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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2016 14:40:34 GMT
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Post by patricklondon on Dec 27, 2016 7:25:34 GMT
Not sure this quite counts as "silver" screen, though she did appear as Maggie Smith's mother in the cinema movie A Private Function, but another death over Christmas was that of Liz Smith at 95, best known for her performance in The Vicar of Dibley as Mrs Cropley, the eccentric organist and even more eccentic cook, and above all for her Nana in The Royle Family, but a familiar face from a great many TV plays and comedies. And her acting career didn't even start till she was 50! www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/gallery/2016/dec/27/liz-smith-a-life-in-picturesMy blog | My photos | My video clips"too literate to be spam"
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 27, 2016 16:13:33 GMT
I knew her as Zillah on Lark Rise to Candleford. She looked a million years old in that & in fact the character died at the end of season one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 18:10:05 GMT
Goodbye, Carrie Fisher. It's a good thing they already figured out how to resurrect Peter Cushing to play in Rogue One, because I think that Princess Leia is kind of necessary to some of the upcoming films unless they let Adam Driver do the same thing to her as he did to his father.
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 27, 2016 18:43:48 GMT
Just saw that obituary on bbc news. For zillions of kids who grew up in the 70s, along with those parents who took their 70s kids to the original Star Wars, Princess Leia will forever live in our hearts.
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Post by Kimby on Dec 27, 2016 18:49:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 5:22:08 GMT
One of the Paris newspapers chose Yoda formulation for this morning's headline: Gone She Is
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Post by lagatta on Dec 28, 2016 14:58:07 GMT
Michèle Morgan - and Zsa Zsa - were so much of times past that I didn't know either was still alive. Morgan was grateful to be out of occupied France but hated the Hollywood machine.
I don't think I've ever seen Carrie Fisher in anything. I'm among those who deliberately didn't watch anything to do with Star Wars in the 1970s; it was a point of pride back then. It is too bad that she wasn't allowed to grow into adult roles; this has been the case for many women in film.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 17:42:03 GMT
I validated myself through negation until I was about 25 years old. Then I decided that I could not credibly criticise things that I had never seen unless there was a valid political reason to boycott them. And you never know if your political inclinations about such things are valid unless you go ahead and see it anyway. (I will never forget how Jane Fonda claimed that Cimino's The Deer Hunter was a militaristic atrocity although she had not seen it.) So I see lots of things that I think are not my "cup of tea" to be able to talk about them with a certain validity (keeping in mind that I do not actually have to pay anything extra no matter how many movies I see -- but even if this were not the case, I would not be prevented from watching them on television).
Therefore, besides seeing Carrie Fisher in all of the Star Wars movies, I have also seen her in quite a few other movies, where she often did a fine job. Probably the last movie was the Canadian Maps to the Stars, which was extraordinary, even though she had a small role.
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Post by lagatta on Dec 28, 2016 19:24:28 GMT
Actually, I was under 25 when that film came out. I don't think I'd feel quite the same nowadays, but I do try to avoid Hollywood blockbusters. So many other things to see.
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 29, 2016 3:09:33 GMT
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Post by lagatta on Dec 29, 2016 12:55:22 GMT
We don't know anything about her health (except the obvious biological fact that she was elderly) and of course many will wonder if her daughter's untimely death was the last straw. Yes, sad.
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Post by Kimby on Dec 29, 2016 13:49:01 GMT
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Post by Kimby on Dec 29, 2016 13:50:11 GMT
Good God Almighty -- now Debbie Reynolds is gone!!! And there are three days left in this grim effing year. Wrap Betty White in bubble wrap...
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Post by lagatta on Dec 29, 2016 15:23:18 GMT
Yes, I read the same thing in the Guardian. It is terrible for parents to lose a child, of course in childhood but even an adult child. I remember when a friend lost her little boy to leukaemia, about 30 years ago when we were both young adults.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 15:26:08 GMT
I never saw any of the Star Wars movies either. That genre never appealed to me. I'm with Lagatta, "too many other good things to see".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 17:04:14 GMT
There is one huge error of logic in that statement.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 14:37:00 GMT
There is one huge error of logic in that statement. Might you expound on what you are saying please?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 14:44:07 GMT
Being critical of a movie (or series of same) that one has never seen is an automatic invalidation.
