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Posted by bixaorellana on Sept 27, 2009, 4:43am
Ooo ~~ would love to see that.

Last night I watched Bandits and absolutely loved it. This movie is so much fun with some great lines and I recommend it, especially for those times when a movie can't be found to suit everyone in the house. Billy Bob Thornton is terrific, but everyone does a great job.

Look at the soundtrack:
* "Gallows Pole" - Jimmy Page & Robert Plant
* "Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum" - Bob Dylan
* "Holding Out for a Hero" - Bonnie Tyler
* "Twist in My Sobriety" - Tanita Tikaram
* "Rudiger" - Mark Knopfler
* "Just Another" - Pete Yorn
* "Walk on By" - Aretha Franklin
* "Superman (It's Not Easy)" - Five for Fighting
* "Crazy 'Lil Mouse" - In Bloom
* "Just the Two of Us" - Bill Withers, Grover Washington, Jr.
* "Wildfire" - Michael Martin Murphey
* "Total Eclipse of the Heart" - Bonnie Tyler
* "Bandits Suite" - Christopher Young
Posted by lola on Sept 27, 2009, 5:06pm
Casimira, my daughter and I started watching Mad Men on DVD, 1st season. Also hooked. Love the attention to period detail.
Posted by kerouac2 on Sept 27, 2009, 5:10pm
The French media talk about Med Men all the time, but I have not ever seen it yet. I know that I need to track down the cable channel and finally watch it.
Posted by casimira on Sept 27, 2009, 5:10pm
Oh, I am so excited lola! It gets better and better.! Bixa's onto it to! She already caught up to the current season.
Posted by bixaorellana on Sept 28, 2009, 4:24am
Thanks to everyone on the "favorite movie lines" thread, I just watched In the Loop. ;D What I thought was so great about it was they brought back the pacing of old 1940s Warner Bros. films, with the rapid-fire patter and the stepping on of lines.
Posted by lola on Sept 29, 2009, 11:31pm
I want to see In The Loop again, but missed its short theater run here. Did you see it on DVD? It's supposed to be not all that far from how things were run on both sides of the Atlantic; Bugsy Malone with real guns indeed.

I did have to see it twice to catch as much as I did even. Rapid fire + Scottish accent = diffy.
Posted by bixaorellana on Sept 30, 2009, 1:47am
Lola, I watched it the way I watch all movies and tv nowadays --- online. If you look at some of my comments on various movies, you'll see that I frequently provide a link to the movies.

This is a good, working link, although not as crisp a picture as I'd like. Once the video starts playing, pause it for a few minutes to let it load well before watching. A tip about watching online movies in full-screen mode: if you ordinarily wear reading glasses at the computer, switch to a weaker pair of glasses.
Posted by lola on Oct 1, 2009, 1:13am
Ah, so! Thanks!

Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
Posted by bixaorellana on Oct 1, 2009, 2:12am
I don't care what you saw written on the bathroom wall ~~ that's not true!
Posted by kerouac2 on Oct 1, 2009, 5:34am
Last night I was watching a documentary on Arte, the Franco-German station, about sexuality in Germany after the war. It was interesting how the two Germanys went in totally different directions -- the West turned the women into perfect housewives whose primary role was to please their husbands, and the East did everything to make women the equals of men in the professional world and even in the bedroom. There were some excerpts of grainy black and white medical shows from East German TV with incredibly frank discussions about masturbation and things like that.

Apparently, there is still a major sexual divide between east and west.
Posted by casimira on Oct 1, 2009, 11:09am
Might as well throw in North and South while you're there. ;)
Posted by lola on Oct 1, 2009, 2:24pm
Mad Men illustrates that post-war western primary female role thing in an interesting way.
Posted by bixaorellana on Oct 1, 2009, 3:02pm
How so, Lola? I frequently find my blood boiling when watching the show, as I well remember the generally demeaning way that women were treated.
Posted by lola on Oct 1, 2009, 3:41pm
I meant primary role = pleasing men. Your blood boils because the show mirrors post war daily life, probably. I'd never seen it shown like that: the constant putting down of working women anyway.

I think it MUST be just a tad exaggerated. My mother's in Draper's wife's generation, was always on the protofeminist side. I'd love her thoughts on how accurate the demeaning is.

The gynecologist lighting up his cigarette as he enters the exam room with Peggy. His bedside manner.
Posted by bixaorellana on Oct 1, 2009, 3:53pm
Lola, I'm a whole generation older than you and, trust me -- it's not exaggerated. I frequently discuss the show with a friend who is eleven years older, and she corroborates my memories of that time and its attitudes. Really, I'd forgotten -- or repressed -- how vile it really was.
Posted by kerouac2 on Oct 1, 2009, 4:47pm
Well, hurray for East Germany! :D And of course the rest of the communist world. They worked the women just as hard as the men while you were sprawled on the sofa eating chocolates. ;)
Posted by imec on Oct 1, 2009, 5:14pm
A few good women...

