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« Reply #630 on Jun 9, 2012, 5:02pm »
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Jun 9, 2012, 3:01pm, kimby wrote:
This is a very long but comprehensive accounting of how things are with my parents, put together by my sister who has done a wonderful job of making it possible for them to stay in their home.

I've made it a spoiler so it doesn't take up so much space. Reading it makes me both happy and sad.

[spoiler=Care and Feeding of our Parents]Subject: "Care and Feeding" of our Parents

A couple of notes:
On the days that Meals on Wheels are scheduled to come, if you decide to take Mom and Dad out and will not be at the house between the hours of 11:00 am and 1:00 pm (they deliver at different times each day), you MUST call the Senior Center and either cancel the meal or arrange to pick up the meal. They get very concerned if they try to deliver a scheduled meal and no one is home!

Mom and Dad love to go out to eat. In (home village), their favorite is DeBroux's on the corner of Jefferson and Main. Dad loves their 15-bean soup. Usually they have a bartender, so they like to have an Old Fashioned with dinner (but they will suck it down before their meal arrives, so order a diet coke or sprite for them to have with their meal!). They also like the Firefly for lunch -- it's a really nice coffee shop on Main Street. They only serve lunch, though, and have a limited menu. It's also a nice place for you to go for lunch if you want a break while they are eating their Meals on Wheels! I'm taking them to Maria's Pizza tonight. They also like the Chinese Buffet on the North side of town (between the Walgreen's and the Burger King) -- I left a coupon on the counter for this. And, they like Subtown Deli on the South Side of town. I have found that you need to coach them through what they want (make sure you confirm what sides, etc., that they want) and then that you place the order for them. Dad is very soft-spoken and can't get out his order easily, making it frustrating for all involved, so it's just easier if you make sure what he wants (I usually give him a few suggestions that I know he'll like) and then place his order for him. If you are in (nearby big city), they love the Outback Steakhouse (address & directions provided). If you plan to go there, it would be really nice to call (their old friend) S****K******, who lives a few blocks away from there, and see if he can join you.

Dad has a hard time getting seat belts on, so it's easier to just help him into the car, fasten his seat belt and close the door. Mom can do her own usually as long as the end is easily found on the seat (and as long as Nellie isn't sitting on it!)

MAKE SURE IF YOU TAKE NELLIE ANYWHERE IN THE CAR THAT THERE IS A HEDGEHOG TOY IN THE CAR!!!!! I'LL LEAVE ONE IN THE SUBARU. THIS IS VERY VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT. IF NO HEDGEHOG, SHE WILL CHEW UP ANYTHING IN SITE -- INCLUDING THE BRAND NEW TWICE-REPLACED SEAT BELT!!!! SHE WILL ALSO BE VERY UPSET FOR THE WHOLE TIME SHE IS IN THE CAR. Nellie needs help getting in and out of the car. She can get her front paws up and in, but needs a little butt-nudge. It's good to help her out, otherwise she may jump from the seat to the ground, hitting it pretty hard and sometimes falling. We do not need any broken bones on her! I'm convinced that Nellie is 100% deaf, so don't even try calling her, etc. There are leashes on the kitchen counter. Be sure to bring one with you to the cabin.

As far as RX, D*** will have the pill trays ready for us to take to the cabin. They are in the cabinet above where Mom keeps her purse. Be sure to bring them and the eyedrop bottles, plus Nellie's pills (aspirin and Glucosamine) and Pill Pockets, to the cabin. They get their morning pills with breakfast and their evening pills with supper. Nellie gets 1/2 aspirin and a Glucosamine (each in a Pill Pocket molded around the pill) in the morning. We can stop the eye salve next Monday, so you won't need to worry about that. At nighttime, either give them each their eyedrops, or put the bottles on their pillows so they remember to do it.

I ordered Tangee lipstick for Mom from the Vermont Country Store (she only has 1 tube left -- it was in her purse, I moved it to her drawer in the bathroom). It should come about the time Kimby is there. Her hair curler at the cabin is broken (I think I threw it away, but not sure). The one at home works. She looks so much nicer when she has her hair curled (but she doesn't do it) and she loves having her hair played with, so curl away!

