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Posted by onlymark on Jun 7, 2010, 12:13pm
Also, a 'shift' is an undergarment known to the French as a chemise. Undesirable women, fallen women, for ease of access, never wore one. This led to a characterisation of lazy good-for-nothings as being shiftless.
Posted by onlymark on Jun 7, 2010, 12:15pm
Also, a shift is a period of time spent at work, e.g. a night shift. People who are lazy often had no job to go to, thus were 'shiftless'.
Posted by bixaorellana on Jun 7, 2010, 3:33pm
;D #121

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What are the Ps and Qs we are supposed to be minding?
Posted by onlymark on Jun 7, 2010, 3:42pm
Possibly those you used when you printed in the old days when they looked similar but all the letters had to be reversed on the plate. Thus is was easy to confuse the two, hence you had to be careful.
Posted by bixaorellana on Jun 7, 2010, 4:37pm
Oh ~~ of course, that could be it! Great explanation.
Posted by hwinpp on Jun 8, 2010, 9:25am
But why would undesirable women need ease of access?
Posted by onlymark on Jun 8, 2010, 10:32am
Ok, I'll fall for that one - prostitutes probably don't want to have to waste time getting all their kit off.
Posted by bixaorellana on Jun 8, 2010, 5:35pm
True. They need to shift into position quickly. They could lose customers if they were too shiftless. On the other hand, they could lose customers by refusing to be shift-less.
Posted by dahuffy on Jul 9, 2010, 10:07pm

Oct 3, 2009, 5:44pm, patricklondon wrote:

Quote:
"I'm sweating cobs!"


Yes, that's still pretty current. My old OED cites various uses of "cob" to mean anything large, or anything like a lump or something rounded (including testicles). So I suppose it's an index of excess either in quantity or size.

A vulgar comparator might be "peeing hot conkers" to indicate excessive nerves or anxiety!


"I'm dryer than a cob"
Posted by dahuffy on Jul 9, 2010, 10:22pm

Nov 25, 2009, 7:52pm, kimby wrote:
Need a list manager here!
1. Don't get your panties in a twist = don't get your knickers in a knot, to some people

Don't get your panties in a wad.

"Until Hell freezes over" not freezers
Posted by dahuffy on Jul 9, 2010, 10:39pm
The way the crow flys
That's the way the cookie crumbles
The apple dosen't fall far from the tree
Let sleeping dogs lie
For crying out loud!
For crimeny sakes
Horse play
Up shit creek without a paddle
Well,I'll be go to hell
Looney as a toon
Dryer than a popcorn fart (my mom's favorite)
Holy balls ( my gramma's favorite)
Posted by kimby on Jul 12, 2010, 2:14pm

Jul 9, 2010, 10:07pm, dahuffy wrote:

Oct 3, 2009, 5:44pm, patricklondon wrote:


Yes, that's still pretty current. My old OED cites various uses of "cob" to mean anything large, or anything like a lump or something rounded (including testicles). So I suppose it's an index of excess either in quantity or size.


"I'm dryer than a cob"


Any connection here to "cob" as in spider?
Posted by kerouac2 on Jul 12, 2010, 2:42pm

Quote:
Dryer than a popcorn fart (my mom's favorite)



My father used to say "as hot as a popcorn fart". Not being a popcorn fart expert, I am confused by the mysterious powers of this particular form of flatulence.


Quote:
Holy balls ( my gramma's favorite)


Could this be a variation of "Hell's bells!" ? Just as mysterious to me in any case.
Posted by kimby on Jul 12, 2010, 3:45pm
Or is "hell's bells" a polite euphemism for Holy Balls!

Like "darn" and "shucks" and "fricken"
Posted by bixaorellana on Aug 22, 2010, 11:19pm
What is shucks a euphemism for?

Has this one been asked already: more than one way to skin a cat ?-?-?
Posted by cristina on Aug 23, 2010, 6:16am
While trying to think of the "shucks" question, I started thinking about all of the words my mother used when she was trying to avoid swearing.

Criminey comes to mind. Where did that come from? (Clearly I do not know how to spell it, but she used it an awful lot. :-[ )

I will sleep on "shucks." :)
Posted by bixaorellana on Aug 23, 2010, 6:23am
But they're so noisy and scratchy!
Posted by kerouac2 on Aug 23, 2010, 12:17pm
People used to say Jiminy Cricket to avoid saying Jesus Christ. Perhaps Criminy is a fusion of the expression.
Posted by mickthecactus on Aug 23, 2010, 3:20pm
Rather like "for rice cakes" instead of "for Christ's sakes".
Posted by mickthecactus on Aug 23, 2010, 3:26pm
My Dad used to say "stand up, stand up for Jesus. Sit down, sit down for Christ's sake".

My grandchildren think it hilarious................ ;D
Posted by kerouac2 on Aug 28, 2010, 8:23pm
On another site, there is a fascinating discussion about a "clip joint" regarding which someone was a victim. I think we know the use of joint, but what is the clip?
Posted by cristina on Aug 28, 2010, 11:44pm
I know! I know! ;D

Clip is an old slang word meaning to be cheated. If someone has been clipped, they have usually been the victim of a scam.
Posted by kimby on Sept 13, 2010, 1:43pm
I think "shucks" and "shavings" are both used in place of another word that starts with sh...
Posted by kerouac2 on Sept 13, 2010, 2:40pm
I never heard "shavings" but I have heard "sugar".
Posted by bixaorellana on Sept 13, 2010, 2:51pm
I didn't know that about clip joint. I think clip for cheating may come from a time when coinage was not standard, so bits of metal could be clipped off, reducing the value of the coin. Don't know where I got this "information", nor whether it's accurate.

Shavings? Maybe that word is particular to your family, Kimby.
Posted by kerouac2 on Sept 15, 2010, 11:36am
"Heavens to Betsy!"
Posted by patricklondon on Sept 15, 2010, 11:48am

Quote:
I never heard "shavings" but I have heard "sugar".


Oh, so have I. Many years ago, when I had just started on the near-compulsory penpal relationship with a French boy, my mother was getting increasingly frustrated with the hinges on the drop-down door on the gas oven - she would rest the Sunday roast on it to baste, and not surprisingly it started to droop off the horizontal. It wasn't at all uncommon for our Sunday pre-lunch to be interrupted with a loud crash and cries of "Oh sh....." from my mother. Eventually the time came for my penpal and I to do exchange trips, so my mother tried to moderate her language, and we got used to hearing the crash followed by "Oh sh-......ugar".

On the day Jean-Laurent arrived, mum had prepared a full roast dinner, to keep up our country's culinary reputation. As we stiltedly coaxed along his conversational English, there came a loud crash from the kitchen, followed by"Oh sugaring sh*tbags!!!"
Posted by kerouac2 on Sept 15, 2010, 12:00pm
Sugar is on this list.
Posted by bixaorellana on Sept 15, 2010, 2:30pm

Sept 15, 2010, 11:48am, patricklondon wrote:
"Oh sugaring sh*tbags!!!"

;D Brilliant!
Posted by kerouac2 on Sept 15, 2010, 2:40pm
Maybe it was time to buy a new oven.

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