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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 13, 2010 18:31:48 GMT
Apparently that's already happening, with distant relatives who barely know the miners getting in on the free jackets, etc. *** stop the presses ~~ Pablo Rojas just reached the surface! *** Some interesting bits here: www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/10/13/chile-miners-rescue-youngest-miner-jimmy-sanchez-tells-how-thoughts-of-his-baby-saved-him-115875-22630228/excerpts: The trapped men last night prepared for their rescue by shining their shoes, washing their hair and putting on fresh socks.
The men have been regularly taking aspirin since Sunday to prevent blood clots on the way up the rescue shaft.
And doctors put them on a high-calorie diet designed by Nasa to prepare them for the 20-minute ride through the 2,051ft shaft.
The liquid food enriched with potassium and magnesium should prevent nausea as the capsule spins 350 degrees some 10 to 12 times through the shaft at a speed of up to three feet per second.
Before the mine collapsed, the men were earning around £417 a month. But now, they will almost certainly never need to work again.
They have a multi-million pound movie and publishing deals on the table.
The 33 men have also been promised a free week-long vacation in the Greek islands, and have been given £6,200 each by a mining magnate as a gift.Mich, here is some information on the capsule, posted at 19:11 uk time: MrGolborne, Chile's mining chief, has said it is unlikely that Phoenix 1 or 3 will be used... unless 2 gets a few scrapes. So far it is holding up well! Here is this really excellent link again -- very clear video & good text updates: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/chile/8058924/Chile-miners-rescue-live.htmlYou know, it doesn't get any less moving as each miner returns to life above ground.  |
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Post by Jazz on Oct 13, 2010 19:05:31 GMT
The story of the Chilean miners is the most exceptional example of solidarity and oneness that I have ever witnessed. The Chilean government did not hesitate to seek out the most experienced people in the world and they fully responded, some publically, some privately. This beautifully orchestrated rescue is overwhelming. Last night I began watching the superb coverage an hour or so before the first miner surfaced. I have been fascinated since then. Each miner has his own special story and I cry each time one steps from the Fenix. Together they worked as a team, much more than the sum of its parts. One of the NASA specialists that is there, is deeply respectful of this achievement. His men, astronauts, are in a similar position of being trapped in isolation with little to no control. But, he clarified, our men are trained for years for this and have the benefit of expensive equipment. These men had no training and were taken totally offguard. I understand that the last man out will be the foreman, Luis Urzua. He is definitely the perfect man for the crisis. This article from the Guardian, explains how wisely and intelligently he immediately took charge in the first 17 days, the days when know one knew that they were even alive. (it was written Sept.5), www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/sep/05/luis-urzua-chile-trapped-minersWhile each of the men thus far is riding high with adrenalin and euphoria, and grateful, they all await ‘the last man’. This will be Luis Urzua. Tonight ((this morning?), I’ll be waiting for him as well. What a triumph of humanity and solidarity. ...so many good stories...love the idea of both the wife and mistress waiting at the top. ...I've seen some footage of the men, in the dark, bearded, shirtless in the 38degree heat. But, when rescue appeared imminent, they ordered 'from above', shampoo, razors, soap and shoe polish! There is a small waterfall down there where they can clean up. I love that they wanted to clean up and present the strongest front that they were humanly capable of for their re-entry into life. |
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Post by mich64 on Oct 13, 2010 19:06:40 GMT
I cannot fathom the mistresses feeling comfortable... But I guess that is because I have never been in their country to experience their culture.
Number 20 just came up and they say the next miner has requested that his wife and mistress be there to greet him.
I am not tuning out at this point, this will be an honest real life experience in human behavior that I might glean knowledge of the culture.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 19:08:03 GMT
It has the potential for being an excellent movie. I just don't want to try to imagine Tom Cruise as a miner.
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Post by Jazz on Oct 13, 2010 19:15:59 GMT
I hope that the movie (and there will be one, if not several) is Chilean with Chilean actors. Many books will come from this, each miner has his own fascinating story.
The story is a long way from over. Not until the last man surfaces. Then, like a combat unit in a war who return to peacetime, who knows how this will translate into their futures.
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Post by mich64 on Oct 13, 2010 19:21:18 GMT
I would think of someone like Haviar Bardem and Antonio Banderas,  of course then we would have Selma Hyak and Penelope Cruz, do not know which one would be the mistress.  Excuse me if I have spelled their names incorrectly.  I definitely believe there will be a film made of this. Reporters are now doubtful the wife will be there to greet him as they do not live together, he lives with his mistress apparently. |
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Post by bjd on Oct 13, 2010 19:54:18 GMT
Maybe you all saw the interview with the Chilean film maker who is already in pre-production of "Los 33". So, fortunately, no movie with Spanish movie stars. It sounds more like a documentary.
I must admit that I have been watching this on and off since this afternoon live on the BBC. It is indeed extremely moving each time one of the miners is brought up.
I think one of the reasons that some of these guys have complicated private lives is that the Catholic church has been very powerful in Chile and divorce was not allowed for a long time. Since the end of Pinochet, things have loosened up, but it's still rather a conservative country, at least on the outside. I guess this explains the prayers and the frequent references to God.
One of the things that strikes me a lot too is the great patriotism shown by everyone -- the flags, the cries of Chi-chi-chi Le-Le-Le. I can't imagine that in France!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 19:58:24 GMT
What about Diego Luna, Gael Garcia Bernal and Eduardo Noriega in the film? They are closer to the proper age of a lot of them.
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Post by bjd on Oct 13, 2010 20:03:26 GMT
Why is everybody wearing a hard hat? I mean, they are not in the mine.
