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Re: Gout
« Reply #30 on May 26, 2011, 2:33pm »		[Quote]
I seem to have a small dose of it in my knee too.
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Re: Gout
« Reply #31 on May 26, 2011, 3:06pm »		[Quote]
Mick, the pills that are upsetting your stomach - are they anti-inflams? I sometimes used to take Cataflam or Coxflam because they are easier on the stomach than Diclohexal (Diclofenac sodium).
Also, when do you take them? Before, after or during a meal?
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Re: Gout
« Reply #32 on May 26, 2011, 3:23pm »		[Quote]
tod2, if I was on Diclofenac I'd be in serious trouble...

Mine are Arthrotec and always taken with food. It's the morning one that gives me problems, lunchtime and evening aren't too much of a problem.

More water as you say.
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« Reply #33 on May 26, 2011, 3:58pm »		[Quote]
Serious trouble eh?..... Here we buy them over the counter (generic) or originals.
There is one tablet I bought OTC in Paris which works like a dream for an irritating cough and I can't get them here - called Neocodion. Man are they good!
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Re: Gout
« Reply #34 on May 26, 2011, 4:53pm »		[Quote]
Hmmm... let me see what I was taking. The trade names are different.

Allopurinol (Zyloric)

Colchimax (colchicine, tiemonium methylsulfate, opium powder :P )
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« Reply #35 on May 27, 2011, 2:10pm »		[Quote]
Ok Kerouac, I was curious about your medication - my pharmacist said Allopurinol is equivalent to the Puricos I'm taking. Just another drug company. It is a long treatment and must be taken over months and months.
The Colchimax however is for ACUTE gout and when perscribed you have to stop taking the other one so it can work best and is short-term. It is an anti-inflammatory so that's probably what has upset your stomach.
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« Reply #36 on May 27, 2011, 3:35pm »		[Quote]
Tod, it's not so bad that you can't get Néocodion at home. It's based on codeine and is one of those drugs people get addicted to.
See this article: http://www.observation-pharmacodependance.org/spip.php?article46
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« Reply #37 on May 27, 2011, 8:01pm »		[Quote]
Yes, tod, I went to see my doctor today and he said he would be keeping me on the Allopurinol. He also prescribed another box of the Cochimax in case of a major outbreak.

I told him that I was not at all in pain, but it was disturbing to have one big toe about 15% bigger than the other one. The toe had gone completely back to normal size when I was taking the Colchimax and only brought itself to my attention when I stopped.

It never upset my stomach, but it is pretty much GUARANTEED to cause diarrhea.

My main problem is that I don't drink enough. In hot weather, I can drink huge amounts of water or any other liquid, but at other times I just don't. When I was in pain, I would remember "oh, I'm supposed be drinking a lot of water" and I would do so. Otherwise, I just don't. For example, today since I had an extremely busy schedule and had to skip lunch and hold a meeting at the airport and then take the train back and go to the doctor, followed by the nursing home, I did not have even one sip of water from 8:30 am until 7:15 pm -- and I wasn't even thirsty when I remembered to drink.

It's a problem.
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« Reply #38 on May 28, 2011, 1:40pm »		[Quote]
bjd - I am very surprised that I got it with no problem in Paris! Especially after having to beg a pharmacist to let me have some anti-inflammatory tablets for my very swollen and painful knee...they agreed to give me the lowest dose so of course I had to double it up.
Here we also get a pain killer called Myprodol which I think also contains codeine - well it sure blocks up the bowels if taken too often! Nowadays the chemist will only give you 10 at a time.
Thanks for that info!

Kerouac - same here. Unless I fill a 2 litre bottle and force myself to drink it all by the end of the day.....only tea or coffee.
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« Reply #39 on May 31, 2011, 9:44am »		[Quote]
tea or coffee doesn't count as much as water. If you drink these white/with sugar, you have to count only a third of the liquid consumed as liquid. also tea/coffee inhibit the absorption of several mineral and vitamins and should be avoided at meal times. (sorry, I am beginning to sound like a proper bore!)
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Re: Gout
« Reply #40 on May 31, 2011, 10:53am »		[Quote]
We don't mind a bit, nurseannie.
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Re: Gout
« Reply #41 on Jun 1, 2011, 12:25pm »		[Quote]
I am no nurse, Kerouac. :)
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Re: Gout
« Reply #42 on Jun 2, 2011, 8:50am »		[Quote]
My bout of gout in my knee was a real sod but has just about gone now. Really crippled me last weekend.
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Re: Gout
« Reply #43 on Jun 2, 2011, 4:47pm »		[Quote]

May 31, 2011, 9:44am, auntieannie wrote:
tea or coffee doesn't count as much as water. If you drink these white/with sugar, you have to count only a third of the liquid consumed as liquid. also tea/coffee inhibit the absorption of several mineral and vitamins and should be avoided at meal times. (sorry, I am beginning to sound like a proper bore!)