There is clean cabin laundry in R***'s room at home that Kimby and Mr. Kimby should take to the cabin (towels, etc.) C**** is also doing some cabin laundry which may or may not be ready before then.

Things Dad obsesses about:
Electric Razors and Chargers. He has many. There are 2 razors that seem to work - the cords/chargers are in the drawer in the bathroom below where he puts his razors. He doesn't seem to be getting a good shave, though. Maybe Mr. Kimby can suggest a better razor or see if his need sharpening or replacing.
Glasses. They really frustrate him - it seems like they never are "aimed" right for either close or long distance, even though I have had them adjusted at the clinic several times. They do get bent when he falls (I just had them adjusted yesterday at the Optometrist's office). He also loses them a lot. Usually they can be found on his headboard (either at home or cabin), on the kitchen table, in a pocket of what he recently wore, or in one of the plastic bins next to the couch. Whenever you find something for Dad you get big "hero points" and he thinks you are wonderful and have excellent "finder" skills.
Hearing Aid. Look in the same places. Sometimes he needs help putting it in. There are batteries on the kitchen table at home and in a paper bag on Mom's chair in a little blue case at the cabin in their bedroom.
"When is everyone coming?" No matter which daughter is there, he'll be wondering when the other one/ones are coming and will assume that they are coming today unless you remind him otherwise.
"When are we going to Otis Farm?" Remind him that I'm taking them there in July. Haven't heard anything about a reunion this year, but if there is one, maybe Kimby can come in for it and take them there (it is usually the weekend before Labor Day). He didn't mention the Rube-Goldberg elevator on this visit (yeah!), so don't bring it up. If he brings it up, remind him that it's probably not feasible because of building codes, etc.
"Where is the dipstick that I special-ordered for the Skid Loader?" It is in the right place on the Skid Loader, I put it there when it came.
"There are big bills that need to be paid in the mail." No there aren't. I pay their bills every month and everything is fine with their finances. If you want to go through the mail, fine, but don't worry about anything in it or feel the need to pay anything -- it will only mess me up. Their taxes, business taxes, bills, etc. are all in order. I'll be back on July 9th and will pay everything then.
"No one ever told me I couldn't drive." That's right, but he shouldn't drive and he knows it. And I really don't think he wants to.

Things Mom obsesses about:
"What day of the week is it?" I (and their helpers) always cross out the past days on both their calendar and the Senior Center Meals on Wheels calendar so they know what day it is, plus the day-of-the-week clock is above the couch and does work, if they think to look at it
"What is Dad saying?" He is hard to understand and does ramble, and it takes a bit of thinking to figure out what he is talking about. Mom has no patience with this and will interupt mid-sentence, causing Dad to completely lose his train of thought. We're not going to change this behavior, though.
"Where's Nellie?" She doesn't go far and is usually in one of three places -- the chair in the corner of the living room, the bedroom next to Mom's side, or at the side of the couch.
Nellie Barking. Nellie barks whenever there is food being eaten. The citronella collar kind of works for her. Maybe R***and T** can get her better trained with it. KIMBY - BE SURE to bring the collar and some citronella and the extra battery to the cabin so R*** can try to train Nellie with it. All are in a plastic bin on the table at home.

Things Nellie obsesses about:
Food
Food
More Food
Being outside when she is inside
Being inside when she is outside
Having a hedgehog to chew on in the car
Making sure car windows are thoroughly licked
Oh, and food!


Hope this helps!
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Am I not fortunate to have such a wonderful sister keeping a handle on things?



Jun 9, 2012, 5:01pm, kerouac2 wrote:
Your sister is great, Kimby.


