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Post by onlymark on Sept 21, 2011 17:17:03 GMT
You are reasonably settled in the country you live in but you have a yearning from time to time to move. You can't quite decide where but there are several things that are quite important to you like would you live longer or would you have more money or a better job? What about your kids? Would they have a better life in that they are outside more or eat less fast food? Let's say you decide that you'd like to seriously think of moving to errrr.... Jordan from errr... France. Did you know that if you lived in Jordan you would - use 76.75% less electricity, be 75% less likely to have AIDS/HIV, spend 87.28% less on healthcare............... What about moving from Canada to Germany? If Germany were your home instead of Canada you would... have 22% more free time, spend over 5% less money on healthcare but make 11% less money................ You can play with this for hours (or at least I can) - www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/listing/JOFiddle around with it and change the countries. It does though first detect which country you are in. More in a minute.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 17:22:30 GMT
Dammit, it is really hard to get rid of Jordan on your link!
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Post by onlymark on Sept 21, 2011 17:36:22 GMT
The HSBC did a survey of a thousand or so expats and gathered together all the data from their countries to produce the following - www.expatexplorer.hsbc.com/#/countriesOpen the boxes for the criteria and select what is important to you. It will then display the 'best' country for you to live in. For example, lets say a healthy diet is the most important. Apparently you need to live in Spain. More disposable income? - Russia. Select several criteria and it will adjust as necessary, say health care and sports are a priority. The Bermuda is the place for you. Obviously it is not exhaustive and probably not all that accurate, but worth a look at. I'm off to Spain for a week from Friday so when I come back I'll see if any of you decide you want to move.
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Post by onlymark on Sept 21, 2011 17:39:58 GMT
K2, click France in the list below (or the country you want) on the first page. Then in the new screen click "Compare France to other countries." and select the other country.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2011 17:50:11 GMT
Thanks, but I figured it out. I am not a total cretin, in spite of appearances.
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Post by onlymark on Sept 21, 2011 18:49:25 GMT
The opposite of me then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2011 13:56:39 GMT
I don't consider myself an expat, but it looks like living in France is what suits me best for what I consider important. (health care, culture, education, food, leisure time -- among others -- and NOT things like domestic staff, luxurious vacations or high income)
I got an interestling list of 1. France 2. Belgium 3. Spain 4. Canada 5. Germany
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Post by bjd on Sept 23, 2011 16:08:25 GMT
I'm not an expat either, but I got the same list as onlyMark.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2011 16:35:46 GMT
He hasn't told us his results or criteria yet.
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Post by bjd on Sept 23, 2011 16:58:43 GMT
Well, if you only check all the economic boxes (big car, swimming pool, etc) you get Russia as first choice, as I discovered when I first clicked on the box -- it was the default setting. As soon as you ask for health care or good schools, Russia drops to the bottom.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2011 17:28:02 GMT
The whole point is to unclick the default and check your own most important criteria -- unless your point is to see which countries you should avoid.
I certainly did not click on "nicer cars" or "organising finances". However, I might go back and click on some stuff I didn't select the first time, such as "work/life balance" or "making friends" (which is a somewhat arbitrary criterium and quite certainly invalid).
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 23, 2011 20:54:10 GMT
I am defeated by the link. I thought Kerouac's tip in #10 would be the answer, but now I can't even get back to the page where you check own criteria. It keeps giving me different countries to explore, instead.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2011 21:10:02 GMT
Click on: www.expatexplorer.hsbc.com/#/countriesClose "Welcome to Expat Explorer." Wait for "The Expat Explorer Survey" to load. Unclick the "economics" box. Expand it to see the list. Click what interests you, and then do the same for "experience" and "offspring". (Try to ignore the syntax errors.) Obtain results. However, this is really weird -- as a joke, I clicked on "swimming pool" in economics, "organising finances" in experience and "my children are eating less junk food now" in offspring, and I still got the following results: 1. France 2. Spain 3. Singapore 4. Australia 5. Germany
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 23, 2011 22:12:24 GMT
Except for Thailand & Malaysia, my top four results bear NO relationship to places where I'd actually care to live! Many of them wouldn't be that high on places to visit, unless I got a free trip or something. I guess I shouldn't say that, right?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2011 23:22:35 GMT
Well, you're just going to have to go anyway. I hope you have packed your bags.
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Post by lagatta on Sept 25, 2011 1:21:36 GMT
I don't quite see how it works. Canada is the default country this week, but then it compares Canada to the US (where I have zero desire to live, much as I hate winter).
I don't see how I compare Canada to France, Germany or Italy where I might possibly live. (one has to speak the language, after all).
And as for their comparisons, where I live in Québec is poorer than most of Germany, but then they might stick me in some blighted zone in the former GDR or the rust belt...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 4:56:22 GMT
The link in Mark's reply #2 is more interesting than the first one.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 25, 2011 5:11:56 GMT
That's the one I used -- the one that exiled me to sandy islands or places with 10 months of winter, either of which is high on the list of things I hate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 5:48:28 GMT
Here is a comparison of Canada to France from the first link, lagatta.
If Canada were your home instead of France you would...
use 2.3 times more electricity consume 2.2 times more oil have 50.76% more chance of dying in infancy have 17.3% less babies make 17.07% more money work 16.95% more hours each year have 12.37% more chance at being employed spend 7.4% more money on health care experience 1.83% less of a class divide live 0.2 years longer
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 5:52:31 GMT
If Italy were your home instead of Canada you would...
use 65.85% less electricity consume 57.85% less oil have 22.08% less babies make 21.09% less money spend 28.37% less money on health care have 11.76% more chance at being employed have 8.42% more chance of dying in infancy die 0.96 years sooner experience 0.31% less of a class divide
....or, presented in reverse:
If Canada were your home instead of Italy you would...
use 2.9 times more electricity consume 2.4 times more oil have 28.34% more babies make 26.73% more money spend 39.6% more money on health care have 13.33% more chance of being unemployed have 7.76% less chance of dying in infancy live 0.96 years longer experience 0.31% more of a class divide
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