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Post by Kimby on Dec 30, 2016 14:57:10 GMT
Different strokes, K2. If a person knows they don't generally like big blockbuster fantasy Sci-FI flicks, why should they spend the time and money to watch one? If it turns out to be the best film in 40 years, that's their loss, right? No skin off our noses. ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 15:00:16 GMT
I thought that is what you meant based on one of your previous posts expressing the same sentiment but, in this case I validate my sentiment by saying that I don't care for this particular genre.
And, I saw enough clips of this series over the years to reinforce this. Another example of this is why I never got into the Star Trek series.
Edited after seeing Kimby's reply, exactly my point.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 15:40:39 GMT
And that's why people miss out on so much -- being so sure of their ignorant opinions. To be fair, I have seen all of the Star Wars movies and most of them are absolute shit. I think I liked the first two of them (now called episodes 4 & 5). The latest one (episode 7) was just about acceptable. But do you have any idea why I hold my opinion? Can we ever debate the subject? Is there a movie that you can offer as a "rebuttal" to this genre? I see all of the other movies, too, which you probably know if you ever take a look at "what is the last movie you saw?" Today I saw a very interesting Cambodian movie. What do you think of that genre?
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Post by Kimby on Dec 30, 2016 15:52:59 GMT
"Ignorant" is a loaded word, and I wish you'd chosen another, like "uninformed" perhaps.
There are more movies made than hours to watch them. We all filter our choices in our own ways. Mr. Kimby keeps a list (on alphabetized index cards) of films that got good reviews, no matter the genre, and those are the ones we watch.
People who have a life beyond watching movies have to make choices. Casi has her priorities, I have mine and you have yours. I like it that we share our opinions of films that we see on this forum and hope that now and then someone sees a good film that they otherwise wouldn't have, and ends up loving it.
Back to obits, a double funeral is being planned for Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 16:04:44 GMT
Thank you Kimby for trying to qualify what I'm saying. Obtuse comes to mind somehow. Baited is another.
Back to the OP. There is going to be a huge "second line" parade this afternoon put on by a group of some intergalactic something or other. Anything to celebrate and honor, NOLA is the place to be.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 16:11:00 GMT
Anything other than a double funeral would have been ridiculous.
Nobody has time to see every movie made. There are about 12 new movies a week here. Maybe 8 of them elicit a bit of interest in me, and I am lucky if I see 5 of them. And of course that is a shitload more than most people, 2 or 3 of them turn out to be sort of a waste of time, and then there are the incredible discoveries. Who would have thought that I discovered that I absolutely love Iranian, Romanian and Georgian cinema? I was ignorant before I got a chance to see such things, and I do not consider "ignorant" to be a derogatory word at all. It means what it means: lacking in knowledge. If you prefer "uninformed," so be it, although that is a bit more negative, because it implies that someone needs to inform you and that you are not able to obtain information by yourself.
Of course I hope that both Kimby and Casimira understand that one of my missions here is to get people to debate a bit and not just put oil on a mutual admiration society where everybody automatically approves what everybody else says. Yes, I know that we should all just have a group hug (along with President Trump) and accept everything that anybody else says or does.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 16:23:00 GMT
You say you saw a very interesting Cambodian movie and asked what did I think of that genre.
How does a Cambodian movie qualify as a genre? Were there robots or spaceships? Was it a musical? Was it a war movie? A Romance movie? Perhaps it was a documentary.
DE GUSTIBUS NON EST DISPUTANDUM
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 16:33:40 GMT
It's nice if you have finally understood that rather than being critical of things that you have not even seen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 16:42:06 GMT
Kerouac, I think all that mezcal may have had a detrimental effect on your thought processes
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Post by bixaorellana on Dec 30, 2016 16:52:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 17:13:46 GMT
Sorry to hear this but, have no idea who this is.
Again, another genre I never embraced.
(those with children of that decade/generation, as with many other films, most likely had a lot more exposure to these movies and characters).
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