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Post by htmb on Nov 2, 2020 20:18:16 GMT
Ah, darn. Sorry to hear that, Kerouac. Hopefully it will be an easy fix.
I must say, I’ve really done a lot to improve my range of motion and reduce inflammation by walking and doing exercises I found on YouTube, plus those given to me before I quit PT at the beginning of the pandemic. The guys I typically follow are funny and a bit corny, but most of what I’ve learned from them has seemed to be spot on. Occasionally they push products. Kind of annoying, but still, they do seem to know their stuff. I’ll find and post one of their videos below.
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Post by htmb on Nov 2, 2020 20:25:54 GMT
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Post by lugg on Nov 2, 2020 20:57:10 GMT
Really feel for you both K2 and Htmb
Mine goes from bad to worse .. bone is now grating on bone ....but there is no way I am having surgery in the current time . So I just try as best I can to keep the tendons and muscles surrounding my knee as strong and as supple as possible. Those guys may be corny Htmb but the exercises they promote are sound and very similar to ones I was taught pre and post op.
Why do you want to postpone surgery Htmb ? I am asking just because that was something that was my goal once , but now , having had surgery I don't want to delay the next knee more than necessary .
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Post by htmb on Nov 2, 2020 21:52:43 GMT
Lugg, other than the obvious reasons, I just wanted to avoid surgery with the hope that, if I put it off long enough, there will eventually be some new and promising non-surgical protocols. The surgery I thought I might need was repair to the medial meniscus, but there was no tear. Thus, no surgery. The ortho doc tells me I do not need a knee replacement at this point. I can still walk several miles at a time without too much of a strain, it was just that I could not go up/down stairs/hills without tremendous pain unless I took them one step at a time. I remember you saying your surgeon told you it was good you hadn’t had cortisone shots before your knee replacement. I thought long and hard about it, but decided to give them a try. Will see how long the relief lasts. In the meantime, I hope to lose some weight and continue to strengthen up my muscles to help better support my joints. By doing that, I’ll at least be in good enough shape when the day comes that I might need my joint replaced..
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Post by lugg on Nov 3, 2020 10:28:27 GMT
The ortho doc tells me I do not need a knee replacement at this point Ah I see - I thought you needed a replacement but were delaying it.
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Post by kerouac2 on Nov 3, 2020 11:36:57 GMT
I just got back from the doctor who told me "wait & see."
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Post by tod2 on Nov 3, 2020 16:52:23 GMT
Kerouac, I know its hard to persuade a doctor to do something he maybe has never attempted before for does not like to do. I say " Do as I ask Doc!" The Cortisone injection into the knee-cap, pre-ceeded by a shot of anaesthetic is marvellous. I would suggest it, then ague the toss if he does not want to. Nothing to it if he is a REAL doctor not just a ninny.
At the moment my left hip is being painful and as I know the signs, another hip replacement is on the cards.
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Post by lugg on Nov 4, 2020 19:05:08 GMT
sorry to read this Tod -- but I agree when you know you know
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 5, 2020 11:19:45 GMT
Got sudden arthritis in my right knee which has totally incapacitated me for now. Anti inflammatories should sort it out by this evening though.
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Post by lugg on Dec 5, 2020 11:36:13 GMT
Feel for you Mick -hoping it is better quickly.
Mine has gone from bad to unbearable, my mobility is now very limited. So bad that I caved and consulted with my GP. I am now rattling from all the medication and feel nauseated and drowsy from it too, but he tells me that will pass. I am now putting Covid to the back of my mind and biting the bullet re hospital appointments. I have virtual physio booked for Thursday to check I am doing my exercises correctly , then X-rays before Xmas and early January an appointment with the surgeon who did my last op. God bless the NHS it can be fantastic. I will then have to wait and see how long I until I can have the surgery, (presuming I need it)
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 5, 2020 11:46:00 GMT
Thanks lugg.
I do hope yours gets sorted quickly. It sounds horrible. Mine is bloody painful but I know it will pass.
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Post by htmb on Dec 5, 2020 13:54:58 GMT
I feel for you both. A painful knee can also affect the rest of your body, causing places to ache when they didn’t before. I hope you each get some relief soon.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 5, 2020 14:48:38 GMT
My knee phase seems to have gone away, but this was the longest it ever lasted... until next time. Something might have to be done about it sooner or later.
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Post by htmb on Dec 5, 2020 15:08:45 GMT
It’s been over a month since I had my cortisone injection and I’ve been very pleased with the results. The pain relief has been enormous and it’s allowed me to get back to living a more normal life. I hadn’t realized how much had been affected by the pain in my knee. I hadn’t slept well in months and just about every part of my body below the waist hurt from overcompensation. I know the underlying issue of the arthritis is still present (in both knees), but this reprieve has given me a chance to continue working to strengthen muscle and improve overall health. Relief from the injection could last for three months, or three years. I still have some pain, and carrying things up and down stairs is tricky, but I’m hoping to see gradual improvement as I rebuild the muscle mass.
