patriots. We love our country; we are not Cambodian or Laotian who are willing to sell their country for their own personal benefits. We don’t scare of China. We are ready to die for our country. China colonized us for 1000 years, but they could not assimilate us. We just colonized Champa for couple hundred years; we can eliminate Champa Kingdom from the world map. So, don’t think that China is strong. We must stand up to fight them to get our land back.

Police: (angrily yell to the student) Shut up, Stop screaming. Our government even can imprison the Religious leaders like Thich Quang Do, Father Ly, and the Khmer Monks, you all are just students, watch out. Don’t make me mad, I will send you to prison anytime.

http://sokheounpang.wordpress.com/youn-soldier-lecture-with-youn-students/

I bet it's fabricated from beginning to end. So crude!
Posted by kerouac2 on Mar 23, 2012, 8:51pm
Indeed, it is not extremely refined as propaganda. But true believers will always truly believe anything you tell them.

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