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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 5, 2017 15:37:26 GMT
What a wonderful program. Educating children in that way about food will undoubtedly prevent many eating-related health problems -- not only for them, but also for any children for whom they will be responsible in later life.
I meant to ask before: what is BIO?
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 5, 2017 15:44:21 GMT
Sorry, Kerouac -- we simul-posted.
I will find out what the system is here & report back. Since there are two sessions of school a day here -- a morning one for half the students and an afternoon one for the other half, it may well be that they all eat at home.
There are always trashy snack food & sweet crap stands positioned right at the gates of primary schools at the lunch hour when mothers are picking up their children at the end of the morning session. Okay, those vendors are there to make money, but what really makes me fume are the number of mothers who buy from them and hand the junk to their kids -- kids who are presumably on the way home to a real meal.
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Post by kerouac2 on Sept 5, 2017 15:45:27 GMT
Bio = organic. It is the new goal of lunch programmes in France.
In any case, the diversity of the food is the main reason that there are far fewer allergies in France (and in most of Europe) compared to the explosion of allergies in North America which are at least partially caused by a diet of burgers, fries and pizza and not enough other items.
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Post by lagatta on Sept 5, 2017 16:24:47 GMT
Those menus look very good, though of course it is institutional catered food. The older kids even got duck rillettes (I want some now!)It is about the same in the 19th, where the daughter of friends' grew up - No pork of course - these friends are Jewish but not observant. Not all, but a good percentage of her classmates were either Muslim or Jewish. Some say this violates the principle of secularism, but I think the schools just don't want meals thrown out and are being pragmatic. Here is an odd article about parents in Tilburg complaining about the new school rules: "water is for dogs!" www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2017/09/school-bans-fizzy-and-sugary-drinks/ Only sandwiches (very Dutch!) and fruit are allowed. At least in Belgium you have better bread - Dutch bread is soft and horrid; I was very disappointed; thought it would be like German bread. We have the same rules about junk food, but not the rule about only sandwiches. That would be horrible for a kid with coeliac disorder. I believe kids have an hour here. And now when I'm in Amsterdam, I buy very good Moroccan bread nearby.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Sept 16, 2017 20:10:23 GMT
I had an email from my cousin today...he's into genealogy and has been tracing our ancestors (his Mum was my Dad's sister). He produced a splendid family tree following my Grandmother's line back into the 1700s...but my Grandpa's background was more of a mystery. Anyway...he's now traced our Great-Great-Great-Great Grandparents on our Grandfather's side...lots of Elizabeths in the female line (I was gien the name too) altho the earliest female relative he's traced is 'Bethiah'
Anyway early 'Greats' emigrated to Australia, a son came back to the UK (Nottingham, met and married a local girl, their son is our Great Grandpa)...most of the family end up in USA..my Grandpa was born in Nottingham 3 months after his Father moved to Pensylvania...it's really complicated because altho his father remarried, his mother and sisters also moved to the USA (Philadelphia).
The family name is Shuttlewood (there is a village in Derbyshire called Shuttlewood which may be where we acquired the name) altho early ancestors are known as Shuttlewood-Black or Black-Shuttlewood. Quite an unusual name.
I'm really confused.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 16, 2017 21:31:35 GMT
What part confuses you?
One thing that I don't care for about computer-generated genealogical charts is that they are vertical. For me, an easier way to see the relationships is to make my own horizontal chart -- the kind that can be found in the front of historical novels. If you did that with the information you got from the cousin, would it be less confusing?
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Post by questa on Sept 17, 2017 0:14:36 GMT
Agreed, Bixa and it is easier to fit in larger families and add pages.
In Oz there has been a strong urge for tracing ancestry since the 1960s when people stopped feeling ashamed of a convict in their family. In reality a very small percentage of the population was of convict descent when we became a federation in 1901.
I sometimes remind UK friends who are teasing me, that for every convict who was sent here, 10 stayed in the prisons or hulks, therefore they should check on their ancestry first.
As for "really confused". Remember that many of the official recorders of lists of names were often unable to spell. Also that the families didn't always use the same spelling for each member. People would change surnames to suit themselves without official recognition and poor writing (Black=Block) make searching difficult. We were lucky in that a parish register had 3 possible babies baptisms noted. We knew who was our ancestor because he had 2 given names like all his family, in a 'one name only' parish
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Post by onlyMark on Sept 17, 2017 7:15:13 GMT
I used to live only a few miles from Shuttlewood. It's not far from Bolsover (pronounced Bowser) where the Beast of Bolsover comes from.
