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Post by patricklondon on Jun 10, 2009 19:48:56 GMT
I wish I loved the human race.
I wish I loved its silly face.
And, when I'm introduced to one,
I wish I thought "What jolly fun".
Or, put it another way, l'enfer, c'est les autres.
Apart from everybody here, of course.
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Post by distantshores on Jun 10, 2009 20:58:44 GMT
fat old people walking really slowly, and holding hands. can't they walk behind each other so i can pass more easily? Ha Ha Ha! Now that's funny! You DO realize that someday any of us could be doing that same thing don't you? Especially with the food [crap] we are eating these days! |
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Post by gyro on Jun 11, 2009 6:15:05 GMT
You bunch of joyless bastards. Why can't you be accepting, objective, considerate and compassionate, like me ?
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 11, 2009 6:23:39 GMT
omygod -- you are so right! I can already feel myself turning into a NICE person!  |
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Post by happytraveller on Jun 11, 2009 6:47:05 GMT
Imagine a saturday afternoon in the supermarket, all the people who work during the week go shopping then. The crowd is big. Then there are little kids with their own little kiddie trolleys running uncontrolled through the supermarket bumping in your legs.
THAT brings me to the edge really ! Don't the parents realise this is a no-go on Saturdays ? Or even more so, the supermarket should take the kids trolleys away on saturdays !
ARGH !
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Post by gyro on Jun 11, 2009 6:54:49 GMT
Biscuit; feel the love.
I fear HappyT won't rest until all our little ones are back up the chimney ...... !
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Post by BigIain on Jun 11, 2009 7:09:09 GMT
Parents can never be objective. Some are quite good at handling their kids and therefore are even more impatient with other peoples brats.
But I find the elderly to be more irritating in supermarkets. You would think that they have all the time in the world? When I get to the coffin-dodging stage I will want to spend as little time in the store as possible and as much time doing fun stuff as possible.
I like to sneakily put useful items in to irritating persons' trolleys these days. I generally go to the store with friends so that we can have a coffee afterwards and "planting" items has become a highlight of the visit. So if you take your time or wander across our paths you will find a suitable "gift" in your shopping.
My fave is to put a big pack of condoms in to the shopping of elderly couples!
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Post by gyro on Jun 11, 2009 7:11:21 GMT
Non-parents also can never be objective. But they are consistently the EXPERTS when it comes to How To Raise Your Child .....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2009 7:26:21 GMT
Should the children be allowed to miss school during the week to use their kiddie trolleys so they won't bother the barren women on Saturday? How do you expect them to become model consumers?
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Post by BigIain on Jun 11, 2009 7:26:53 GMT
Very True
I am lucky to have a foot in both camps. I never offer advice as it is never welcome.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 11, 2009 7:28:06 GMT
And think how the misbehaving little monsters cheer those women up, making them thank their lucky stars that they did not reproduce!
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Post by happytraveller on Jun 11, 2009 8:03:00 GMT
I fear HappyT won't rest until all our little ones are back up the chimney ...... ! LOL ! No I am not THAT evil ! |
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Post by rikita on Jun 11, 2009 9:17:58 GMT
actually there are no kiddie trollies in the supermarkets here. but the people that stand in my way are almost always adults. i stand in their way too though. the supermarket i usually go to doesn't have a whole lot of space. most people are friendly to each other though... the bigger problem is packing up the items afterwards - there is a counter where you can do that but there is only space for about two people there, so most of the time it is a problem finding a quiet spot where i can pack the stuff from the trolley into my backpack.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2009 11:30:10 GMT
Non-parents also can never be objective. But they are consistently the EXPERTS when it comes to How To Raise Your Child ..... Yep, that always get me. There is nothing worse than someone who has never had kids of their own giving advice to people who have been through the trials and tribulations of raising their children. You can't get it out of a book, no sirree. |
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Post by gyro on Jun 11, 2009 12:43:41 GMT
Steady on, D, you don't wanna be seen agreeing with me ... !
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2009 14:22:06 GMT
Gyro, I agree with you more times then you realize. But truly, getting advice from non-parents really is one of my pet hates. Always makes me wanna say the STFU words.
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Post by tillystar on Jun 11, 2009 14:58:44 GMT
People who talk to me with their mouth full. It causes me actual physical pain. Oh and I am the other, part of the bad parent brigade  I am driven mad by people who give me looks when 18 month old child is misbehaving (yeah I swore she'd never do that too, until I learnt she doesn't yet understand the phrase common courtesy for all and it might take more than one afternoon to teach it to her!)or who those who don't GET OUT MY WAY or move their shopping bags all over the floor when I ask 3 times to excuse me so I can get on the bus with the buggy then tut when I have to resort to barging them. Oh and old people who push all the school kids out the way to get on the bus then complain about the younger generations terrible manners. Ha, I am in a right old tolerant mood this afternoon, god help anyone who loiters on "the wrong side" of the escalators when I am on my home tonight |
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Post by tillystar on Jun 11, 2009 15:56:57 GMT
Oh and how could I forget, people with HUGE umbrellas who walk along oblivious to all the eyes they are poking out as they go.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 11, 2009 15:59:12 GMT
Ha ~~ try living in a city entirely populated by short people with umbrellas!
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Post by Kimby on Jun 11, 2009 17:36:00 GMT
Computers that quit working! And require incredibly complex (to non-geeks) fixes to work, or trips to expensive repair shops to get them going again. When it's almost cheaper to buy a new one.
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Post by gyro on Jun 11, 2009 20:08:00 GMT
Tourists in my home town that stand RIGHT on the street corner, gesticulating and burbling on, completely blocking the view that you - the motorist - have of seeing any oncoming traffic while trying to turn into the road....
