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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 9, 2018 9:18:47 GMT
I was 18 when I got chicken pox courtesy of my mother who had shingles. I was pretty ill and had spots absolutely everywhere - even there...
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Post by questa on Apr 9, 2018 11:45:02 GMT
A bad case of "PeckerPox".
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Post by rikita on Apr 9, 2018 12:48:28 GMT
don't remember how polio vaccine was given when i was a child, but now it is given as part of an immunisation cocktail given in early childhood ...
i know there were some kids that had mumps and some that had measles when i was a kid, it wasn't very many though ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 16:09:01 GMT
After talking to my brother he told me that when he went for the pre-induction physical for the army he was summoned to see a doctor. He was petrified. The doctor had him perform a walking exercise and then had him stand against a blackboard. He measured where each shoulder was. Then he had him stand on a book about an inch and a half thick on one leg and repeated the shoulder level. The test clearly showed that one leg was an inch and a half shorter than the other. The doctor told him he would have to have surgery and the army didn't want to deal with it. Then he gave my brother train fare back home and that was it. He never had surgery and the difference in length has never grossly interfered with his gait or anything else. He does get his suit trousers altered but that's about it. He really did luck out on all fronts. I have noticed in photographs with him standing that one leg is posed slightly in front of the other. He is 6'4'' and has really long legs.
I was told that the likely reason why I never got chicken pox was because my body already carried a herpes simplex virus,the one that brings on "cold sores". I used to get them every so often but haven't in a very long time. One used to have to let them run their course and treat them with Campho-pheniqe. They were just awful. There is now an crème that you put on the mouth at the very first sign of one coming on and they never develop any further.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 9, 2018 17:18:33 GMT
France raised its obligatory number of child vaccinations from 8 to 11 this year. You cannot enroll your child in school unless the vaccination certificate shows that the necessary vaccinations have been effected. I'm not sure if there is already an "all-in-one" injection, but at least most of them have been combined to reduce child torture.
There is a bit of controversy about this since there is an anti-vaccination lobby ("dangerous" "unnecessary" etc.) which seems to have convinced a considerable number of people.
There was a considerable measles epidemic in France this winter, which proved that many children (and in many cases recent immigrants) had never been inoculated. I think there were two deaths.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 9, 2018 18:05:10 GMT
Here we had a neighbour who was a bit "hippyish" in giving birth at home, not wanting to vaccinate her kids. there is an anti-vaccination lobby ("dangerous" "unnecessary" etc.) which seems to have convinced a considerable number of people. Back in the 70s in the US there was such an upsurge in people not vaccinating their kids that there was a resurgence of illnesses which had been considered almost wiped out. Many google hits here.
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Post by lagatta on Apr 10, 2018 12:22:24 GMT
I had the measles in my early 20s and it was very unpleasant; I had to stay in a darkened room so I couldn't read, this besides being spotty and ill I was bored to death. Fortunately no sequelae.
My father had something amiss with his legs or feet and got a medical exemption - this was the Second World War. Odd as he had played hockey and lacrosse (lacrosse is a very tough game, and some of his teammates and opponents were Mohawks) and done heavy factory work. I never asked questions about that - one certainly didn't back then. That is how my parents met, as war workers in Ottawa.
Dansko semi-clogs (with a back) are also popular among healthcare staff.
And Bixa, the anti-vaxxers are back in the US and in France, to a lesser extent in Canada. It is odd as there are many cases of medical abuse and contempt on the part of the medical establishment, but vaccination has a long record in eradicating some pretty dire diseases. It is a pity that measles hasn't been eradicated when it almost was...
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Post by mossie on Apr 10, 2018 15:50:46 GMT
ISTR we had some sort of card for all the different jabs. When I was in the RAF they gave us a tetanus jab every year, a few years after I came out I had an accident at work and badly cut and grazed my leg. I went to the quack and after it was dressed I asked him if I should have a tetanus jab. He laughed and said that I had had enough to last me for life.
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Post by rikita on Apr 11, 2018 0:11:35 GMT
there are people against vaccinations here, too, and also quite a few that leave out some vaccinations. personally, i don't have the time or medical knowledge to really read up on it (a lot of people claim they now know the truth, but i doubt most of them really understand enough, the texts that want to convince you of something tend to take advantage of that), so my policy so far has been that i need to trust my doctor (as in so many other things) and official recommendation. my doctor actually recommended to delay one of the very early vaccinations by a couple of months, so i did that, else agnes got them according to official schedule (plus a few extra ones that we found necessary due to travel).
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Post by questa on Apr 11, 2018 3:33:10 GMT
I am in a vaccination muddle at the moment. Zanzibar has a low level Yellow Fever risk with patches of higher risk dotted around. The travel vax place told me I might need the YF shot to get back into Oz after my trip, but wouldn't actually need it while I was in-country. I learned that if you are in transit and have to wait over for more than 6 hours in one place, you are meant to be immunized as per that country's tourist list.I have not heard of this being enforced. Meanwhile, my little yellow record book is full and the 'sexy'shots like rabies and Jap.Encephalitis fading on the page. My left shoulder carries a neat TB (BCG) scar and my right shoulder displays one of the last Smallpox inoculations given in Oz. I had applied to work at a small hospital where they insisted I have it.I was 8 weeks pregnant as well but no problems arose.
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Post by questa on Apr 11, 2018 5:14:20 GMT
There are 2 sides here and I am interested in your thoughts. A...Isn't the control of infectious disease a job for the Public Health depts? In the overall development of a healthy population there are times when the Government must enforce measures that some people do not agree with. Unless they accept things like insect spraying or destroying stray dogs the people will have to live with Malaria and Rabies Unless everyone has the appropriate immunizations, the old diseases which we mistakenly thought were petty, will again bring grief to families.