Yes, I may not have appreciated her when we were growing up, but I sure do NOW!
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« Reply #631 on Jun 12, 2012, 8:21pm »
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Tonight was one of those evenings when I am wondering if my mother is going to suddenly die. :-/

No condition requiring major medical care but just a sudden shift of vitality from 'normal' to 'extremely diminished'. Fatigue, flu... I don't know. I helped the orderlies change her diaper and put her in bed.

"Are you hungry?"

"Yes."

I gave her some chocolate cake and she gobbled it and then she more or less fell asleep. I'll see how it goes tomorrow. I hope the phone doesn't ring.
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« Reply #632 on Jun 12, 2012, 8:51pm »
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:-/ Sorry and sad to read that your mom seems to be failing Kerouac. Hopefully tomorrow is a better day for her.
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« Reply #633 on Jun 12, 2012, 9:10pm »
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I am pretty confident that she will be back to "normal" tomorrow. She is very strong.
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« Reply #634 on Jun 13, 2012, 3:23am »
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Fingers crossed, K2, for your mum.
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« Reply #635 on Jun 13, 2012, 9:25am »
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Let us know how she's doing Kerouac.
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« Reply #636 on Jun 13, 2012, 10:39am »
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The fact that the nursing home has not called me would indicate that nothing is out of the ordinary.
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« Reply #637 on Jun 13, 2012, 5:45pm »
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False alarm -- I found my mother quite well resucitated today with the only trace of her 'condition' being tired red eyes. I think she just had a little temporary bug.

I bought her some expensive cherries (since the weather is so awful, the price has not dropped and 9.95€/kg is shocking to me -- the normal price should be about 4.50€/kg). They are her favourite fruit and tomorrow when I visit, I will be picking up cherry pits in every corner of the floor.
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« Reply #638 on Jun 13, 2012, 9:22pm »
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If she is feeling even better tomorrow, you will be picking up those pits with a smile on your face. :) Good news today!
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« Reply #639 on Jun 26, 2012, 3:48pm »
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Just returned from a week-long stay with my parents. They are fading startlingly fast, considering how long into their 80's they managed to act and look relatively young. Dad celebrated his 90th birthday on Sunday, though celebrate may not be the right word, although fireworks and cake were involved.

It's too depressing to write about the specifics of their decline in detail, but Dad is anticipating the time "when things get real bad", and saying things like "I won't be staying around real long after things get real bad" meaning he would choose to end it all rather than endure the indignities and discomforts of decrepitude.

Our job, as his kids, is to try to keep them safe and comfortable in their familiar surroundings as long as we can, and to maintain the illusion that things are OK even though all the wonderful things Dad built - treehouse, lighthouse, boat docks, even the boat - are falling into decay faster than he is. :'(
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« Reply #640 on Jun 26, 2012, 5:15pm »
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That's quite sad, but since I have been through this before, I know that it is something that must be faced as inevitable.
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« Reply #641 on Jun 27, 2012, 5:43pm »
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My mother watches me so intensely. She rolls around the room and into the hallway, but at any time I am in her line of sight, she stares at me. If I close my eyes, she will immediately rap on the table or call out or tap me if I am in reach, and then she will point at herself. She'll do the same thing if I appear too interested in the television or in any visitor who starts talking to me ("You are here for me alone and you must look at me at all times.").

I find this both heartwarming (she knows who I am and she wants to be with me) and creepy (she wants to drag me down with her and stop me from living).

It is a quandry of sorts.
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« Reply #642 on Aug 2, 2012, 4:26pm »
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I've been wondering if your routine visits to your mother have changed in times since leaving the office?
Is it any easier being able to visit earlier during the day if you so choose, or does she still expect you later in the day?
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So far I have kept pretty much the same routine as before, except that I have taken her to the hairdresser during the week now instead of on Saturday. My mother rarely "expects" to see me, but her face still lights up the moment I appear, which is what keeps me coming back.

