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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2017 5:19:47 GMT
I find stupid women unattractive regardless how attractive they may be. I've known men that felt the same way about intelligent women. I can somehow see women preferring their men stupid though. Stupid seems more masculine than feminine. If a man ain't smart, he's just not getting anywhere with me. That's why I like hanging out on APIAS. I met my husband online. Now, I know that literacy is not necessarily linked with intelligence, but damn, I liked the fact that Mr. Faire could spell and knew what a paragraph was!
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Post by bjd on Jan 29, 2017 7:03:07 GMT
I agree with Lizzy. I find stupidity in anyone a total turn-off.
re military service in France. I was happy that neither of my sons had to do it because they were young enough to come of age after the law abolishing it was passed. On the other hand, although my husband said it was a totally boring and useless way of spending a year, it did give him the opportunity to meet and spend time with people he would never have met in the course of his usual life. So, as Kerouac says, it broadens horizons. Of course, that appreciation came in hindsight, not at the time.
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Post by htmb on Feb 6, 2017 20:23:53 GMT
I never realized before that "Roquette" is the French word for arugula.
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Post by bixaorellana on Feb 6, 2017 22:57:42 GMT
An old-fashioned English word for arugula is "rocket".
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 0:28:27 GMT
And rucola in Italian.
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Post by lagatta on Feb 7, 2017 0:43:23 GMT
Yes, arugula is also a name from Italy, but I believe it is from one of the southern dialects. In central Italy I always heard it called rucola.
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Post by mickthecactus on Feb 7, 2017 8:25:15 GMT
And it's one of my least favourite greens.
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Post by whatagain on Feb 7, 2017 13:46:50 GMT
I love Roquette. I like Ker description of some positive aspects of the military service. I spent 10 months with people less intelligent than me (or more stupid) and it was good. Under me or above me. I actually didn't meet one guy who impressed me much contrary to work. And I did learn some discipline (ermph) and since I live in a great country I said I was Flemish and learnt the language.
Anyway today I learnt what a crypto locker is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 13:53:49 GMT
I was about to mention discipline -- I know a lot of young men learned to make a bed for the first time in their life.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 18:30:10 GMT
I learned that "Paname" is a poetic name given to Paris. I was wondering why there were so many mentions of it in French music.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:07:57 GMT
Yes, even rappers in the year 2017 use the sobriquet Paname, particularly if it helps the rhyme. I have actually never heard anybody in everyday life call Paris Paname, but it is omnipresent in literature, music and movies.
Perhaps the most famous song:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:18:56 GMT
Yup, first hear of it in Juliet Gréco's version of Ferré's song, then I've been listening to a lot of Slimane lately. Then it was spelled out for me in this book (which is fabulous, by the way!): The Other Paris by Luc Sante
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Post by lagatta on Feb 8, 2017 0:42:37 GMT
That sounds interesting. Slimane is a very handsome young man, I say, indicating that we are really not of the same generation. I've heard that song but don't remember him visiting Québec. And that book looks interesting. Even 40 years ago, Paris wasn't nearly as tarted up as it is now.
No, I can't recall anyone I know using the term Paname except in reference to songe, poems and other writings about Paris.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 2:12:29 GMT
Grrrr, I can't watch that Slimane Paname video "from my location". I've heard the song but I wanted to watch that video... Oh, and lagatta, no need to apologize for finding the young man handsome.
Edit: Someone else cross-posted it on Vevo, so I got to see it. Damn, the only time I've seen him smile and he is pretty cute!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 5:56:35 GMT
He did win the last season of The Voice by the way.
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Post by lagatta on Feb 8, 2017 6:16:37 GMT
I just thought I was sounding like a dirty old lady.
Thanks lizzyfaire, because I couldn't view that version here either. I just saw another version, and the production values weren't as good. Yes, he has a lovely voice, and I loved that bit of smile because if not the line about life being tougher outside the périph' would have been too much of a cliché.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 6:31:21 GMT
Apparently he used to be obese but he lost weight because he was embarrassed about being overweight on stage.
