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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2012 17:30:30 GMT
Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I am certainly interested in the future of this country of 80 million people. And since what happens in Mexico influences what happens in the United States (more or fewer immigrants, more or fewer drug problems, etc.), I don't think that Americans should turn a blind eye to these either. I thought that this video report from Al Jazeera is a good introduction to the basic problems for us laymen. I have read a number of state-by-state accounts of the situation, indicating that there are extreme variations in security and corruption depending on where you live, but such things are meaningless to people who just see a blob on the map to the south of the United States... Can't wait to find out the results, even though they appear to be quite predictable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2012 18:43:16 GMT
I kept wondering if, when, and where to post a thread on this. There have been 2 major articles I read very recently, one in The New Yorker, and one in a recent NY Times magazine. Both lengthy pieces. Enlightening on many levels. But, I wouldn't know where to begin in discussing it there are so many, many aspects of the whole wretched situation. All coming down to greed and power in the hands of a very few people and affecting so many hundreds of thousands, millions I suppose, others.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 5:02:12 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 2, 2012 5:20:59 GMT
I am so distressed I can hardly breathe.
Well, it ain't over until the fat lady sings, but it looks like the nasty little David Duke look-alike will get in by hook or by crook.
I actually have a whole picture report I made today, but am too demoralized to put it up at the moment.
Kerouac, the PRI is evil incarnate. They do not think they have made any mistakes to learn from.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 2, 2012 5:34:40 GMT
Just watched the Al Jazeera report, which I found quite accurate. Some of the phraseology leads me to think they really did their homework with real Mexicans instead of making up their minds before writing the text.
The fear & violence on the border is almost unimaginable in the part of the country where I live, knock wood. Today I talked with a guy from Durango who lives & works here. He's homesick, but said that he was kidnapped twice when he lived in his home state & that such a thing wasn't all that rare.
It's true that work is underpaid here, but I've heard that punk excuse for not working ever since I've lived here. It's particularly disgusting in a country where people generally work so hard. And someone is working so that disaffected lad can turn up his nose at work that doesn't pay enough.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 5:44:52 GMT
The BBC article says unemployment is only 4.5%. Is that true? (underpaid or not....)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 16:36:18 GMT
I am so distressed I can hardly breathe. Well, it ain't over until the fat lady sings, but it looks like the nasty little David Duke look-alike will get in by hook or by crook. I actually have a whole picture report I made today, but am too demoralized to put it up at the moment. Kerouac, the PRI is evil incarnate. They do not think they have made any mistakes to learn from. I went and looked again after reading this and wow...............eisch......does he ever. ugh... shudder, shudder..........
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 2, 2012 16:57:54 GMT
It may be true, depending on how the unemployed are counted. If you become unemployed in many countries, but have an ad hoc sideline in cutting yards, you would probably say yes if asked if you're unemployed. Here, people work at so many similar, often self-created jobs, where they'll never receive benefits, but in the strictest sense can be counted as employed. Interesting question -- I'll ask around to see if I can get a better answer. And, for all those benighted souls who persist in referring to the New York Times as a "liberal" newspaper, just read the pussy-footing, white-washed to the point of borderline lying swill that they published on the Mexican election: www.nytimes.com/2012/07/02/world/americas/mexico-presidential-election.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120702If you haven't read it already, here is The Guardian article on Televisa's tactics to promote the husband of one of their soap opera stars: www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/07/mexico-presidency-tv-dirty-tricks?intcmp=239This is The Guardian's response to Televisa's refutation of that article: www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/08/guardian-statement-televisaI really don't like Reuter's treatment of the subject, but it's accurate enough, if smarmy. However, presenting López Obrador's reaction of the previous election as a mere tantrum is most unfair & bad reporting besides. López Obrador did what Al Gore should have done when he "lost" to baby B*sh. AMLO called for a recount of the votes, which seems a simple enough thing to have granted. www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/01/us-mexico-election-candidates-idUSBRE86007220120701
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2012 17:05:37 GMT
To give you an idea of how small minded a lot of people can be, the only thing that interests a lot of the French press is whether this election increases the chance of Florence Cassez being released. (She is a French citizen who may have got in with the wrong crowd, or maybe it was all invented by corrupt police, but she was sentenced to 60 years in prison for some sort of kidnapping affair.) The "year of Mexican culture" in France in 2011 was cancelled because of this case. This implies that France does not believe in the independence of Mexican justice and was willing to punish hundreds if not thousands of Mexican cultural participants on its little peeve.
