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Post by questa on Dec 10, 2019 4:24:58 GMT
In a bid to reduce electricity we are being told to turn off all switches off at the wall when we are going out or to bed. My house is full of little standby lights at night...that is how I navigate. Batteries glow as they charge and clocks tell me how much sleep I am not getting. Surely they don't use THAT much power?...or do they?
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 10, 2019 5:33:16 GMT
A standby light uses less than 0.5W. It is another case of the little man being told to do something relatively worthless whilst the big men do nothing. In simple terms, one standby LED would need to be on for 2000 hours to use up 1 kilowatt hour (Kw/h) and probably longer because 0.3W to 0.4W is about the norm, not 0.5W.
So you have this standby LED on for 2000 hours to make 1Kw/h (1000W/0.5)- now follow me through on this and using rounded figures - the energy in one litre of petrol is equivalent to 10Kw/h (actually 9.7). Therefore if you use a standby LED for 2000 x 10 you have used the same amount of energy as 1 litre of petrol.
20000 hours = 833 days on full time - two years, three months and ten days - just so Mr Big in his ute can go another 7 to 8km. Bollocks to him. I'll leave my stuff on standby of I want to. No matter what I save, somebody will waste it, so as long as I don't go stupid with energy usage, I'll have my little luxuries.
The house in Spain is full solar power so it is in a away, pointless to save electricity. I might as well just use up what I have in the batteries and get them topped up again - plus, batteries stay healthier longer when the are charged and discharged regularly.
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 10, 2019 5:48:15 GMT
The more I hear about connected devices, the more I feel like doing things manually. Same here. In my simple little mind, if everything is connected to everything, when something goes wrong, it all goes tits up. If you separate stuff, then you have other stuff that still works if one thing has its wheels fall off.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 10, 2019 17:06:53 GMT
And just as an example of that, my internet box apparently went kaput today so until the repairman comes tomorrow afternoon, I have no internet, television or telephone. Imagine if the hot water, the lights and the radio were all hooked up to the same system.
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Post by whatagain on Dec 10, 2019 19:25:01 GMT
The perfect definition of a couple OnlyMark. When I dysfunction my wife usually is still ok. And vice Versa.
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Post by questa on Dec 11, 2019 4:37:43 GMT
Rolling out the NBN here seems to be fraught with problems. Mine went down yesterday 4pm No phone or internet. My busted ribs have started to hurt again so tried to see my Doctor...Mobile phone battery dead. Be a bit scary if it were an emergency.
Thank you Mark for your erudite explanation. Did we ever doubt the pigs noses in the public trough?
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 11, 2019 5:03:25 GMT
I can imagine one day the light will blow on my internet connected fridge and North Korea will launch its nukes at Japan.
I'm all for technology, I'm not someone who wants a return to the middle ages, but there seems to be an inverse ratio of influence that is getting larger and larger. Best way to explain that because it's a new technological concept and I've not worked out the wrinkles in it yet, even down to getting the wording right, but it'll soon be well known and I'll get a Nobel Prize for it, is something like - Imagine the internet where millions of machines are connected. A virus jumps from one machine to the other infecting them all, but not in a linear way, from one to the next, more in a way that one infects one, those two infect two, which goes on to four, eight, sixteen and so on. A compounded effect.
If my phone is connected to my wristwatch, maybe if my wristwatch fails in some way, my phone becomes affected as well. If they are connected to my home computer, maybe that will also? And so on. My TV, fridge, laptop, Xbox (no, don't have one), toaster, smoke detectors, security cameras, car, etc etc.
It used to be that the potential for something going wrong because of something else first going wrong was less than now because fewer things were connected. More and more electronic devices are connecting more and more with others, like a spider's web. With the complexity of devices increasing, whereas a minor thing going wrong with one may only end up affecting one or two other things in the past, thus the sphere of influence is contained, there is getting to be on one hand the complexity of technology, meaning smaller and smaller things can go wrong and on the other hand, more and more items connected with each other.
Thus increasingly smaller things can go wrong and affecting a greater number of connected things. An inverse ratio, that is also becoming more and more inverse as technology and usage/connections progresses. One day I'll burn my toast and South America will have a power cut as opposed to now, I just have burn toast. In the future my fridge will order the milk I've just run out of and the habitat containing half a hundred scientists on Mars will lose all pressure, flash freezing them.
Similar to the Butterfly Effect, but with whereby increasingly microscopic and/or inconsequential causes have larger and larger consequences. Mark my words, it will happen and is coming.
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Post by whatagain on Dec 11, 2019 6:38:17 GMT
i heard of a company that had businesses interconnected. One of their subsidiaries was hit by a virus from Ukraine. The system went down for 2 weeks. No sales no internet not even outlook was functioning. No order taking no invoicing. Huge losses. Incl for a former subsidiary that was just sold some months before. The plants that went into n were the ones that were so small they were not interconnected.
