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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2009 19:02:21 GMT
"Kro" was just about the only beer for some people in the old days. (Since I was sometimes in Lorraine, I wouldn't know, because we had so many different beers available there. I am still fond of Amos, "la bière de Metz" which has a star of David in its logo.)
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Post by gyro on May 18, 2009 19:02:36 GMT
I don't think wine is 'girly' at all. That's a strange label.
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Post by rikita on May 23, 2009 16:31:48 GMT
hm, i used to drink to get drunk, as a teenager, because then i liked the feeling of inhibition, and of course because as a teenager one tends to find these things cool, and because i tend to feel insecure in certain social contexts. after some very embarrassing episodes that changed, and i very much dislike having had a few glasses too many in public (like at a party). i still sometimes like a couple of glasses of wine or a beer though, because it still helps me to loosen up a bit and approach people when i am shy... so yeah, i find the feeling of being slightly tipsy still nice, though now i very much dislike being actually drunk.
i do like the taste of alcohol, also the taste of strong alcohol. and the feeling in the mouth - like the slight burning from alcohol, which you can't copy with other food or drink. so if there was alcohol free alcohol (i am not that great a fan of beer so alcohol free beer doesn't help me) i'd drink that...
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Post by bixaorellana on May 23, 2009 17:44:17 GMT
Clarification ~~ I wasn't saying that wine is "girly". What I meant was that there is sometimes a perception that drinking wine is more refined than drinking other alchoholic beverages. Thus, a woman who wants to hide her drinking problem from herself frequently makes wine her drink of choice, thinking of it as "only" wine.
A corollary might be the guy whose friends and family think has a drinking problem, but he describes his habit to himself as "just having a few beers".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2009 22:14:19 GMT
Alcohol abuse is rising again, perhaps a sign of the economic times.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2009 22:42:40 GMT
I think I'd be more worried about someone who NEVER drinks. I've met a lot of 'dry' alcoholics who can't take that first drink, because they know they won't be able to stop.
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Post by fumobici on Nov 18, 2009 3:12:31 GMT
I genuinely enjoy the flavor of good wine, beer and even distilled spirits. I don't drink a lot of alcohol and almost never will at home but I'm not puritanical at all about it and even enjoy getting a buzz once in a while if I'm not driving. When I'm in Italy I almost never eat anything unaccompanied by a glass of red but I can't remember really getting a buzz.
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Post by livaco on Nov 18, 2009 17:41:04 GMT
It is an interesting question -- why do people drink?
I know that the answer has changed for me. When I first started drinking beer (in my teens) I remember that I didn't like the taste at all -- or the feeling of being out of control. But I drank it anyway, and got to the point where I DID like the taste and the feeling. So when I was young my reasons must have been to fit in or to appear grown-up. Or possibly because I associated drinking with fun, and figured I'd grow to like it.
Now I drink to be more sociable (less shy) or to feel more relaxed. I usually only drink beer, mainly because I can easily gauge how much I am drinking so I don't get to where I am slurring my words or embarrassing myself or to where I will regret it the next day. I don't trust mixed drinks because you don't know how much alcohol is in there. And I tend to drink wine too fast because I am used to beer. I don't like doing shots at all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2009 18:08:09 GMT
Beer is indeed one of the better drinks for retaining partial control because the amount of liquid that you need to ingurgitate helps to limit the possible excesses. The stomach and the bladder can only hold so much.
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Post by existentialcrisis on Nov 19, 2009 8:13:42 GMT
Just discovered this thread (there are so many!)...
I am a born and raised Nova Scotian. If you have heard of our reputation, it is true. You can always find drunk people in Halifax, and there are more bars per capita in Halifax than any other city in Canada. I have been taking sips of my dad's beers ever since... well, I'm not sure if I could walk yet, judging from one picture I have. I used to passionately collect beer caps in my childhood, and went with my father to the liquor store to return empty bottles and LOVED that old stale beer smell! So needless to say, I acquired a taste for beer when I was very young.
Now, I spent life from age 12 to age 18 an hour outside of Halifax in a place called Lunenburg. This is a fishing town, first and foremost. The local slogan is: "Lunenburg, a drinking town with a fishing problem." I have witnessed high school aged boys drinking a 40oz bottle of hard liquor to themselves. I didn't know anyone who didn't drink. And we didn't just drink, we drank until we passed out or threw up. It wasn't acceptable for a male to drink anything besides beer, rye whiskey, or dark rum. So wine being girly? Yup. Vodka even? A little....
I now know people who still live there who are in their mid 20s who have serious drinking problems and serious liver damage.
Myself, I went to university where I continued binge drinking in a terrible way. I would even say I had a drinking problem. I guess I grew out of it, thankfully. I drink frequently now, but rarely get drunk, as I mostly just drink beer. Though I might drink a lot of beers, I don't find it hits me as hard as gin and tonic (my arch nemisis), and I still have a high tolerance from all those years of abuse.
I agree that it is no longer fun to get drunk and lose my inhibitions. However, I would have to drink upwards of 8 beers for this to happen.
Nowadays I love frequenting pubs (instead of dance clubs) and enjoying handcrafted beers (Canada has a growing microbrew industry), or good imports. I have also grown an appreciation for wine in the last few years. So while I understand the desire to get drunk, I also understand the enjoyment of the palate.
I don't know why non-alcoholic beer doesn't cut it. There is some sort of warm alcohol taste that is required... or maybe it is partially due to the association that the taste has with the way it makes you feel.
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