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Post by bjd on Jan 15, 2014 15:34:39 GMT
Not to mention that screens were pretty small in those days, so they would have to really squint to see the letters.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 15, 2014 18:01:50 GMT
I like the way he's repeating the same thing about three times, but never says what those essential vitamins might be nor why the body needs them.
I knew a woman who swore by Geritol, and this was in the 80s or 90s. She was only in her late 40s or early 50s at the time.
Should look this up, because I'm wondering if Geritol wasn't taken off the market because of alcohol content.
Remember Lucille Ball advertising VitaMeataVegamin, which surely was a take off on Geritol?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2014 18:31:22 GMT
I just had to go to their website to find out what Geritol is claiming in 2014.
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Post by mich64 on Jan 15, 2014 18:53:17 GMT
My physician has been testing our B12 levels the last few years and both of ours has been low (must be something lacking in our diets) so he has recommended taking a supplement for this. If I remember correctly the reason for concern in low B12 is studies indicating connections with early on set of dementia. I used to take a multi vitamin every day and found I was having frequent head aches. I stopped taking the vitamins and the head ache stopped.
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Post by bjd on Jan 15, 2014 19:10:13 GMT
Surely, if Geritol was for "iron-poor blood", it should have contained iron and not vitamins and alcohol?
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Post by mich64 on Jan 15, 2014 19:28:10 GMT
When I was a child I had to take an iron pill a day. The taste was horrible. I always had low iron because I was "what was called then" a bleeder. Frequent nose bleeds that took hours to stop and I bruised badly.
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Post by joanne28 on Feb 3, 2014 1:13:41 GMT
I was very, very tired and my doctor tested my B12 level. It was low and now I take B12 which has improved things. Apparently, as one gets older, the body doesn't absorb B12 from one's diet, even if it is a good healthy diet.
This aging thing sucks. I turn 60 at the end of the month and haven't decided how I feel about it yet. On the whole, it beats the alternative. But since I'm still about 28 in my mind, I really have trouble wrapping my head around the concept.
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Post by questa on Feb 3, 2014 1:42:57 GMT
This aging thing sucks. I turn 60 at the end of the month and haven't decided how I feel about it yet. On the whole, it beats the alternative. But since I'm still about 28 in my mind, I really have trouble wrapping my head around the concept.
Oh Joanne28, I haven't chatted with you yet, but I know what you mean. Inside I feel 37 but the body is definitely 71 and giving me troubles. I have just developed severe osteo-arthritis in lower spine, left hip and knee and most crippling of all my right foot. Up until now I could still travel OK with sundry ailments, now it hurts so much just to move to the next room. Realising that I won't be able to travel as I did hurts even more.
Don't let the age numbers get to you, check with any of the older members here and they will probably amaze you at the adventures they were having in their 60s. Set out and do what you want to in this decade, the next one gets tougher!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 5:23:44 GMT
Well, having read this thread makes me want to go and get my B12 levels checked. About 3 months ago my hair started to fall out when I washed it - it looked like handfuls, but I have long hair so it wasn't dire, but it definitely was more than usual. I found out I had low iron levels and started taking ferritin and hey! my hair stopped falling and my fingernails started to grow. Never been able to grow fingernails properly.
As per the rest, I got mono (British: glandular fever) when I was teaching English in Rome. Never been so sick in my life. I had to move back with my parents for a year, and it took almost 5 years before I started to feel normal and could work full-time. I tested positive for Epstein-Barr and I supposed I had CFS. I went to a support group once, and when they handed out little sparkly rubber balls (for spiritual uplift?), I ran for the hills. Now I don't claim to have anything but healthy cynicism.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 5:42:50 GMT
I don't think that even the quacks have come up with treatment for healthy cynicism yet.