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Post by whatagain on Feb 8, 2017 8:18:34 GMT
Never knew panama was referring to Paris.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 11:15:53 GMT
He did win the last season of The Voice by the way. That's how I "discovered" him.
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Post by rikita on Feb 8, 2017 12:45:47 GMT
sorry, but the whole "at least in the military services people learn discipline" idea is very off-putting to me ... discipline, especially military style discipline, is overrated ... of course, i never did military service, but those people i know who did don't have much good to say about the experience ... the idea of some kind of general social service is different - if approached well, i think that could be useful ...
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Post by rikita on Feb 8, 2017 12:46:40 GMT
(and isn't school already the place were you have to spend time with people you'd never spend time with otherwise?)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2017 13:01:05 GMT
Unfortunately not. Rich kids go to rich schools, village kids go to village schools, etc.
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Post by whatagain on Feb 8, 2017 16:23:36 GMT
And in the army you meet people who didn't go to school.
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Post by rikita on Feb 8, 2017 23:22:49 GMT
don't think there are that many here who didn't go to school anymore - and at least in my elementary school it was quite mixed (well okay, it was all people from the countryside, because that is where the school was, but socially it was still mixed) ... and i just don't like that whole military discipline strong men learning how to kill people thing ... heard a lot of stories about bad bullying there, too ...
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Post by questa on Feb 8, 2017 23:58:55 GMT
Sometimes village kids are sent to rich schools by parents who sacrifice a lot to send them there. Village kid doesn't fit in and is and made to feel "Not one of us". Starts to fight back, finds lotsa neat ideas in leftist writings and annoys everyone with Bolshie quotes.As final exams draw close V.K. is on probation as heretical thoughts can not be entertained. Finishes school, Relatives happy V.K. has learnt which fork to use at Table and what you don't discuss. V.K happy to be out of stifle-dom and free to storm barricades.
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Post by mossie on Feb 9, 2017 12:25:36 GMT
Well, I am the V.K. Who passed the scholarship exam and went to the posh grammar school. Then worked on a farm, left home for the East End of London and after 3 other jobs joined up at the grand old age of 18. Never looked back but always have something to boast about.
To get to the point, military service for all should be brought in. I can hear the screams of outrage from here. But today needs DISCIPLINE, which is sadly lacking at all levels. But instead of the endless bullshit, which became routine because the powers that be lacked imagination, I would send squads of these fit young people out to the worlds poor places to dig wells, build roads, houses and whatever to improve the lot of the masses. Their superiors should clamp down hard on the corruption which is endemic in most of the so called Third World and give the populations hopeand a leg up. In return our youth would have learnt that their cushy life had to be earned, and they would learn order and respect for others.
Rant over.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 12:58:08 GMT
Just to test the endurance of the young, I would like to see everybody sent to a camp (a very nice one) for two weeks with absolutely no mobile phone or internet service. Perhaps one coin operated land line for real emergencies, to be shared by at least 200 people.
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Post by onlyMark on Feb 9, 2017 13:05:08 GMT
.... fit young people....... I think that's the flaw in your plan.
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Post by onlyMark on Feb 9, 2017 13:11:20 GMT
..... but those people i know who did don't have much good to say about the experience ... I'd expect the majority who were brought up in the society of today just wouldn't say it was the best thing since sliced bread anyway, would they? That's not a surprise. .... the idea of some kind of general social service is different - if approached well, i think that could be useful ... Which is actually what Mossie is saying - "I would send squads of these fit young people out to the worlds poor places to dig wells, build roads, houses and whatever to improve the lot of the masses." Rikita, do we need a military? Do we need to reach people how to kill and how to impose our will by force?
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Post by mossie on Feb 9, 2017 14:22:21 GMT
Sorry Mark, i didn't explain myself too well. After their basic training 97% would be fit enough. Basic training would be the old fashioned type, they would get shouted at, they would lose their "safe place", mothers apron strings would be cut from day one, communication with the outside world would be by censored letter only. Once they were in their workplace more freedom would be available, even beer and skittles, as those of us who have experienced military service may fondly remember. But basic comradeship and discipline would have been instilled, plus the habit of obeying orders.
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