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Post by bjd on Sept 17, 2017 9:05:36 GMT
I think we have a genealogy thread on here somewhere. My searches are a bit complex because of Poland's history of invasion, partition, moving borders, etc. I am on the My Heritage site for part of it, but have a more complete family tree on my own computer using software called Gramps. The graph of the tree is horizontal. You can add people to families, although it's not always clear who is who when you add siblings and sidelines to the direct line.
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Post by lagatta on Sept 17, 2017 14:22:43 GMT
Yes, being mostly flat (except the south) and between Germany and Russia was not the most felicitous of siuations. Some Polish names were also changed upon emigration to more easily pronounced spellings, which would depend on the language of the officials changing them.
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Post by bjd on Sept 17, 2017 15:32:42 GMT
The names I find on the Polish sites vary because officials wrote according to what they heard. Many people were still illiterate and couldn't correct spellings. Only one relative emigrated in early days-- one of my maternal grandmother's brothers was sent to the States in 1910 to avoid doing Russian military service. On the Ellis Island site I found his name and even his description on the passenger lists. At age 19 he left eastern Poland for Bremen where he took a ship to New York. He never saw any of his family again, even though he was in touch with my grandmother until the 1940s.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Sept 17, 2017 19:06:08 GMT
Bixa...next time I email you ill send a copy of my cousin's email
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Post by onlyMark on Oct 18, 2017 20:12:02 GMT
You may recognise these two - Here they are with their father - I knew he was a well known actor in certain circles, a legend in Jordan actually, Nadim Sawalha, but I didn't realise he had been in so many things. I also learnt his wife was a Playboy model - Funnily enough the father and mother were our landlords in Jordan and popped round for coffee a few times.
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 18, 2017 20:24:43 GMT
Gosh. You know famous people.
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 18, 2017 21:15:31 GMT
Gosh. You know famous people. That's what their friends say to them about Mark!
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Post by onlyMark on Oct 19, 2017 5:15:41 GMT
I think you know more than me Mick. I've just brushed against a couple on my way through life. I agree with Bixa. I am well known in certain circles. Usually very minute ones though.
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Post by bjd on Oct 19, 2017 5:31:34 GMT
Can someone enlighten me? Who are they?
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 19, 2017 7:35:41 GMT
Julia and Nadia Sawalha - Actresses well known in the UK.
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 19, 2017 9:05:38 GMT
Julia Sawalha played the long-suffering daughter on Absolutely Fabulous, but I never recognise her when she is dressed and coiffed normally.
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 19, 2017 10:03:19 GMT
Julia Sawalha played the long-suffering daughter on Absolutely Fabulous, but I never recognise her when she is dressed and coiffed normally. She was also a main character in the popular Lark Rise to Candleford.
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 19, 2017 11:16:29 GMT
...of which I have never heard.
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 19, 2017 11:19:53 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 19, 2017 11:23:26 GMT
According to IMDb, it was shown in the UK, Australia, Sweden, Japan and Hungary.
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 19, 2017 15:34:09 GMT
Also available to the criminals who watch p*rate tv. I watched that series and initially enjoyed it, although towards the end wanted to brain Laura. Julia Sawalha, along with other stalwarts of British acting, did a nice job in an essentially hokey role. I did not recognize her in Mark's picture until her identity was revealed and I took a second look. Never heard of sister Nadia.
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 19, 2017 16:01:18 GMT
Nadia seems to do the cheap stuff, Big Brother etc.
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Post by onlyMark on Oct 19, 2017 16:45:05 GMT
What isn't so known about the pair, and their mother, is that they are reasonable cooks and have a number of recipes out there. On the BBC and other places. Also, and for Mick, there are a series of books by a woman called Victoria Twead about her time in Andalusia in a small village with her husband. In them are a number of recipes done by the Sawalha sisters. The books are light easy holiday reading - www.amazon.com/Victoria-Twead/e/B002WH2NB8/ref=dp_byline_cont_ebooks_1
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 19, 2017 17:17:52 GMT
My sort of book Mark.
Just read Driving over Lemons by Chris Stewart which is about setting up in Andalusia. Good holiday read too.
Expecting to be there for most of November next year btw.
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Post by onlyMark on Oct 19, 2017 17:48:41 GMT
If I'm there, I'll be there.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Oct 19, 2017 19:26:07 GMT
Lark Rise to Candleford was a sickly sweet Cranford copycat (it failed to live up to Cranford's quality tho). Julia was v g in Absolutely Fabulous...and as Mick says, Nadia is a 'presenter' rather than an actress
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 19, 2017 19:28:40 GMT
I really liked it...
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