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Re: sleep and lack of sleep
« Reply #60 on Jan 7, 2011, 4:42pm »		[Quote]

Jan 7, 2011, 2:40pm, mickthecactus wrote:
I invariably wake up at 5.45am, 15 minutes before the alarm.

Seriously annoying..............


Dude, set your alarm for 6:15 ;D
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« Reply #61 on Jan 8, 2011, 12:11pm »		[Quote]
i slept a lot this night. and morning. but then, i was not well. now i feel this strange mixture of tired and not sleepy.
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« Reply #62 on Jan 10, 2011, 5:04pm »		[Quote]

Jan 6, 2011, 4:42pm, bixaorellana wrote:
I usually sleep through the night unless I have to get up to pee, which I can do without waking all the way up. But last night at some wee hour, I was suddenly awake, thinking "hey -- I'm awake and I don't want to be!"


I think I just realized why they call them the "wee hours", bixa!

I find that it's very important to avoid lights when you want to get up to pee without waking up fully. Any light striking your retina is said to have a deleterious effect on your ability to get back to sleep.
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« Reply #63 on Jan 11, 2011, 3:34pm »		[Quote]
oh, but if you live in a house where all the cockroaches come out in the dark? i hate going to the toilet during power cuts, only with a torch... so when there's light, i will turn on the light.

and sometimes when i have to take the torch, i will point it right at mr. r. when i get back, just to annoy him - but just when i know he is really just pretending to be asleep...
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« Reply #64 on Jan 11, 2011, 3:41pm »		[Quote]
If you can wrap red cellophane around your "torch", it won't impact your night vision (a trick we naturalists use on night hikes, as animals are not disturbed by red light either). Perhaps you can put a red light bulb in the fixture that lights your path to the toilet?
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« Reply #65 on Jan 11, 2011, 3:48pm »		[Quote]
but then the cockroaches won't flee from the light either, will they?

however, i am living in someone elses house, so i can't do that anyway. will consider it when back home... there are no cockroaches at home either... (at least one good point about having to return home so soon)
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Re: sleep and lack of sleep
« Reply #66 on Jan 11, 2011, 3:53pm »		[Quote]

Jan 7, 2011, 4:42pm, fumobici wrote:

Jan 7, 2011, 2:40pm, mickthecactus wrote:
I invariably wake up at 5.45am, 15 minutes before the alarm.

Seriously annoying..............


Dude, set your alarm for 6:15 ;D


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« Reply #67 on Jan 11, 2011, 4:14pm »		[Quote]
As regards your light bulb advice Kimby, have you visited Amsterdam by any chance?
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« Reply #68 on Jan 11, 2011, 4:43pm »		[Quote]

Jan 11, 2011, 3:48pm, rikita wrote:
but then the cockroaches won't flee from the light either, will they?

No but you'll be able to see where to put your feet.
(Put on shoes and you can put your feet right ON the roaches with abandon!)
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« Reply #69 on Jan 11, 2011, 8:45pm »		[Quote]
Rikita, just wondering -- has being in India changed your body's schedule at all, apart from the constraints of the local job? I mean do you go to bed or wake up earlier or later than before due to the climate and general atmosphere?
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« Reply #70 on Jan 12, 2011, 12:13pm »		[Quote]
no, not really... i am more of an evening person, mr. r. is more of a morning person, and since we are together we usually try to go to sleep somewhere between 11 and 12 (if we watch tv before, he usually falls asleep during that though). and i wake up by myself only around 8 or 9 when there's no alarm, he wakes up at 6 or 7. he wakes up more easily from the family noises though...

i am kind of more tired lately because it is so warm, but then, i n germany i find other reasons for being tired...
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« Reply #71 on Jan 19, 2011, 2:35pm »		[Quote]
Got 73% with the test.

Bixabella, the weight you were trying to input was in stones and pounds... or in kilos Hence the neck remark as I am sure you are not 13 stone?
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« Reply #72 on Oct 13, 2011, 5:30pm »		[Quote]
I "pulled an all-nighter" on Monday. Something I haven't done since I was in college studying for exams. (And occasionally on a 36-hour travel day where I doze on the oversea flight if I can.)

Mr. Kimby was on call and sleeping at the hospital, so no one to point out that it was "bedtime". Besides frittering posting and perusing threads on Any Port, I also put the time to good use clearing clutter off my desk. I had planned to get to bed by 2, but was on a roll and didn't notice the clock til 4:30. At that point it would have been harder to sleep for a couple hours then to just stay up. I expected to be really burned out, but hardly noticed the loss of sleep. Slept really well the next night, too. Better than usual.

So does one's physiology change as they age so they don't need sleep as much as when they are younger? Anyone else pull all-nighters lately?
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« Reply #73 on Oct 13, 2011, 6:17pm »		[Quote]
I have always read that you elderly people do not require as much sleep.

