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Post by apres on Mar 26, 2012 2:17:00 GMT
Amazing how quickly the redevelopment is being done. What a huge difference in such a short amount of time. I suppose the import/export businesses will eventually move further afield. Such an interesting set of photos, I'm looking forward to the next installment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 11:30:54 GMT
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Post by bjd on Sept 12, 2013 15:12:00 GMT
Aha, fast fashion made in China.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 16:34:19 GMT
I think I mentioned it somewhere earlier on the thread, but Aubervilliers is the second largest Chinese city in France after Paris.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2014 11:53:04 GMT
One of these days, I'll make yet another update...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 13:28:55 GMT
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Post by fumobici on Aug 26, 2015 15:54:50 GMT
Good, a place for all the Chinese clothing storefronts in the 11th with no customers ever, just bored looking employees loitering on the sidewalks smoking or playing with their phones that create dead zones within the city with few actual operating businesses. I assume these storefronts are just to have a Paris address to put on their promotional literature. Maybe Paris could annex places like this in the outlying suburbs so they could have their Paris addresses without actually having to occupy so much choice street level retail space in the actual city.
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Post by bjd on Aug 26, 2015 16:50:17 GMT
I thought of that too, Fumobici. Boulevard Voltaire in particular is horrible for that. In fact, the 11th arrondissement municipal authorities tried to prevent Chinese from buying out all those storefronts, so that regular businesses would be able to rent them or buy them. It doesn't look as though they were very successful.
Every time I go along there two things cross my mind: who would ever buy those hideous clothes? and, how many sweatshops are hidden in the back courtyards and upper floors of those buildings?
There is also part of the 3rd with Chinese wholesale shops for leather goods and costume jewellery.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 5:05:59 GMT
Just like the traditional Jewish merchants of the garment district, the Chinese are torn between staying in Paris and moving to Aubervilliers. However, Aubervilliers definitely has the upper hand now, with plenty of room to expand. It will take a new generation, though, for the older places to move out of Paris, especially when the premises are owned by the companies and there is not much ambition for expansion. Renters will decide to leave faster. In any case, Aubervilliers has hit the jackpot since it is now the home of more than 1000 textile companies, including the Chinese importers that supply chains such as Carrefour.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 19:15:34 GMT
We now have an Anyport member who works in lovely Aubervilliers.
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Post by whatagain on Oct 13, 2015 20:03:18 GMT
Must say a lot of pics look quite familiar. About at least a dozen taken from about 500 m from my office...
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Post by chexbres on Oct 14, 2015 7:59:17 GMT
Forgive me if I'm being argumentative (and just blame the weather and my current diet), but are posts #36 and #37 suggesting that Paris should be reserved for French enterprises??? If this were upheld, given the current state of "zero-croissance", almost all those storefronts run by foreigners would be vacant...
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Post by whatagain on Oct 14, 2015 15:43:26 GMT
Good point Chexbres (what a name...).
as for clothes, I've stopped asking myself who would wear what. (but my daughters start telling me why I put this with that)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 16:27:34 GMT
Oh, I think that people who love Paris just keep hoping for the Paris of Gigi to somehow come back, even when they know it is not possible. But it is true that one rarely hears the same complaints about a McDonald's or a Starbuck being on every corner of the city.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 6:21:23 GMT
It won't be long now until the Véolia building is finished ("mid-2016"). The cornerstone was laid on 16 October 2014. 2000 white collar workers are probably gritting their teeth at the idea of going to Aubervilliers.
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Post by lola on Feb 16, 2016 11:52:20 GMT
Thanks, K. Let them grit their teeth.
I like zones. And I certainly complain about Starbucks, KFC, etc, on every corner no matter where. I mutter, anyway.
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Post by sax on Jan 10, 2018 18:35:18 GMT
Hi, So impressed by how this district change faces in this short time i was in CIFA last month even CIFA change name it's called now www.parisfashionshops.com As i seen in your photo the fashioncenter as an website also fashioncenterparis.com may be very soon all these shops will become only online seller. Digital part will change this district again and may be one day some middle class worker gonna be living here when all these shops move away.
