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Post by Kimby on Dec 30, 2016 18:58:40 GMT
(My) last word on it: "ignorant" feels to me like a descriptor of a person's character, whereas "uninformed" seems more like a temporary condition that can be remedied. Perhaps the difference between English and French accounts for our different usages of these words.
I also don't know "Alf", (no kids) but we have watched a lot of good children's movies over the years, most recently Jungle Book, with CG animation that blew me away.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 20:03:13 GMT
Sorry, my life is shortening every day, no time to watch crap. I've never seen a Fast and Furious, saw the first Stars Wars sometime in the 90s and decided that was enough, hate RomComs, and have only been able to stomach 1 1/4 Tarantinos. Films are expensive, they take up precious time, and I enjoy many other kinds of art and entertainment.
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Post by lagatta on Dec 31, 2016 0:47:24 GMT
I see a lot of films related to festivals I work for. In particular one on contemporary Indigenous cultures in the Americas and worldwide. Also watch other films, but as Lizzyfaire says, they are expensive (and I live on a shoestring) and am involved in a lot of cultural stuff.
There are of course other reasons, related to critiques in Le Monde diplomatique in the day about the ideological role of such blockbusters, but there is no point in belabouring the matter. We have no duty to be interested in such and such a genre or cultural phenomenon, unless we have concrete reasons. Nobody can view everything; all of us make choices.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 2:26:40 GMT
Well stated Lagatta, Grazie.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 6:10:14 GMT
And yet the sociological information contained in these films allows people such as Donald Trump to be elected, leaving the opposition clueless and able only to wring its hands in confusion at the power of the ideological message that "came out of nowhere." I will not be an ostrich. The fact that George Lucas lifted several scenes of the original Star Wars directly out of Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will was the first clue as to how modern generations are being manipulated by these films.
When teens said "oh that scene at the end of Star Wars was so cool when Carrie Fisher decorates Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill," you, rather than saying "oh I never go see that kind of movie," it might have been more useful to be able to say "I hope you understand that Carrie Fisher is standing in for Adolf Hitler in that scene." When the younger generations get most of their political 'information' from Hollywood, Twitter and YouTube, those of you who have "better things to do" are completely unable to debate with them or relate to their world -- and they will be completely in charge of many aspects of your lives faster than you think. Welcome to post truth!
You can now go back to congratulating each other, with or without "ignorance" of the important things that are at stake in popular culture.
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Post by Kimby on Dec 31, 2016 14:43:36 GMT
And to think some of us watch movies for a couple hours of escapism from the woes of the real world....
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 31, 2016 15:23:02 GMT
Of course it is everyones right to watch or to avoid certain movies or genres. I admit again that I avoid movies that are I feel might be too emotionally devastating. I don't care for spy anything. Also, I totally don't get the zombie thing and am mystified as to why anyone would enjoy it. That said, I admire people who can brace themselves to view the "difficult" movies I won't watch, and I know that I've missed out on some good entertainment or thought-provoking movies because of my inability to keep up with spy plots. As for zombies, that just has to go into the large pile of stuff I don't get but don't object to, either.
My point is that whatever ones reasons are for not liking a particular art form, dismissing it out of hand in a way that denigrates the taste of those who do enjoy it (or who are at least willing to give it a chance) leaves one wide open to the charge of being close-minded and lacking in imagination.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2016 15:37:06 GMT
Well, it is generally accepted that the first "zombie" movie was the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers and that its real subject was the subversive communist threat to America. The whole point of the cinema is that it is secretly political and is always pushing some sort of agenda. Of course a lot of these movies, in America and in most of the countries of the world -- particularly the comedies and romantic comedies -- are there to convince you that everything is fine and that you should adhere to all of the values of the country in which you live. Even though I have said that I find it important to see movies with which I do not agree because I think it is more important to learn what is in them, I have my own idiosyncratic boycotts and have never been able to watch such movies as It's a Wonderful Life or The Sound of Music. I hope to get around to seeing them before I die.