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Post by bjd on Dec 11, 2019 6:45:56 GMT
I don't see it so much that way although I don't argue that it's not beyond the realm of possibility. I am more concerned with all our data being in a cloud and access/control of this cloud ends up in the hands of Russian hackers or somebody like Mark Zuckerberg. I am sure he is not essentially evil, but money and power are known to be highly corrupting.
The French electricity company has a program of installing "smart" electricity meters in everyone's home. Where we were living before, the municipality decided not to participate after some public meetings where people voiced their concern about them. A few about the possibility of sensitive people being affected by the waves emitted, but many of the others wondered what EDF (the company) would do with their data about when people are home, how much power was being used... The town joined a series of others who were opposed to the installation of these Linky meters but will eventually have to give in simply for financial reasons. If you don't want one, you will have to pay for them to come and read your meter.
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 11, 2019 6:53:00 GMT
Those in the UK will be able to tell you better than I can, but I think electronic wifi connected water/electricity meters are compulsory now? Or at least if you don't have one you can't get the best deals available.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 11, 2019 7:37:40 GMT
I refused the first attempt for a new meter two years ago, but compulsory installation will be imposed on me next year.
Meanwhile, I have a peeve about the members here who rely only on their phones for consulting Anyport. They are missing so much. And they don't even know it. They thought that using their phones for everything was an improvement when the opposite is true.
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Post by mossie on Dec 11, 2019 8:14:21 GMT
At the moment we can refuse to be connected to Big Brother but it is only a matter of time before it becomes compulsory.
As the typical old fogey I keep my head down and claim that I do not understand all this new fangled guff. It scares me.
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 11, 2019 12:16:37 GMT
I use my phone as my PC is in my freezing cold office in the garden.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 11, 2019 14:34:27 GMT
I have regained my membership to the World Wide Web after one hour of hard labour by the technician. Now the question is whether I will be charged the 65 euro repair fee as the problem was in the common areas of the building and not inside my flat.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 26, 2019 17:05:32 GMT
I am increasingly annoyed when walking down the street how many people walking two or three (or more) abreast in the opposite direction seem to think that I should stand aside for them to continue unhindered. They do not succeed.
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Post by questa on Dec 26, 2019 22:10:49 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Dec 26, 2019 23:35:47 GMT
My pet peeve of the day was to go shopping before going to the hotel. The supermarket was Airconditioned and I was still wet from swimming in the sea. I love these pet peeves.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jan 6, 2020 21:28:26 GMT
My beloved has developed a habit of saying "I know" every time I make any sort of comment about anything WHATSOEVER! Even if I was the winner of the bleeding obvious statement award it would be irritating....as it is I am starting to fume...I may be developing a twitch....
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 6, 2020 22:50:04 GMT
This is the reason why. The condition is incurable.
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Post by whatagain on Jan 6, 2020 22:50:26 GMT
I know. It can be irritating 🤣🤣😂🤣😅 What does he say when you tell him ?
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Post by patricklondon on Jan 7, 2020 7:45:51 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Jan 7, 2020 14:18:05 GMT
I hurt my leg climbing on a Jetski yesterday. On a spot I already had a ecchymose. So I ended up with a bulge the size of an egg. But a big egg. Impressive. And slightly painful.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 14, 2020 15:12:34 GMT
I absolutely despise any scene in which someone is brushing his/her teeth.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 14, 2020 19:36:19 GMT
Gawd ~ ditto ditto ditto! Why?!
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jan 14, 2020 20:01:36 GMT
I know. It can be irritating 🤣🤣😂🤣😅 What does he say when you tell him ? Three guesses
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jan 14, 2020 20:06:00 GMT
I absolutely despise any scene in which someone is brushing his/her teeth. With me it's when a character throws up. I couldnt get past episode one of Chernobyl because of it. It's the sort of thing that gets chucked (excuse me) into shows to bring a sense of authenticity and drama...just makes me feel ill...
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Post by whatagain on Jan 15, 2020 9:27:39 GMT
My pet peeve is that I wanted to do a Pierrade yesterday. (Meat - or fish - cooked on a stone. Searched for the stone. Then Asked my wife and she said as I expected 'ah well daughter borrowed it. I 'when ?' One month ago. Typical. Grrrrrrrr.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 15, 2020 9:31:51 GMT
Only a month? Most of our precious Le Creuset cookware has been with my daughter for years.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 31, 2020 17:17:53 GMT
Actresses being called actors. Why?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 31, 2020 18:13:45 GMT
Living in France, I have trouble figuring that out, too, since an effort is being made in France to feminise as many names for professions as possible (often by just adding an 'e' at the end, but at least it makes things clear). And we are lagging far behind Switzerland, Québec and Belgium in that department.
Turning actresses into actors seems to me to be a defeat for feminism, an admission that actresses will never be as good as actors.
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