B I don't like being told I must do something, just because the doctors are in the pocket of big Pharma. There is a lot of info on the net about reactions to immunisations and I am not putting my kids in harm's way. I feed my family good food and they play outside. They don't get sick. How do these health people tell us they are harmless when we haven't had a long term trial? We never had ADHD or autism when I was at school, what is this program doing?
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 11, 2018 5:33:44 GMT
There are extremely few people qualified to have a valid opinion about such things, but the modern world throws so much information and misinformation in our faces that some people decide that they are experts. Add a few conspiracy theories, and it is possible to scare the shit out of anybody one way or the other.
If I ran the world, pharmaceutical companies would be at the top of my list for nationalisation. Frankly, I don't believe that they are trying to harm anybody, but just the fact that the price of identical medicines can be multiplied by ten in certain countries is totally inadmissible as far as I am concerned.
While I believe that certain vaccinations are unnecessary, I do not oppose them if the health authorities find a reason to make them obligatory. We are exposed to bugs from everywhere in the world now, which is probably a good thing when you think of entire civilisations having been wiped out in the past when infected explorers/invaders/colonists showed up one day and there was no local immunity, but it really makes for a long list of diseases to watch out for.
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Post by rikita on Apr 11, 2018 11:51:14 GMT
I am in a vaccination muddle at the moment. Zanzibar has a low level Yellow Fever risk with patches of higher risk dotted around. The travel vax place told me I might need the YF shot to get back into Oz after my trip, but wouldn't actually need it while I was in-country. yeah, i heard with yellow fever that some countries demand you be inocculated if you have been in an area they perceive as yellow fever risk within the last so-and-so many months, so you don't bring the disease there ...
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 13, 2018 13:57:45 GMT
Today I saw a little boy fiddling with a piece of string on the metro and I realised that cat's cradle has not completely died out even though it requires no power source. www.momsminivan.com/cats-cradle-6.jpg
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 16:42:38 GMT
That's a hopeful sign I like to think.
We have a number of children in our neighborhood who play hopscotch after school.
It's a cheery sight to see the chalk on the sidewalk.
I like to think that my trick or treat packs of colored chalk contributed to this.
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Post by questa on Apr 13, 2018 23:36:33 GMT
When I lived in Lombok I showed the children how to play cat's cradle. I gave out about 15 loops and was surprised that it was the boys who took to the game while the girls watched.The same went for hand and finger games like 'incey wincey spider.' The clapping games with so many complicated movements were definitely for the teenage girls, but the boys joined in the chant. All played a type of hopscotch and caught on to my version easily. I also showed them the game "Fly" where they have to step between 8 parallel sticks with the distance changing from a step to a leap to a tiny gap etc.
Of course we giggled our heads off.Simple fun.
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Post by mossie on Apr 14, 2018 7:46:21 GMT
WOW!!! A child with FOUR hands
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Post by lagatta on Apr 14, 2018 11:06:25 GMT
There is a Lombokstraat in Amsterdam Oost. It is in Indischebuurt, a neighbourhood where the streets are named after places in the former Dutch East Indies. By the way, while buurt sounds like a cognate of "borough", it is a neighbourhood (quartier) that is part of a stadsdeel(borough).
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Post by questa on Apr 14, 2018 12:25:22 GMT
WOW!!! A child with FOUR hands Uh-Oh.....Mossie's been on the turps again!
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 14, 2018 14:16:34 GMT
And how does he know there are only four hands? The child might have another eight hands doing something else.
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Post by questa on Apr 14, 2018 23:31:31 GMT
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Post by patricklondon on Apr 15, 2018 12:08:23 GMT
Looks like you've had the problem I've occasionally had, where the image URL for some reason hasn't copied over. If you edit the post, and put the URL for the image in between the quotation marks after src=, that should put it right. My blog | My photos | My video clips | My Librivox recordings"too literate to be spam"
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Post by questa on Apr 16, 2018 0:02:44 GMT
Thanks Patrick, but I have never got anything to work properly with images since the bucket was kicked. It was just a pic of Asian goddess with 1000 arms, to tie in with K2's post before it. The moment has gone '''
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 16, 2018 4:43:30 GMT
I remember how disquettes seemed like a fantastic advance in technology after floppy disks and now if I saw either, I would gasp at their antiquity.
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Post by rikita on Apr 16, 2018 8:42:54 GMT
i taught a. a (very silly and not particularly funny) joke i liked when i was a child. except, in the original joke, records play a part. i replaced that with cds, even though it doesn't work quite as well.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 16, 2018 18:15:22 GMT
I saw a cartoon the other day of a man holding a diskette. A child is standing in front of him saying, "Cool! You made a 3D copy of the "print" icon."
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Post by kerouac2 on May 27, 2018 14:40:38 GMT
I remember when thread spools were made out of wood.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 27, 2018 15:04:39 GMT
Boy, that brought back a blast of memory. My grandfather & uncle had a general store. When I read "wooden spools", I was suddenly right back in the notions section of the dry goods half of the store, looking into the wood-framed glass case containing thread, bias tape, ribbons, etc.
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Post by onlyMark on May 27, 2018 15:42:26 GMT
My father taught me how to make a tank out of them -
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Post by mossie on May 27, 2018 16:46:59 GMT
Hours of fun. A cotton reel, a rubber band, stub of a candle and a matchstick. They have got it right, even down to cutting notches in the rims of the cotton reel so it will climb over obstacles.
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