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Post by questa on Feb 5, 2014 5:48:47 GMT
Drat! There goes Australia's secret weapon in sporting prowess. Vegemite (like your Marmite but stronger) is a huge source of Vit B12. Kiddies here wean onto vegemite sandwiches and by puberty seem to live on them. Veg on toast is almost the national dish. By middle age we have been seduced into cosmopolitan foods so naturally we eat less vegemite. It must follow that our B12 levels drop....eat more vegemite, folks, and you too can win gold!
and Lizzy, all cynicism is healthy. Well done.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 5:56:44 GMT
Sorry, can't abide Vegemite or Marmite, but I appreciate the advice, questa. I'll have to go the pharmacological route if anything is amiss.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 21:23:40 GMT
It appears tha tanorexia nervosa and bulimia are back (I don"t think that they ever really went away). I heard on the radio that there are numerous websites/blogs etc. that promote different ways to stay "skinny". (AKA emaciated). It's become quite epidemic. I looked at one of the sites and was incredibly appalled at the sick sick photos, "advice" etc.
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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 17, 2015 15:45:42 GMT
This thread started with chronic fatigue syndrome and my eldest grandson (the cricketing one) went down with it 3 years ago last November. When he was 11 he spent 4 days in hospital with glandular fever and it seems that triggered it. He missed virtually a whole winter of school and for that winter and the next winter played no football. It is only this season that he has been able to take it up again. Even now the odd day catches him out and he can do nothing. The hospital still like to see him once a month to check him out. It is definitely real.
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Post by bjd on Apr 17, 2015 15:54:19 GMT
I do wish they would find a term other than "syndrome" for real sicknesses. When I hear "syndrome", I always think it's an invented malady to sell more pills.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 16:17:57 GMT
This thread started with chronic fatigue syndrome and my eldest grandson (the cricketing one) went down with it 3 years ago last November. When he was 11 he spent 4 days in hospital with glandular fever and it seems that triggered it. He missed virtually a whole winter of school and for that winter and the next winter played no football. It is only this season that he has been able to take it up again. Even now the odd day catches him out and he can do nothing. The hospital still like to see him once a month to check him out. It is definitely real. Oh, mick, I went that exact same route as your grandson and it's not much fun. Glandular fever, followed by 10 years of feeling like crap. Thank goodness your grandson is young and he will recover in less time. I was in my late 20s and I got mononucleosis (glandular fever) whle working in Italy; I flew back to Canada and had to live with my parents for a year because I didn't have the energy or resources to do anything for myself. I saw naturopaths and tried all sorts of therapies, but after a few years I felt better or, more likely, I just got sick of being sick and pushed through it. I'll never forget the one (!) chronic fatigue support group that I attended where we were all given tiny rubber balls to bounce for some reason or another. It was when chronic fatigue became really faddish. If you haven't already, do some research on Epstein Barr virus, which causes GF. I know it's probably a lot of b.s., but I took a LOT of vitamin C for a very long time, and I felt it helped, as much as anything. Good luck with your grandson. It sounds like he's on the road to recovery and if he's into sports so much the better. And it's Spring!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 17:07:11 GMT
That sound similar to what sufferers have told me about hepatitis C, but at least that is a specific disease. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to treat anyway.
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Post by lagatta on Apr 17, 2015 20:24:17 GMT
Barbara Ehrenreich wrote scathing prose about "pink cancer land"; the sparkly crap raises its inane head even in terms of very grave and potentially fatal diseases. A relative of mine had prostate cancer (he's fine now) and the docs could find nothing better for him than "group therapy". He said that if he was going to die, that was bloody well the last sort of thing he'd waste his remaining time on.
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Post by komsomol on Apr 17, 2015 20:37:46 GMT
Not hearing much about "the heartbreak of psoriasis" which broke so many hearts 30 years ago
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 20:50:37 GMT
I think it went the way of "Carter's Little Liver Pills".