Not a bore, & it's important that everyone know that. I know so many people -- well, women, specifically -- who won't drink water because they don't want to pee. Sheesh! And yes, people will argue that their coffee or tea "counts".

Water can even "wash away" a minor bladder infection, just to give an idea of its efficacy.

I can't back this up scientifically, but I really think that if people who are worried about cholesterol would cut butter, cream, and bacon out of their diets, they'd be able to stop worrying about some of the other stuff. Think about it: meat and cheese and cream and butter and bacon. Yes, I know that bacon is technically meat, but it has very little nutritional value. Also, I'm not saying they should never, ever eat these things, just stop keeping butter, cream, & bacon in the house on a regular basis. Use olive oil instead of butter, ix-nay on constant cream sauces, & let bacon be a very occasional treat. Surely that's a less painful way to live than to avoid every single thing that might contain cholesterol.

"bout of gout", Mick? ;D
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Re: Gout
« Reply #44 on Jun 2, 2011, 5:35pm »		[Quote]
My cholesterol levels are admirable. That's why my body had to find another way to punish me.
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« Reply #45 on Jun 2, 2011, 6:52pm »		[Quote]
Well, then, drink that water!

One way to "learn" to drink water is to keep it always handy. Put a bottle on your desk & sip (or glug) from it every time you notice it. Doing that will get you to recognize your thirst & want to do something about it. If you carry a satchel or something, be sure to keep a water bottle in it. Put a glass of water next to the computer & tv at home.

Another reason this is so important is that many older people (people older than you & in great shape otherwise) don't feel thirsty & can get seriously dehydrated. So, train yourself to want water. This is for everyone, not just the gout-ridden.

Gad, I've hogged the soapbox in this thread twice today. :-[

Sorry -- just don't want to see y'all suffering!
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Re: Gout
« Reply #46 on Jun 3, 2011, 5:56pm »		[Quote]
i am having a sip of water now. thanks for reminding me.
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« Reply #47 on Jun 3, 2011, 6:05pm »		[Quote]
Most women don't get gout. But they have plenty of other icky diseases to compensate. :-/
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« Reply #48 on Jun 4, 2011, 1:17pm »		[Quote]
i have no icky diseases so far. hope it stays that way.
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« Reply #49 on Jun 22, 2011, 6:24pm »		[Quote]
Jeez, here it is again. Thank god I still have enough medicine left.
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Re: Gout
« Reply #50 on Jun 23, 2011, 3:23pm »		[Quote]
You're not alone.....my knee keeps playing up so I am taking anti-inflams at least twice a week.
Don't know if its gout though....
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« Reply #51 on Jun 18, 2012, 9:42am »		[Quote]
I was reading the paper yesterday and it had a pretty extensive article about how gout used to be reserved mostly for men, but it is now transforming itself into a woman's disease. Apparently a lot of dieting methods as well as the use of diuretics causes a buildup of uric acid. Just drinking a lot of water does not protect you if you pee it out too fast. It would appear that it is healthier to have a certain amount of water stockpiled inside you -- which is exactly what most women do not want.
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« Reply #52 on Jun 18, 2012, 8:52pm »		[Quote]
my dad got gout now. he is not happy about it.
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« Reply #53 on Jun 19, 2012, 11:55pm »		[Quote]
Bixa, I agree, and keep a water bottle at my desk all day, but I either work at home or at conferences.

There is NOWHERE to pee for many, many women. I've risked shame and a citation for dropping my drawers (I was wearing a skirt, and there was nothing to see) as there was simply nowhere to pee.
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Re: Gout
« Reply #54 on Jun 20, 2012, 1:54am »		[Quote]
I don't drink nearly as much water as I should, I have to force myself, and do keep a water bottle handy.
I have been in many a situation particularly in my line of work gardening where I've had to get real creative in order to pee.
On my cycling route there are no places to pee either and I have had to go on the levee and hide.
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Re: Gout
« Reply #55 on Sept 28, 2012, 4:35pm »		[Quote]
I have been taking Allopurinol for a number of years. I have congestive heart failure and take a number of medications. The Allopurinol has really helped the problem. I also drink about 2 liters of water a day.
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« Reply #56 on Sept 28, 2012, 4:44pm »		[Quote]
Yes, Allopurinol is what was prescribed to me as well.
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