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Post by Kimby on Feb 24, 2019 15:03:58 GMT
Sorry for you loss lugg. Our pussycat Priya passed away a few years ago but I still sometimes think I see her out of the corner of my eye...walking across a sunbeam on the floor. I think that our cats and dogs leave a little bit of their essence behind to give us comfort. And horses...
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 9, 2019 16:16:41 GMT
We had to take Django to the vets this morning. He has conjunctivitis. It's only in one eye. The vet was really thorough and Django was really good...if terrified. 5ml antibiotic eyedrops and a 10 minute consultation £46...AND we have to take him back to make sure that he's ok. I think that there is a flat rate for consultations but it does seem to be getting more expensive.
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Post by lugg on Mar 9, 2019 19:12:10 GMT
Thank you Kimby x Hope Django has recovered Cheery
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Post by questa on Apr 7, 2019 10:12:46 GMT
I am distraught , my little dog was hit by a car and killed this afternoon. I was taking her on our walk and she picked up a bone on the path. I tried to take it but she struggled out of her harness and rushed into the traffic. I heard a car brake suddenly and knew the worst. 2 young men had stopped and helped me … I was in shock .
My Marley aka Molly aka Poochie is in a cardboard box, looking like she is asleep. Tomorrow she goes to the vet for disposal, but tonight I will be weeping with no dog to sleep on my bed
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 7, 2019 10:58:53 GMT
I am so sorry, questa.
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Post by bjd on Apr 7, 2019 11:16:51 GMT
So sorry to hear that, questa. I'm sure she kept you company these past years and you will miss her.
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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 7, 2019 11:17:37 GMT
I am distraught , my little dog was hit by a car and killed this afternoon. I was taking her on our walk and she picked up a bone on the path. I tried to take it but she struggled out of her harness and rushed into the traffic. I heard a car brake suddenly and knew the worst. 2 young men had stopped and helped me … I was in shock . My Marley aka Molly aka Poochie is in a cardboard box, looking like she is asleep. Tomorrow she goes to the vet for disposal, but tonight I will be weeping with no dog to sleep on my bed Really, really sorry questa. Love, Mick
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Post by fumobici on Apr 7, 2019 14:15:55 GMT
I'm so sorry to hear. That is tragic.
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Post by mossie on Apr 7, 2019 15:14:18 GMT
My deepest sympathy Questa, I know how animals can become part of the family
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Post by casimira on Apr 7, 2019 15:19:04 GMT
I am so very sorry to hear this sad news. My thoughts and condolences are with you Questa. Take care.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 7, 2019 17:17:38 GMT
Oh, Questa -- oh no! I am so very, very sorry for your loss.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Apr 7, 2019 17:45:52 GMT
Oh Questa, how awful. I'm so very sorry. Blub away...it helps a bit. xxxxx
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Post by mich64 on Apr 7, 2019 17:56:02 GMT
Oh Questa, I am so sorry to read what has happened to your beloved Marley. Deepest condolences Questa. Hugs to you.
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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 7, 2019 18:16:35 GMT
I showed it to Mrs Cactus who was quite upset. Our little dog is Molly and she has got out of her harness by acvident but at least isn’t a runner (unlike previous dogs).
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Post by lagatta on Apr 7, 2019 23:15:12 GMT
I burst out in tears - I know how much you love your wee canine friend, and with limited mobility their presence is even more essential. A human friend is dying - might already have passed away as far as I know - he is in palliative care for what was initially bladder cancer.
He just lost the lottery, in that he acted as soon as he had symptoms (that could be that or other things). He was visiting a son on the west coast of North America who is a medical specialist and returned here forthwith, and was taken into healthcare immediately.
His wife advised me not to visit any more as they have upped the medication and he is confused as a result and almost always sleeping, not eating, scarcely drinking water. So it is a matter of days if that. And of course I don't want to bother the female member of that couple as she is at wit's end.
I love wee beasties so much. I think it is probably already early morning where you live. Hugs.
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Post by questa on Apr 9, 2019 0:52:41 GMT
From the bottom of my heart I thank all the Anyporters for their empathy and kind words. It really was a great support for me as Molly was the love of my life.