One reason that I keep going at the same time Monday through Friday is because my presence is useful for the last diaper change and putting the nightgown on before dinner. My mother can be a tough customer on certain days (even with me) and the staff are extremely appreciative of my presence to keep things running smoothly. You would be amazed at how my mother can positively weld herself to the wheelchair when she doesn't want to do something, and even I can't pry her out against her will. But I can convince her to do what I am asking within 3 minutes, which is a magic power that the staff do not have.
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« Reply #644 on Aug 3, 2012, 2:07am »
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I am so frustrated for my father-in-law... The tests he needs before the surgeon will operate have been resecheduled from August to October... We are having a difficult time accepting that this is probably necessary, someone younger probably needs surgery as well. Papa turned 82 this year.
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I am so frustrated for my father-in-law... The tests he needs before the surgeon will operate have been resecheduled from August to October... We are having a difficult time accepting that this is probably necessary, someone younger probably needs surgery as well. Papa turned 82 this year.


I'm so sorry, mich, and can understand how disconcerting this must be for you and your family.
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« Reply #646 on Aug 6, 2012, 1:39am »
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This weekend I spent several hours shopping for new clothes for my mother. I ended up with 5 pairs of slacks, 15 tops, 7 nighties and 10 pairs of socks. So far. Tomorrow when I go visit her, I'll triage through her closet and dresser and get rid of stuff. Everything was getting tired looking. Besides, Mum has the money so we might as well spend it on her.

This will surely bring on a major psychotic tantrum from my dreaded aunt who is, to use Stephen King's most apt and admirable phrase "crazier than a shithouse rat". The woman used to be the bane of my existence until she stopped talking to me about a year and a half ago. What bliss!
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« Reply #647 on Aug 6, 2012, 6:47am »
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My sister is the one who deals with buying my mother clothes when she decides she needs some new tops or pants. But when she goes to look through the closet saying, "but I brought you three new tops a couple of months ago", she discovers that our mother has given the new stuff away and kept some old things.
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« Reply #648 on Aug 6, 2012, 2:50pm »
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Since my mother no longer dresses herself, that is not a problem for me, and I have noticed that the staff generally seems pleased when they find a new item to put on her. And yet my mother still has a few tops that are at least 20 years old, and I am happy to still see them on her from time to time, because I know what favourites of hers they were.

I have heard much family controversy about buying clothes in not just nursing homes but also normal retirement homes, where the residents are still autonomous. Many children appear to believe that every item bought is an intolerable reduction of their upcoming inheritance and "who cares what they are wearing?" I hope these children burn in hell.
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« Reply #649 on Aug 6, 2012, 3:04pm »
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My mother doesn't dress herself either and hasn't for at least 6 years. Like you, k2, I've also noticed the staff likes to see new clothes for Mum. I also make a point of buying very colourful socks so they always know which are hers.

There should be a special place in hell for those people. I would reduce my inheritance to zero if I could have my mother back.
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« Reply #650 on Aug 6, 2012, 4:49pm »
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I care very much what my mother wears. I make sure she feels good about her hair and clothes.
When in England this May I bought 3 new cardigans to delight her upon my return.
Getting messy in front seems to be something the elderly can't avoid. I make sure my mum has enough of everything to be able to wash things at her convenience.
One thing I can't seem to stop, is her changing her own bed linen every week even though she has the maid to do that for her. She then goes to hang it on the line after the machine wash.
Is this the same mum I have to help out of the car and walk across the street holding her arm?? Ma, what are you up to ::)
-91 seems the new 'middle age'!
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My first idea is that there might be spots on the sheets that she thinks that others should not see. Or it might just be a quirk of old age...
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« Reply #652 on Aug 6, 2012, 7:57pm »
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It is perhaps a difficult habit to break, she has been doing it every week for more than 70 years and she probably feels good to still be doing it each week. Amazing that at 91 she can still do this! Awesome. :)

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Perhaps, she's just hanging sheets "because she can."
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« Reply #654 on Aug 10, 2012, 7:27am »
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I started reading this thread some time ago, but find it very hard to contribute. I am an ageing parent and my wife is now in a nursing home after multiple problems over many years. To cut a long story short, she gradually developed dementia. I believe it started when she had a heart bypass operation in 1995, she was reasonable until about 5 years ago but after that I was totally in charge. It all culminated in a fall in which she broke her pelvis last April, after 7 weeks in hospital she then went to the home. I was told "she is in the last year of life" but she has overcome so many difficulties that I am not sure. Some days she is very low, in fact she had a TIA a couple of weeks ago, but she bounces back. However it is obvious that she is gradually slipping.