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Post by rikita on Jun 11, 2009 22:06:40 GMT
well since the topic was children earlier... i don't have any, but i always find it a bit funny (and a bit annoying) when in the articles online about the current daycare workers strikes, and the problem of noise in kindergarden someone comments, they should just teach the children to be quiet sometimes. i bet they'd have a great time trying to teach that a room full of two and three year olds...
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Post by gyro on Jun 12, 2009 6:43:36 GMT
... and they should tie them to their chairs to stop them running around and potentiall hurting themselves and others.
Sensible policies for sensible people .......
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Post by tillystar on Jun 12, 2009 8:36:01 GMT
Wow, I am really intrigued by this! I think its hilarious! Who is complaining, the daycare workers? neighbours? People walking by these noisy nurseries?
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Post by traveler63 on Jun 12, 2009 13:59:06 GMT
Speaking of children........ No I don't have any, and yes, I agree sometimes we that don't probably don't understand how complex it is to raise children. However, we are also affected by them. What drives me to the edge with kids is; the ones that parents have not taught them any manners. The biggie for me is you are in a nice restaurant, not necessarily expensive, and they are loud, they don't sit at the table, or they do and are whinny and they argue with their parents. So, instead of taking them outside and having a talk with them, the parents try to reason with them or I have even heard the moms and or dads try to bribe them into good behavior. Oh boy, if I had pulled some of the things they do with my folks, life as I knew it would have been over !!!! And..... now if you even look like you are going to touch them, someone, yells child abuse. In my day, a smack on the bum wasn't considered abuse. Seriously, I do agree that there are better ways to get your point across and physical abuse is horrendous, however somehow we don't include mental abuse along with it. Why is that, I wonder.  |
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Post by rikita on Jun 12, 2009 15:09:00 GMT
oh there are also cases of people living nearby sometimes that complain (there was a case in hamburg where the people didn't want for a nursery to be opened in their area)... but in this case i mean, that the daycare workers themselves are on strike currently in some regions - and they have a good point. they say there work is unhealthy, because of the many sicknesses you catch, and because of the high level of noise, so they want better health plans, more appropriate pay, smaller groups, more rooms, etc. - and some people commented that they didn't like the strike, and that if it is too loud it is the daycare workers' fault for not teaching the kids to be quiet... which of course is a ridiculous thing to say... i don't know what it is like in other countries, but in germany people in social type of jobs - like daycare workers or nurses - get paid very little... and daycare workers additionally get very little recognition, a lot of people somehow imagine they are just drinking coffee or playing with kids... and that it is all fun...
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Post by tillystar on Jun 12, 2009 15:15:58 GMT
I agree, I think that I am so lucky to have the wonderful workers at Lil Star's nursery where she goes 2 days a week. They are superstars and I feel so confident at work leaving her in their care - people who you can place that much trust in need recognition nad to be looked after accordingly. I honestly thank my stars regularly for those girls!
I can see their point on small grups and rooms, here there are quite strict rules about that kind of stuff. I still have to giggle a little about the noise, maybe I just can't appreciate how loud it gets. Maybe they need ear protectors ;D
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 12, 2009 15:19:56 GMT
Oh, I think nowadays people have a much higher consciousness about what constitutes mental abuse. And I imagine that some of the kids who really act poorly in public places have parents who are trying to respect the child's feelings but who never learned ways to get the child to just settle down when necessary.
I know a couple who never raise their voices to their children, or threaten them with punishment. Their entire technique seems to be simple identification with and respect for what the child is experiencing. Small example: we were walking down a very busy city street -- it was hot and a long way to walk for adults, certainly for a four-year-old boy. He became slightly cranky and his mother said, "I bet you're really hot and tired and bored!." He answered, "Yes, I am.", then calmed right down and soldiered on. That couple's two children, even the toddler, could be taken anywhere, and they weren't the least bit subdued or repressed.
As for the noisy kindergartens ......... all primary schools are noisy if you pass them at recess time! The kids were just released from sitting still and being quiet and told to go out and play. They're hardly going to burst out onto the playground and set up chess boards.
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Post by rikita on Jun 12, 2009 17:01:51 GMT
sorry, i always use the word kindergarden wrongly... what i mean is daycare... kindergarden in germany means the place where three to six year olds are, or in some cases zero to six year olds, before they start having classes...
well noise wise, there are days i get a headache. like when i am working in the baby/toddler groups, and there are one or two kids that cry all day (for example because they are new - some kids need several months to properly settle in, or because they are sick but their parents brought them in anyway) - and then you have two or three others who always join in when someone else cries, then it does indeed get loud. or sometimes i am in a group room where there are mainly four and five year old boys playing just then, and i am forced to scream if i want to be heard by them at all. i would imagine those of you that have several children know how loud they can get, and then imagine that with ten or fifteen children in one room... of course, i only work there sometimes, and i will stop when i finish university, but those that work there every day, for all their work life, do indeed sometimes get ear problems because of the noise.
and of course for the kids it is not all that good either, they get louder and louder because the noise level becomes normal for them...
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Post by gyro on Jun 13, 2009 20:35:12 GMT
Whilst I agree that some kids behave terribly and can be very annoying, and also that some parents can be to blame, and can be irresponsible, there is a whole ridiculous cultural attitude towards kids running about. That's what they do; they're kids and they need to expend energy. Naturally, there are places and occasions when they shouldn't and it's not appropriate, but I do think that a lot of the time, peoples reaction to energetic behaviour is intolerantly over-sensitive and misplaced.
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