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Post by leventdelanuit on Apr 27, 2019 15:24:15 GMT
Since 2014, I am researching this truly fascinating area, in particular the triangle that is shaped by the Seine, Avenue Victor Hugo and Boulevard MacDonald. This patch of industrial wasteland truly is/was a delight to any student of Geography! Does anyone have photographs from the time there was a large gypsy camp behind “La Station – Gare des Mines”? Soon, the area will be just another anonymous and utterly dull neighbourhood: the lucrative mix of residential, commercial and office space that minimises entrepreneurial risk and therefore is popular among property speculators. When the Chinese textile companies will move to the brand-new centre in Tremblay-en-France, their shops and warehouses will make place for apartment buildings. The future “Aimé Césaire” tube station will no doubt fuel this process of gentrification. Although I was particularly fond of the circus on Place Skanderbeg, I rather appreciate Chanel’s initiative. Unlike its neighbour Veolia, Chanel -of all brands- at least builds a workshop, thereby respecting the area’s reputation of manufacturing. Though nothing can replace a circus and its tigers. Isn't it remarkable that a bit further, on Boulevard MacDonald, across La Villette, there is a circus school? P.S. Last year, “Galerie Lumière des Roses” (Montreuil) published “La Zone”, a collection of black-and-white photographs of the slums that were razed for Paris’ ring road.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 27, 2019 16:35:59 GMT
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Post by leventdelanuit on May 19, 2019 9:27:20 GMT
Crammed between the Boulevard Périphérique, Av. du Président Wilson and the "magasins généraux" lies a charming cemetery. It is an oasis of tranquillity. Though situated in Seine Saint-Denis, the cemetery belongs to the City of Paris and, therefore, only residents of Paris may be buried here. There are two wardens, a cat and a colony of chickens.
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Post by mickthecactus on May 19, 2019 10:02:20 GMT
Do the cat and the chickens get on?!
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Post by leventdelanuit on May 19, 2019 14:29:21 GMT
Oddly enough they do! The cat belongs to the cemetery. The chickens, however, do not: they belong to the owner of the garage next-door. The cemetery wardens dislike the chickens who wander amid the gravestones, but their owner does not care: he is speculating. He hopes a property investor will buy his plot of land and building. At the other side of the cemetary, hidden between the wall and the "magasins généraux" lies an abandoned railway track. Gypsies once set up a camp on this track. Contrary to common belief, the gypsies did not steal the iron from the old graves. The cemetery is at a stone's throw from "Crack Hill" and the refugee settlement. But inside the idyllic cemetary there is no trace of those scenes.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 21, 2019 14:43:52 GMT
I will definitely visit that cemetery soon, but I also want to take the new bus line 45 to the section of Aubervilliers with which I am not familiar, although I'm pretty sure I know where it goes. I think I saw the area from the other side of the canal when I did my Canal Saint Denis report.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 26, 2019 13:18:58 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on May 26, 2019 13:28:13 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on May 26, 2019 18:40:52 GMT
One of the things I really admire about Paris is how it makes sure that there is plenty of green space and lots of trees everywhere. But that mental image makes these photos of the new area look pretty bleak by comparison. I imagine as things get finished, there will be some landscaping and natural areas. The grass in the lunch area and the expanse of canal water already soften the brittle new look.
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Post by lagatta on May 26, 2019 19:11:00 GMT
Some suburbs, and not only the posh ones in the west, have an admiable tree canopy and other greening. Paris proper has a strong greening policy, but alas environmentally-important initiatives such as the circle tram do involve felling some mature trees. s20.postimg.cc/vwzn2e1d9/sad.png
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Post by kerouac2 on May 26, 2019 20:23:28 GMT
Actually, they have planted trees absolutely everywhere in the redeveloped zones of Aubervilliers. But they are barely more than twigs at the moment. They need to be seen again 20 years from now.
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Post by leventdelanuit on May 27, 2019 6:23:55 GMT
I'm preparing a separate thread on the area that will host the university campus. "Front Popular" is an area with a quite interesting history (and makes part of my research).
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Post by kerouac2 on May 27, 2019 12:38:25 GMT
Cool. Before leaving Front Populaire, I decided to take a look at some of the converted old warehouses, most of which are now television studios, the kind where cooking shows or antique shows are filmed, not to mention countless shopping channels. i.postimg.cc/q7fPTJH1/Aubervilliers_2019-05_048.jpg ecape i.postimg.cc/Nj23SySy/Aubervilliers_2019-05_049.jpgi.postimg.cc/bJp4ZmJb/Aubervilliers_2019-05_050.jpg i.postimg.cc/vmWp8JQb/Aubervilliers_2019-05_051.jpgi.postimg.cc/DwjwVDC0/Aubervilliers_2019-05_041.jpgi.postimg.cc/hv1K23zS/Aubervilliers_2019-05_045.jpgSome companies choose atypical buildings for their local corporate headquarters, such as this fast food chain. i.postimg.cc/RVvSW9yq/Aubervilliers_2019-05_046.jpgi.postimg.cc/qBsBBgm9/Aubervilliers_2019-05_047.jpgEvery now and then, one encouters a suprising untouched parcel of land, perhaps just gathering value before the big sale. i.postimg.cc/rpDFqJbJ/Aubervilliers_2019-05_052.jpgBack at the metro, they were encasing an entrance in a vegetal sheath. i.postimg.cc/5tD9yzWM/Aubervilliers_2019-05_042.jpgI'll have to see what it looks like when they are finished. i.postimg.cc/nrJHYtLR/Aubervilliers_2019-05_043.jpgMeanwhile, yesterday in Aubervilliers more land was cleared a bit sooner than planned. Luckily, it was a just a disused warehouse.
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