It has been a relief to read other peoples problems. I also have to say that I had not realised how much of a strain it had been looking after her at home, she had been confined to a wheelchair if we went outand could only get about at home by supporting herself on furniture. Now she is away it is a great relief. I try to go and see her every other day, although she is not always aware.

Many many thanks for this forum, it takes me to places, and shows me things which I was never aware of.
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I realised as soon as I had posted above that I had missed the title of the thread. My wife and I are both 80 and I have been in the habit of taking 5 day trips to Paris regularly. To cover for these my youngest son would come and stay here to look after his mother. All went well until last year, when I returned from Paris and he picked me up from the station. He was greatly relieved to see me having had a very wearing time cleaning up. We then decided that for my future holidays she would have to go into temporary care. This proved very difficult to arrange, but fortuitously the events described above occurred. I had to cancel the live in carer that I had organised for the trip I took in May.

Thanks for bearing with me.
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« Reply #656 on Aug 10, 2012, 2:44pm »
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Your story is completely appropriate for this thread, mossie, since in this case caring for your wife is the same as having to care for a parent with the same condition.

My father was under increasing stress with my mother for at least 2 or 3 years before he finally died, because he partially understood what was going on but didn't want to believe it. And since my parents always stayed as far from the medical profession as possible, they wouldn't even look for help there. They preferred to lie about the situation rather than admit there was any sort of problem. In any case, I always noticed that having to face a doctor brought out my mother's survival instincts and she could turn her brain back on just long enough to tell whatever lies would get her out of danger.

However, the final blow came in 2004, the year that 4 relatively minor hurricanes hit Florida. Minor perhaps, but my parents had no electricity for more than a week in the sweltering heat. The telephone still worked, though, so I was able to call them every day and check up on them. I was not happy with what I heard over the phone and rushed to visit as soon as I could. They had not even thrown away the things that had stayed in the freezer during the power outage, and it looked like they hadn't changed clothes in at least two weeks.

My visit revived them at bit, but it was really all downhill on a steep slope after that. I am still amazed that I was able to keep my mother at my place in Paris for 54 weeks while I waited for approval to even enter a public nursing home in Paris without having ever been a Parisian resident, and then there was the waiting list once they finally gave in -- and I worked all that time although I had to rush home in the middle of the day more than once.

So nobody should feel guilty about not being able to face the situation singlehanded. There are professionals for this, and they do a good job. I just wish it didn't cost so much. :-/
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Thanks Kerouac. You had a tougher job than I did, but it can become extremely stressful, more than people who have not experienced these things perhaps realize. My health both mental and physical, suffered more than I realized. It was only when the burden was partially lifted that one knows.
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Gosh Mossie, 80! You are a wonder to me ;) I thought my mother was the only old-timer well into her 80's who could master the computer at that age. She had to finally pack it all in just 2 years ago as the world got more sophisticated and more expensive.
Now at the tender age of 91 she at least can operate a cellphone, drive to the grocery store and hairdresser, and cook her own meals.
This is all done very slowly so don't envisage an old granny doing a Speedy Gonzales!

Your photos are very good too ;D
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Ah....but Tod2, I was taught to operate a computor (note correct English spelling ::) ) in 1950 ;D ;D
It was of course a laptop about 8 inches by 5. It had 2 knobs on one side which drove a rolled cloth strip under a window at the front, one could then plot the wind on this window or work it out by swivelling a compass rose around the window.
On the back was a circular slide rule used for calculating speed and distance against time.
I'm a poor describer of an essential piece of aerial navigation gubbins. But they were attempting to teach me how not to lose His Majesty's expensive aeroplanes, and fighting a loosing battle
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