I have not missed a complete night's sleep ever -- even coming back from the disco at 5:00, I would still sleep for at least an hour. My only short nights in recent times have all entailed at least 3 hours sleep, so I don't know how I would react to a totally sleepless night.
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« Reply #74 on Oct 13, 2011, 6:21pm »		[Quote]
I did a 24 hr shift last Saturday and am on call tomorrow night after my day shift...I don't think that it's good for your health and you don't really catch up with your sleep afterwards.

My boss asked me today if I'd consider going onto permenant night shifts...3 x 12 hour shifts....I don't think so. Not only would I earn less but I'd be constantly tired and bad tempered....oh....no change there then....
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« Reply #75 on Oct 14, 2011, 5:07pm »		[Quote]
why are night shifts paid less? i thought usually they are paid more, to entice people to work at night?
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« Reply #76 on Oct 14, 2011, 5:22pm »		[Quote]
In France, there is a premium for work between 21:00 and 07:00.
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« Reply #77 on Oct 15, 2011, 4:25pm »		[Quote]
A shift would be paid differently to on-call...The on-call service is generally one person in the department dealing with all the emergency work. If it was a shft there would (in theory) be more than one person working because you are entitled to an (unpaid) lunch break. The night shift rate is 'time + 30%' .

atm I work my normal hours during the week, and do on-call as an extra...so I get my basic wages plus a large payment for the oncall. If I went onto nights it would just be my normal hours moved to another time slot...the 30% addition would not recompense me for the loss of the on-call payments. (I do 3-4 sessions of on-call a month)....

The managers are trying to make us work a shift system but there is so much resistance by people who at present don't do the on-call (which is voluntary) and who don't want to work weekends or nights...so they seem to be patching it all together offering different things to different people in an effort to keep going without taking on any more staff. The oncall budget is large as the payments are good...but they have to be because the work is not only difficult but can also be exhausting.

There are 3 hospitals in our trust and each one needs an oncall haematologist every night and every weekend...there are only about 23 of us who can do it, so it's getting quite difficult to fill the rotas every month. With some people working 6-7 sessions + as well as their normal hours we have many people well over the EEC working time directive regulations.
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« Reply #78 on Nov 17, 2011, 5:53pm »		[Quote]
Is it only in England that doctors hand out infinitesmal doses (10mg) of the anti-depressant, Citalopram, rather than give proper sleeping pills? What is a person to do? ::)
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« Reply #79 on Nov 17, 2011, 6:21pm »		[Quote]
I went to bed early two nights in a row because I was tired. The first night I actually managed to sleep about 8 hours for perhaps the first time this year. However, this morning I was up at around 5 a.m.
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« Reply #80 on Nov 18, 2011, 7:39pm »		[Quote]
I no longer fight against waking up early....I sleep when I'm tired. My own work schedule affords me this later in life luxury. I could never work a "straight job" again,I am sure.
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« Reply #81 on Nov 18, 2011, 9:09pm »		[Quote]
After three nights of collapsing into bed early due to both a severe cold and work stress, I am hoping that things will become more normal this weekend.
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« Reply #82 on Nov 19, 2011, 6:08pm »		[Quote]
I would love to be able to put my head down and sleep anywhere. Just like that.
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« Reply #83 on Nov 20, 2011, 11:29am »		[Quote]
I would too Spindrift. My husband seems to be able to do it so effortlessly while I toss and turn until at a certain point I just get up and stop fighting it.
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« Reply #84 on Nov 20, 2011, 8:33pm »		[Quote]
hm, i am getting used to sleeping longer in the mornings already. i suppose i should start setting an alarm, just so i won't end up lying awake in the evenings...
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« Reply #85 on Nov 20, 2011, 9:09pm »		[Quote]
When you have a night job, you're lucky if you can sleep from 8 to noon which is just 4 hours. Maybe a 2 hour nap late in the afternoon.
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« Reply #86 on Nov 21, 2011, 11:56am »		[Quote]
can't you sleep from 8 to late afternoon? when i studied all night, that's what i used to do... though i must admit never seeing the sun got to me after a while, so then i changed my sleeping pattern...
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« Reply #87 on Nov 21, 2011, 7:43pm »		[Quote]
Riki, setting an alarm could be a good idea. and maybe I should think about it, too. my sleeping pattern is all over the place at the moment. many days, I have the luxury of sleeping late in the morning if I wish.
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« Reply #88 on Nov 21, 2011, 8:20pm »		[Quote]
I used to work a three week shift pattern, 1st week nights, the next week afternoons and finally mornings. Never could get used to it and I was either fast asleep when I shouldn't be or wide awake when I didn't want to be.
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« Reply #89 on Nov 21, 2011, 8:42pm »		[Quote]
I've been getting up too early lately due to respiratory distress linked to my heavy cold. I can breathe fine when I am vertical and suffocate when I am horizontal. So I've been getting up around 5:30 and am not enjoying it much.
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