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Post by fumobici on Jun 10, 2019 5:43:08 GMT
Ichnusa is pretty ordinary beer, but the labels are outstanding. Italian beer is a minefield for a beer snob such as myself, but it is getting better by the day. I was at a taphouse in Florence the other day and they had some pretty decent microbrews made here in Italy.
I'm drinking half tonic and half grapefruit juice this morning.
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Post by lagatta on Jun 10, 2019 12:22:05 GMT
Back when I was studying in Italy, beer fans dodged anything Italian and looked northward to Germany, Belgium, Britain...
Drinking moka (stovetop espresso). This evening will be some rather ordinary (but decent) white wine cut with fizzy mineral water. In between, nothing but water.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 10, 2019 12:39:27 GMT
Actually in Rome, I found that during the day a cold Peroni still hit the spot because of the heat wave. But a Paulaner was much more civilised at night. Thank you for being there, Carrefour Market.
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Post by bjd on Jun 10, 2019 15:11:08 GMT
We had a cold Peroni in Rome too. I think it was the first time I tasted Italian beer. Okay for sitting outside and people watching on a warm day.
Tonight we will finish a bottle of saint-chinian red.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 10, 2019 15:32:00 GMT
I am chilling some cheap rosé for dinner. The colder I can get it, the less cheap it will taste to me. Because it won't taste like anything at all, just "cold."
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 10, 2019 18:16:56 GMT
I'm having a bottle of Desperado beer, a French brand mixed with tequila. Obviously it is a travesty, but very easy to drink.
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Post by fumobici on Jun 11, 2019 3:52:41 GMT
We had a cold Peroni in Rome too. I think it was the first time I tasted Italian beer. Okay for sitting outside and people watching on a warm day. Tonight we will finish a bottle of saint-chinian red. Peroni seems to be the beer fad of the Summer in Washington State among the young crowd. They are even running commercials on TV! If you'd told me ten years ago that Washingtonians would be drinking Peroni and driving around in FIAT Cinquecentos I would have thought you were pazzo. But that's what happened.
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Post by fumobici on Jun 11, 2019 3:57:19 GMT
I am chilling some cheap rosé for dinner. The colder I can get it, the less cheap it will taste to me. Because it won't taste like anything at all, just "cold." Rosé is like beer; the cheaper it is, the colder it must be served.
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Post by bjd on Jun 11, 2019 6:43:02 GMT
We had a cold Peroni in Rome too. I think it was the first time I tasted Italian beer. Okay for sitting outside and people watching on a warm day. Tonight we will finish a bottle of saint-chinian red. Peroni seems to be the beer fad of the Summer in Washington State among the young crowd. They are even running commercials on TV! If you'd told me ten years ago that Washingtonians would be drinking Peroni and driving around in FIAT Cinquecentos I would have thought you were pazzo. But that's what happened. I think it must be the exoticism. We had a Mexican friend come to visit and he was amused to see Corona beer being sold in France. He said it was the most tasteless beer in Mexico.
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Post by lagatta on Jun 11, 2019 8:07:50 GMT
I think of Peroni in the same category as Corona. Oddly, people buy quite a bit of both, although there are far better beers available for about the same price. Those companies both advertise heavily, and the ads say nothing about the beer. None of my Dutch friends drink Heineken either.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 11, 2019 10:57:47 GMT
The ghastliest international brand is Tsingtao. The French elite are always horrified to see Kronenbourg in other countries, even the 1664 version.
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Post by fumobici on Jun 11, 2019 13:50:09 GMT
Tsingdao is pretty awful, they used to sell a much better Chinese beer called Great Wall but I haven't seen that in a decade or two. For Mexican beer, I prefer Bohemia or Negro Modelo -- both decent enough.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 24, 2019 20:11:21 GMT
I really must put away this bottle of Calvados before things get out of hand.
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Post by whatagain on Jun 24, 2019 20:52:50 GMT
Luberon wine and ? Too much anyway.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 24, 2019 20:55:25 GMT
tsk
I like Peroni, in fact liked every Italian beer I tried. (Okay ~ in the immortal words of the loathesome Brett Kavanaugh, I like beer.)
It is true that Corona is totally boring.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 12, 2019 16:18:46 GMT
Gin tonic with Doritos and chakchouka, a match made in heaven
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 12, 2019 17:41:58 GMT
Don't the Doritos get all soggy in the glass?
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jul 12, 2019 21:11:06 GMT
I just had a big bottle of chilled Kingfisher lager...my favourite curry accompaniment. Hic.
Me go bed now.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 13, 2019 0:16:03 GMT
Bonne nuit!
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Post by bjd on Jul 13, 2019 5:28:42 GMT
I opened a bottle of Italian wine from Tuscany the other day to go with a fish dish: Vernaccia di San Gimignano. Not sure who bought it and how it got to the house. Okay, made me think of lemonade at first but it's drinkable.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 15, 2019 18:50:32 GMT
San Gomognano is a wonderful memory. We had a Portuguese wknd yesterday and today from luberon. Quite good even if I say so myself.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 15, 2019 19:27:36 GMT
It is amazing how refreshing cheap red wine can taste when you put in the forbidden ice cubes.
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Post by fumobici on Jul 15, 2019 20:27:31 GMT
S. Gimingano is a fun day trip. I took some photos there but they are probably too old to post now, the town has probably completely changed
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Post by whatagain on Jul 15, 2019 20:36:23 GMT
Yes Fumobici ! Kerouac this is your American half that allows you to put ice cubes in wine. Forbidden for me. My mother once told her guide in ? Japan ? That putting ice cube in wine was like peeing in a temple. The guide blushed.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 15, 2019 20:48:52 GMT
Only people from the northern half of Europe find ice cubes forbidden. Frankly, Americans are horrified by the concept of chilled wine because they have read the rule book and will even drink rosé warm (ewww!).
Now if you really want to be shocked, you should go to Vietnam, where they put ice cubes in beer.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 15, 2019 20:53:02 GMT
Barbarians. 😸
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 15, 2019 20:53:36 GMT
I've been having a Spanish rosé, which I bought because it was cheap, in the evenings with supper. It's been hot here during the day and it's a nice crisp wine which is quite pleasant chilled.
I'm not as strict as Whatagain's mother, but ice cubes bobbing in a glass of wine and bumping into the lips is not pleasant. If I wanted to quickly chill cheap wine, I'd pour it over ice cubes, then fish out the cubes before they started to melt.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 15, 2019 20:55:04 GMT
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Post by bjd on Jul 16, 2019 5:53:20 GMT
I spent 5 days in Paris in February at a wine fair. I learned that the best way to chill wine is to put it in the freezer for a short while, not to leave it in the fridge.
Nobody mentioned ice cubes!
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Jul 18, 2019 18:51:37 GMT
Son came home from Finland with a big bottle of Dalwinne single malt from the duty free shop. Good boy Russell
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