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Post by questa on Apr 18, 2015 12:43:44 GMT
I do wish they would find a term other than "syndrome" for real sicknesses. When I hear "syndrome", I always think it's an invented malady to sell more pills. BJD...a syndrome is different to a disease. A disease has a presentation of signs and symptoms and tests can be cone to confirm the diagnosis. A syndrome is a collection of various signs and symptoms but for definitive diagnosis there is no test. Not all the symptoms may be present, or, the patient may have symptoms that have not been associated with her disease before. It makes it hard for the specialists who can't give a definite diagnosis to the patient. Chronic Fatigue was one of these and there is no real test in Parkinson's Disease. When I first saw my specialist he said they have no way of confirming PD, but take these pills, they are specifically for PD. If you lose your tremor that is the nearest thing to a test/confirmation we can do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2015 13:08:15 GMT
All the more reason for seeking a second opinion and having to be your own advocate.
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Post by bjd on Apr 18, 2015 14:18:01 GMT
Thanks, Questa.
A friend of mine in Canada developed Parkinson's when she was about 50. It took several years for the correct diagnosis because her doctor kept telling her the symptoms were those of menopause.
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Post by questa on Apr 18, 2015 23:21:20 GMT
My neurologist said that about 20% of diagnosed PD patients are shown on autopsy to have something else. The only real test is examining the brain post mortem. It seems that no-one is sure what that 20% actually had.
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Post by rikita on Apr 24, 2015 8:04:44 GMT
That sound similar to what sufferers have told me about hepatitis C, but at least that is a specific disease. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to treat anyway. which part? the one about chronic fatigue, or something else?
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Post by rikita on Apr 24, 2015 8:07:19 GMT
This thread started with chronic fatigue syndrome and my eldest grandson (the cricketing one) went down with it 3 years ago last November. When he was 11 he spent 4 days in hospital with glandular fever and it seems that triggered it. He missed virtually a whole winter of school and for that winter and the next winter played no football. It is only this season that he has been able to take it up again. Even now the odd day catches him out and he can do nothing. The hospital still like to see him once a month to check him out. It is definitely real. Oh, mick, I went that exact same route as your grandson and it's not much fun. Glandular fever, followed by 10 years of feeling like crap. Thank goodness your grandson is young and he will recover in less time. I was in my late 20s and I got mononucleosis (glandular fever) whle working in Italy; I flew back to Canada and had to live with my parents for a year because I didn't have the energy or resources to do anything for myself. I saw naturopaths and tried all sorts of therapies, but after a few years I felt better or, more likely, I just got sick of being sick and pushed through it. I'll never forget the one (!) chronic fatigue support group that I attended where we were all given tiny rubber balls to bounce for some reason or another. It was when chronic fatigue became really faddish. If you haven't already, do some research on Epstein Barr virus, which causes GF. I know it's probably a lot of b.s., but I took a LOT of vitamin C for a very long time, and I felt it helped, as much as anything. Good luck with your grandson. It sounds like he's on the road to recovery and if he's into sports so much the better. And it's Spring! that does not sound fun ... my mom's colleague has or was suspected to have the epstein barr virus, if i remember right ... she was unable to work for a few years (which ended up being a bit stressful for my mom, as her colleague always wanted to return to work at a time when my mom thought it was too early, so she worked a bit and then had to stay home another half year or so - so they again had to start organizing a new replacement ...
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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 24, 2015 8:16:28 GMT
Indeed, George is so sport mad that he pushed himself through it to play.
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Post by your auntie trying to get in on Jun 24, 2015 12:50:21 GMT
Interestingly, I stumbled upon this thread and I do have a much stronger opinion on some of those than I had before graduating with a bachelor of science. I now know how these disorders are real. I know how to explain several things in this thread and unfortunately, there are people playing with these things and people laughing at those genuinely impacted as a result. a sorry state of affairs.
I'll look into other threads later. must run! lovely to see everyone here, btw.
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Post by auntieannie on Jun 26, 2015 22:20:49 GMT
hello, peeps! yes, reply 57 was meee! cheers!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 1:25:01 GMT
Hey! So nice to see you again!
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