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Post by mossie on Dec 5, 2020 15:59:35 GMT
My commiserations to all you joint sufferers, my wife had both knees replaced so I know it is not pleasant. I had a hip replaced some years ago and the relief was immediate and very welcome. The other one gave trouble in sympathy for a while but has quietened down and is hopefully forgotten. I do get pain and stiffness in my lower legs and ankles, I asked the surgeon who did my hip if they did ankles but he swiftly dodged that, so I still hobble about and moan. I'll live, but as i tell anyone who will listen " getting old is not good for you"
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 5, 2020 16:06:51 GMT
One of the most famous quotes of Charles de Gaulle was "La vieillesse est un naufrage." = Old age is a shipwreck.
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 5, 2020 18:15:51 GMT
Bette Davies - old age is not for sissies.
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Post by casimira on Dec 6, 2020 3:51:44 GMT
After hiking up and down wooded, at times, skinny bare rooted trails today my right knee and some other muscles are just sore, sore, sore. I was using muscles I haven't used in a long time as we have no hills in NOLA. Thank goodness my new bargain yard sale find Doc Martin boots were up to the task and held the ground so well or I am sure I would have skidded and fallen. I also found a really good walking stick at the start of the trail that some kind soul or wood nymph must have put there just for me. I took a Naproxyn a little while ago with the hopes it will calm it down. I don't have the energy to take a hot soothing bath.
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 6, 2020 8:32:34 GMT
Yup, I took Naproxen and knee a lot better this morning.
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Post by lugg on Dec 6, 2020 11:03:18 GMT
Yup, I took Naproxen and knee a lot better this morning. That's good news Mick The pain relief has been enormous and it’s allowed me to get back to living a more normal life. More good news Htmb. I think that I may have to have one but waiting to see my surgeon in Jan first to get his advice. I also found a really good walking stick at the start of the trail that some kind soul or wood nymph must have put there just for me. Perfectly placed gift. Hope you are less sore today.
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Post by casimira on Dec 6, 2020 13:59:45 GMT
The Naproxyn really did the trick for me. (always be sure and take these with food as they will do a number on one's stomach). Thanks Lugg!
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 6, 2020 14:34:08 GMT
Mine come with another tablet to calm the stomach.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 6, 2020 22:40:38 GMT
My son (39) is having a lot of knee pain. His consultant said that arthritis was quite common for crohns sufferers...another auto immune condition. Poor little bugger.
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 6, 2020 23:36:49 GMT
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Post by lugg on Dec 7, 2020 20:26:37 GMT
My son (39) is having a lot of knee pain. His consultant said that arthritis was quite common for crohns sufferers...another auto immune condition. Poor little bugger. .. awful for him Cheery; has he had a referral to a rheumatologist ? The Crohn's and Colitis UK group have highlighted that this should happen, but also that it does not in some cases. but I guess you probably know this already .
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Post by lugg on Dec 7, 2020 20:32:05 GMT
Whilst I would never decry the use of natural / vitamin etc supplements ...the problem is that is very little research that has been rigorous enough to weight one supplement's benefits against another. There is a very good piece of research evidence for osteo- arthritis of the knee in relation to glucosamine and chondroitin supplements which I have saved somewhere and can post if anyone wants to read it.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 7, 2020 20:49:02 GMT
My knee and related ailmsnts have magically returned to normal. This can last one week, one month or one year. I never know.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 8, 2020 21:53:03 GMT
Russell hasn't had a face to face with his consultant for over a year, he's been advised not to risk going to the hospital, on public transport,to shops etc until his medical team feel it's safe. He's had a few telephone consultations but he will have to wait for a referral to rheumatology.
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Post by mich64 on Dec 11, 2020 4:28:50 GMT
Back in May, while on a daily walk with my husband, I fell landing on my right knee. Aided by my husband, I was able to return home where we bandaged it and applied ice (actually it was a frozen bag of peas). The following few days it swelled and the pain was intense. I remember I was pretty much homebound for a couple of weeks until I could tolerate limping around. This continued on for most of the summer until my father-in-law suggested I use his Dr. Ho treatment.
My husband brought it home and placed one pad on the side and the other underneath my knee and turned it on. The currents surged through my knee, it felt pretty good actually. You can alternate the surge patterns, the intensity and time. I would then put the bag of peas on my knee. I am happy to report that after months of treatments, I think my knee is finally back to normal. I do not think that anything structurally happened from the fall, it was deep tissue swelling that was taking so long to heal due to not being able to take any anti inflammatory products.
Two weeks ago, I had another incident and this time it was my back. I spent about 8 hours in Emerge at the hospital, received excellent care. Once they had my pain managed, I had a CT scan and x-rays and was discharged with a prescription muscle relaxant and to expect a call on Monday morning for an appointment for an MRI. The MRI diagnosis was arthritis in my spine but the pain was muscle/inflammation/swelling related. I am happy to report that although I will have to wait to go to physical therapy (COVID causing reduced appointments), my husband has been putting the Dr. Ho pads on either side of my lower back then applying ice packs, I am feeling relief.
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 11, 2020 4:43:55 GMT
Wonderful news, Mich! I imagine you were quite nervous about getting the MRI results.
Never heard of Dr. Ho pads, but they sound as though they work on the same principal as a tens unit.
re: ice packs -- you might want to think about keeping small dried beans (or lentils or rice) in your freezer for use as ice packs. The bags will not sweat the way frozen peas do and they can be refrozen with no harm to the contents, should you wish to eat them later.
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