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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 5:02:40 GMT
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Post by spindrift on Jul 17, 2009 11:46:16 GMT
Those are riveting photos. I have known nothing of Honduras; now I will follow the story.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 17, 2009 14:56:15 GMT
Oh my goodness! I can't thank you enough for posting this. That boston.com site may be the best in the US for honest coverage of events in other countries.
Really, I am sitting here with tears in my eyes for seeing the intensity of regular people fighting for for their essential freedoms. This forcefully brought back the events in Oaxaca in 2006.
As a little middle-class girl from a country that mostly seems internally placid, it was a revelation and a blessing for me to see housewives, clerical workers, students, the elderly, and pretty much everyone else boil into the streets because they'd already tried doing it "the right way". And when the federal police were sent in, the people called out to them to remind them that they were of the people. The photos above show clearly the clever evil of government pitting two groups who should be on the same side against each other. You can see on the faces of the young soldiers that many of them are aware of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 16:43:51 GMT
But the question is: what next? Apparently, it's all in the hands of the Hondurans themselves, as the rest of the world does not give a flying fuck about it.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 17, 2009 18:29:42 GMT
This is a real crap shoot, as it was a sitting president who was ousted.
I don't know that you can say the rest of the world does not care, as it's the president of Costa Rica who is the mediator in this mess and other leaders are weighing in. Since I don't really trust the AP, Reuters, et al to report even-handedly on this issue, I'm trying to fight down the impression I've gotten that Chavez is more interested in stirring shit than anything else.
And whereas Pres. Oscar Arias (of Costa Rica) has an impressive background in solving conflict, it's hard to see this as anything other than an either-or situation. Talk of a "government of national reconciliation" seems to me to signal at least some tacit approval of the coup.
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Post by hwinpp on Jul 18, 2009 4:54:09 GMT
I think the sitting president ousted himself.
I'm surprised Chavez and the Castros didn't stir more.
I'm a bit pessimistic about central America. Nothing much has changed there in the last 50 years, they're still feudal societies.
What would have happened if they'd have let him land on his first attempt at returning and then just shot him on the tarmac as they did with Aquino's husband in the Philippines? Nothing. For the population at any rate.
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Post by hwinpp on May 23, 2011 10:02:10 GMT
Zelaya is allowed to return. After nearly two years.
So, his ouster seems to have been no big deal.
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Post by bjd on May 23, 2011 11:53:28 GMT
So, his ouster seems to have been no big deal.
Tell that to the people who got beaten up during the demonstrations.
Looking back to your post #5, it was mentioned for ages and in depth on the Venezuelan news at the time. Chavez, of course, supporting Zelaya.
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Post by hwinpp on May 25, 2011 4:58:09 GMT
Yes, those that got beaten up have reason to complain.
But in the grand scheme of things Honduran? Will his 'revolution' change anything?
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Post by bjd on May 25, 2011 7:47:02 GMT
Last night I watched the news on Telesur (just to listen to the Spanish) and they showed the current president, Porfirio Lobo, giving a speech in which he welcomed back Zelaya and his supporters, saying that it will help the democratic process in the country if everyone contributes to it. So, maybe things will move on...
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