I do understand the desire for escapism, Kimby, and at least half of the people I know see movies only for that reason, but I myself do not think that escape is possible, so I want to learn about all of the things in the world about which I know little or nothing. And that's why I see so many movies from totally obscure or unpopular countries. I have gotten much more out of them than from The Notebook (which, yes, made me cry just like most people) or from When Harry Met Sally.
It might be interesting if people at Anyport decided to give us a list of movies that they have found important or rewarding in any way (not on this thread!) and explain why. It would be better than saying "I don't like xyz but in any case I have never seen any xyz movie."
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Post by Kimby on Dec 31, 2016 17:35:44 GMT
Does such a thread exist, K2, or were you soliciting for someone to start it? (Not volunteering, just asking.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 16:54:09 GMT
So, Disney is going to receive $50 million in insurance money for the death of Carrie Fisher. They can certainly create a CGI General Leia with that amount for Star Wars IX (luckily Star Wars VIII was already completed before she died).
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 3, 2017 19:08:00 GMT
Dern. The Force is definitely with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 20:52:22 GMT
Goodbye, Mary Tyler Moore.
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Post by Kimby on Jan 25, 2017 22:01:37 GMT
One of our family's favorites. Especially loved her in the Dick Van Dyke show. "Rrrrobbbb!"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 4:46:53 GMT
I think we all have memories of the days when the whole family watched television together.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 5:49:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 12:59:59 GMT
John Hurt's loss makes me sadder than Mary Tyler Moore's, anyday. So many brilliant performances. I watched The Naked Civil Servant on Youtube last night.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 13:33:41 GMT
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Post by lagatta on Jan 28, 2017 15:41:50 GMT
I loved her, but was sorry that almost the only roles for senior women are as grandmother or other ancestor, or dying, being enfeebled or both.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 16:05:26 GMT
Hiroshima Mon Amour was seminal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 16:26:49 GMT
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Post by lagatta on Jan 28, 2017 19:10:51 GMT
Yes, it was magnificent, and she remained just as lovely (and I don't mean only physically) in her great age. Did she do a lot of theatre? I've always been very fond of her as a thespian, and don't remember a great many films. Looking it up, I see that she had a great many roles in cinema, but not necessarily leading roles: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuelle_Riva
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 20:27:45 GMT
Goodbye Bill Paxton (age 61). You never did find that big diamond on the Titanic.
And you have probably sent the Oscar editing room into a frenzy today so that you can be included in the list of movie people who died since the last ceremony.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 18:20:33 GMT
Goodness gracious, how could I have missed this?
Jonathan Demme, film director, Stop Making Sense, Philadelphia, Silence of the Lambs , and many more incredible creations, mega documentaries, left us, age 73.
I was a HUGE fan of his work and know some people here that worked with him, all of whom spoke so praisingly of everything about him, most especially, his humility, and generosity.
A great loss.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 23, 2017 14:00:12 GMT
Goodbye, Roger Moore. You were a saint.
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Post by onlyMark on Jun 5, 2017 17:15:10 GMT
Peter Sallis.
The voice of Wallace in Wallace and Gromit and one of the Last of the Summer Wine for many, many years. A distinctive voice that fitted his roles perfectly. The end of an era.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 15:19:05 GMT
I 'm not familiar with him Mark.
Glenne Headly died .Only age 63I I always admired her work and she had a very interesting look about her. (I never knew she was married to John Malkovitch) She performed many works on stage as well as TV and the silver screen.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 28, 2017 4:38:57 GMT
Swedish actor Michael Nykvist, age 56. He was the star of the "real" Millennium movies, not the remakes with Daniel Craig. Lung cancer.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 17, 2017 3:49:21 GMT
I see that Martin Landau and George Romero have checked out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 17:30:06 GMT
American actor, John Heard dead at age 71. So very young.
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Post by Kimby on Jul 24, 2017 0:07:32 GMT
Heard, best known for the Home Alone movies, didn't want to be typecast for those roles. He also had a role in The Sopranos as a detective, but they killed him off before he was ready...
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