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Posted by lola on Oct 1, 2009, 10:02pm
Dream Girls
Posted by bixaorellana on Oct 2, 2009, 7:53am
Whew! I just finished watching Sling Blade. I was so impressed by Billy Bob Thornton in Bandits that now I'm trying to see all his movies. Sling Blade is a great piece of movie making & one of those films that you hope the casting director got some kind of award.
Posted by kerouac2 on Oct 2, 2009, 9:05am
Billy Bob probably never would have had much of a career if it hadn't have been for Sling Blade, which did, as I recall, win an Oscar or two.
Posted by imec on Oct 2, 2009, 12:41pm

Oct 2, 2009, 7:53am, bixaorellana wrote:
I was so impressed by Billy Bob Thornton in Bandits that now I'm trying to see all his movies.


This is a good one ::). What a loser.

Posted by casimira on Oct 2, 2009, 1:44pm
His early stuff is good and then like so many decent actors he started making some really poor choices.
Posted by bixaorellana on Oct 2, 2009, 2:13pm
Imec, I didn't watch the entire interview on the youtube clip, but my strong impression is that BBT was annoyed that the rest of the band was immediately ignored by the interviewer because all the attention was directed to the famous guy.
Posted by imec on Oct 2, 2009, 3:29pm
Watch the interview. The interviewer opens by introducing the BAND and then asking the BAND questions commenting on their recording prolificacy (3 albums in one year). When he turns to BBT (one of the band members btw - and the only one anyone has ever heard of) and says "you guys have only formed within the last two years" the idiot's brilliant response is "I don't know what you're talking about" - that was about the cleverest thing he said in the whole interview.

He may be an ok actor but he's an asshole - by any reasonable measure.
Posted by bixaorellana on Oct 2, 2009, 5:06pm
In the immortal words of Johnny Depp when asked to comment on the political opinions of some film stars:

"Who cares what they think? They're actors."

I stick by my original impression of the video. It seems to me that the interviewer was more interested in BBT because of his celebrity. He spends half of his introduction rhapsodizing over BBT, and his very first direct question is aimed at him, even though the other band members seem to defer to the guy on the left as their spokesperson. I get the feeling that the interviewer was expected to make the program about the band and that BBT became hostile when he went on & on & on about BBT's career.
Posted by imec on Oct 2, 2009, 5:25pm

Oct 2, 2009, 5:06pm, bixaorellana wrote:
It seems to me that the interviewer was more interested in BBT because of his celebrity.


Which is exactly what his audience would have been interested in. Do you really believe the Boxmasters would have been on the show (or any show for that matter) were it not for their celebrity frontman? And do you really think BBT would have a shot at a successful musical career were it not for his celebrity (despite his delusion that he should be compared to Tom Petty ::)). Assholeishness at it's finest. (although Joaquin Phoenix plays a close second... )
Posted by bixaorellana on Oct 2, 2009, 6:09pm
Ah-ha ~~ Billy Bob was a singer before he was an actor. He was in bands in the early '80s.

Furthermore, do you wish to be condescended to by an interviewer deciding what would most interest you, particularly about music?

My extensive research (I googled a couple of things) corroborates my feeling that he did not wish to be singled out in that interview because of his movie celebrity. Said research also indicates that things he said could be interpreted as anti-Canadian.
Posted by kerouac2 on Oct 2, 2009, 6:29pm
So, what was the deal with Angelina Jolie?
Posted by imec on Oct 2, 2009, 6:43pm

Oct 2, 2009, 6:09pm, bixaorellana wrote:
Ah-ha ~~ Billy Bob was a singer before he was an actor. He was in bands in the early '80s.

Furthermore, do you wish to be condescended to by an interviewer deciding what would most interest you, particularly about music?

My extensive research (I googled a couple of things) corroborates my feeling that he did not wish to be singled out in that interview because of his movie celebrity. Said research also indicates that things he said could be interpreted as anti-Canadian.


I was in a band in the early 70's - funny, no one wants to interview me about it.

BBT was a guest on a radio show that was giving him an opportunity for publicity - he blew it by acting boorish (although,as they say, no such thing as bad publicity.

As for his "anti-Canadian sentiments... That was actually quite funny. He said something to the effect that Canadians are like "mashed potatoes without the gravy". It's a pretty reasonable generalization that we're not particularly colorful people - and if he hadn't created such a sour context within which to make the statement it may have been more favorably received.
Posted by lola on Oct 2, 2009, 7:48pm
The deal with Angelina Jolie is that Brad Pitt's probably a lot easier to live with than Billy Bob, but Billy Bob is more interesting to watch in a movie.

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