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Post by Jazz on Oct 13, 2010 20:05:48 GMT
What about the reality of the moment? (as opposed to possible films).
They are wearing hardhats because it is often a regulation to do so, in the mine or not. This is common on construction sites. Often, when I've been on a film set on a site (mining, construction etc.) you must wear a hardhat in restricted areas. If you don't, you have to leave.
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Post by fumobici on Oct 13, 2010 23:31:15 GMT
I cannot fathom the mistresses feeling comfortable... But I guess that is because I have never been in their country to experience their culture. Number 20 just came up and they say the next miner has requested that his wife and mistress be there to greet him. I am not tuning out at this point, this will be an honest real life experience in human behavior that I might glean knowledge of the culture. I cannot fathom the mistresses feeling comfortable... But I guess that is because I have never been in their country to experience their culture. Number 20 just came up and they say the next miner has requested that his wife and mistress be there to greet him. I am not tuning out at this point, this will be an honest real life experience in human behavior that I might glean knowledge of the culture. OK, I'm doing the math and I'm not seeing how this crazy Latin wife + mistress thing works out. Do their wives routinely also keep lovers on the side? Are there massively more men than women? Do men share mistresses? Do the mistresses also have boyfriends? Are there a whole class of men (presumably poor ones by the local standard) who have neither? Do you then need a (inexpensive!) prostitute class to service those? And wouldn't having a wife and mistress just mean 2x the nagging? Why? It's crazy. |
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 14, 2010 4:13:48 GMT
I missed the last half of the rescues, and was so relieved to hear when the last miner was safely taken out of the mine. These BIG pictures from Boston.com are great. You'll marvel all over again at the bravery of the men who volunteered to climb inside that little bitty tube to go down and help the trapped miners out. www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/10/rescued_from_a_chilean_mine.html |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2010 8:06:50 GMT
Fantastic pictures, but they make my imagination run even more wild about things that could have gone wrong.
For example, seeing the capsule at the bottom, somewhat crooked on obviously no real base to keep it straight. Imagine this: you're the very last person down there, you get in the capsule, close the door and are ready to be hauled up. They start to pull on the capsule, but something shifts and it gets snagged. You can't open the door because it is already part way in the tube, and they can't get the capsule up, even though they keep pulling until the cable snaps. Then what?
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Post by onlymark on Oct 14, 2010 10:42:39 GMT
The capsule falls the few feet to the floor, clearing the door. You open it and get out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2010 11:07:59 GMT
Such an optimist! What about the dripping calcifications cementing the capsule in place forever?
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Post by onlymark on Oct 14, 2010 13:50:57 GMT
That'd take time. Unless the person is a very slow thinker. Like glacial in its time scale.
You might have problems though judging from the length of time you spend standing in front of the open fridge door trying to decide whether to eat your sausage or not.
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 14, 2010 16:23:46 GMT
No sausages in trapped capsules. Probably no atheists, either. Okay, I know this was mega media saturation, but I'll just post this one little follow-up, okay? It's nice human interest bits on the miners, plus some related links. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 9:10:41 GMT
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 15, 2010 12:16:57 GMT
That'd take time. Unless the person is a very slow thinker. Like glacial in its time scale. You might have problems though judging from the length of time you spend standing in front of the open fridge door trying to decide whether to eat your sausage or not. Is that legal? ;D |
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Post by onlymark on Oct 15, 2010 17:08:37 GMT
Perfectly. But flexibility might be an issue.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 17:32:22 GMT
Is this where it should be mentioned that I read on BBC News today that fellatio causes cancer? (I know it is worthy of "today's medical claim.")
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Post by onlymark on Oct 15, 2010 17:59:43 GMT
I can't believe that.
Sticks in my throat a bit that does.
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 15, 2010 18:22:33 GMT
Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark.
For the fellator or the fellatee, Kerouac?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 18:36:36 GMT
For the giver. Men get papillomavirus on their penises from "ordinary" sex and then pass it on to fellators who can get throat cancer from it.
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Post by onlymark on Oct 15, 2010 19:27:44 GMT
Bit too much information for me, that is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 19:43:02 GMT
Is this the most off topic thread ever or what? Although I would not be a bit surprised to learn that there was a bit of fellatio during the long wait at the bottom of the mine. |
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Post by Jazz on Oct 15, 2010 20:11:05 GMT
The constant images of the cylinder going up and down in the mine shaft appears to have aroused the imaginations of some of our members.
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 16, 2010 7:34:27 GMT
;D ;D ;D
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 17, 2010 1:16:10 GMT
Ohhh ~~ I just fell across this while looking for something else .......
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Post by lagatta on Oct 17, 2010 13:10:08 GMT
Victor Jara (the Chilean singer-songrwriter tortured and murdered in the infamous stadium) also wrote a famous Canción del minero, in such simple Spanish that anyone who speaks a Latin tongue at all can understand it.
LETRA ' CANCIÓN DEL MINERO '
Voy
Vengo
Subo
Bajo
Todo para qué
Nada para mí
Minero soy
A la mina voy
A la muerte voy
Minero soy
Abro
Saco
Sudo
Sangro
Todo pa’l patrón
Nada pa’l dolor
Minero soy
A la mina voy
A la muerte voy
Minero soy
Mira
Oye
Piensa
Grita
Nada es lo peor
Todo es lo mejor
Minero soy
A la mina voy
A la muerte voy
Minero soy
Humano soy
There are also YouTubes, but I can't view them here, so I'll wait until I get to a place where I can, or anyone else is welcome to post them.
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of course then we would have Selma Hyak and Penelope Cruz, do not know which one would be the mistress. 