Apart from that, the press here has been relatively neutral about this election, just hoping that the situation in Mexico will improve and not saying in advance that the PRI coming back to power is a heresy. The gist of most of the articles is that things will probably get a little better but not earthshakingly so. That's about the same way the French press feels about the recent French elections.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 2, 2012 17:39:27 GMT
I guess the French press, like media everywhere, tends to harp on subjects dear to the home folks. Probably all countries have headlines similar to "Mega jumbo jet goes down. 3 Americans killed". I well remember the Florence Cassez thread, & just looked at it again. This line by you (written in July of 2010) provoked a sad chuckle: I am totally ignorant about this subject [drug wars in Mexico]...What news-watching or -reading person could say that today? But I applaud France's decision to cancel the year of Mexican culture & hardly consider the unexamined & lengthy incarceration of one of France's citizens a "little peeve". From what little I've read about the Mexican election in the US press, it seems their attitude is just as bland as that of the French press.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 3, 2012 3:37:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2012 6:23:39 GMT
I see that the other candidate has not conceded defeat yet.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 3, 2012 16:30:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2012 5:20:32 GMT
Mexico recounting more than half presidential voteMexican electoral authorities are recounting more than half the ballot boxes used in the weekend's presidential election after finding inconsistencies in the vote tallies.
Of the 143,000 ballot boxes used during Sunday's vote, 78,012 will be opened and the votes recounted, said Edmundo Jacobo, executive secretary of Mexico's Federal Electoral Institute.
Electoral officials expect the recount plus the final, official overall count on the presidential vote to be ready by Sunday, said Ana Fuentes, an IFE spokesman.
Mexico's electoral law states that votes should be recounted if there are inconsistencies in the final tally reports, if there is a difference of one percentage point or less between the first and second place finishers or if all the votes in a ballot box are in favor of the same candidate.
With 99% of the vote tallied in the preliminary count, Enrique Peña Nieto of the Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI, led with 38% of the vote. Andrés Manuel López Obrador of the Democratic Revolution Party had 32%.
Authorities also will recount 61% of the ballot boxes in the vote for Senate seats and 60% in the vote for the lower house of Congress, Jacobo said.Full article from The Guardian
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 5, 2012 5:30:19 GMT
Ain't it great?! They should scrutinize and count them all, plus give all those people who didn't get a ballot a chance to vote. I'm not thrilled that President Obama was so quick to congratulate P-N. Looks as though other countries are not pulling punches about how unimpressed they are with El Titere:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2012 18:09:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2012 20:56:07 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 4, 2012 17:01:52 GMT
Vomit. Vomit. Vomit. I went to a baptism on Sunday, the day el copete was sworn in. Dry laws were enforced across the land, in a dictatorial desire for tranquility. The priest at the baptismal Mass was a hoot. He was not young, commenting at one point that he'd been a priest for 49 years. During the sermon he spoke about sacraments, not surprisingly. When he got to the sacrament of marriage, he slyly said that even the new president had to marry La Gaviota in order to be president. Later, at the end of the Mass, we were asked to pray for the newly baptized boy, his parents, etc. etc. and "for the new president ....... pause ......... even if he is a PRIista". Mexico's new first lady is known as "La Gaviota" (The Seagull) because of her most popular role during her soap opera career: Left to right, top:Angelican Rivera How she sees herself How Peña-Nieto sees her How the tv network sees her Left to right, bottom:How the proletariat see her How fb & twitter see her How the priistas see her The reality* *aging Mexican stars
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