I bypassed the vet and took her to a pet crematorium...simple and not slushy sentimental. Now I have to get the house in order and keep busy, but it seems so empty.
Thank you again, my friends.
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Post by mich64 on Apr 9, 2019 1:40:27 GMT
We had our Jebidiah cremated and have his ashes on our credenza in a wooden urn designed and built by my Mr. M.'s brother. The top looks like the waves on the lake where Jebidiah spent so many happy days fishing. It was the most thoughtful gift we have ever received, it looks like a piece of art but holds our precious boy so he is in the room with us every day yet guests would never know.
Keep yourself as busy as you can Questa. I can now think about him and smile, finally no more tears, but I still miss him so much. Sending you more and more hugs.
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Post by htmb on Apr 11, 2019 19:03:53 GMT
Oh, Questa. I am so sorry to hear about your little dog. The death of a pet can be just like losing a dear, close friend. What a great tragedy for you. You have my deepest sympathy.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Apr 18, 2019 18:15:01 GMT
Django was attacked today whilst we were out on our walk. It was horrid, two big dogs off lead. The owner dragged them off and we hurried away...but he didnt put them on their leads so they raced back (we were 20 - 30 yards away by then) and attacked again. It was awful...they were really hurting him, I was trying to kick them away but they were too big...took the owner a while to waddle over and haul them off. I was shouting myself hoarse...we went straight home and we checked Django over but his new harness seems to have protected him. He's been quite subdued and I was very shaky and upset...but we are ok. Not going to take him that way again....
To be fair the other owner is probably in shock too...people think that their fur babies are docile and obedient...the amount of times I've heard 'He's friendly' just before the 'friendly' dog sinks its teeth into my dog...
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 18, 2019 18:35:42 GMT
That's really awful. I hope that Django gets over the trauma, and I certainly hope that the owner of the other dogs will keep them on a lead from now on.
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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 18, 2019 20:01:09 GMT
Django was attacked today whilst we were out on our walk. It was horrid, two big dogs off lead. The owner dragged them off and we hurried away...but he didnt put them on their leads so they raced back (we were 20 - 30 yards away by then) and attacked again. It was awful...they were really hurting him, I was trying to kick them away but they were too big...took the owner a while to waddle over and haul them off. I was shouting myself hoarse...we went straight home and we checked Django over but his new harness seems to have protected him. He's been quite subdued and I was very shaky and upset...but we are ok. Not going to take him that way again.... To be fair the other owner is probably in shock too...people think that their fur babies are docile and obedient...the amount of times I've heard 'He's friendly' just before the 'friendly' dog sinks its teeth into my dog... Cheery, so sorry. That's horrible.
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Post by questa on Apr 18, 2019 22:42:19 GMT
Cheery, that made my blood run cold. Poor Django must have been terrified and so must you. This is a long article that I read only yesterday. It is good for all dog people to know. I would add... Report to police and try to get witnesses.
HOW TO DEAL WITH AN OFF LEAD DOG THAT CHARGES YOU WHILE YOU ARE WALKING YOUR DOG ON THE LEAD. I don't recall seeing anyone write practical advice on this matter. Why?..It's such an important topic. Everyone that walks a dog for a number of years regularly will encounter a loose dog that charges up to them at some time. Some encounters are fine and some are deadly, with thousands in between those two extremes.. I'm always seeing trainers and owners complaining about It. And it's fine to complain, but all owners should have a plan in place to deal with it because it "Will" happen. It doesn't matter how much we complain, its still going to happen. So be ready.
Everyone reads about never looking an aggressive dog in the eye and keeping still.... don't appear to be a threat to the aggressive .dog. ..Good advice for most people when you walk into a dogs territory and it guards it. However, that is the worst possible advice when a dog charges you and your dog.... When a loose dog charges you and your dog, IT IS CHARGING YOUR DOG ..,NOT YOU. I have put that in capitals because that is so important to remember. If an owner looks away, the charging dog will just keep coming into your dog. The only way anyone can stop a charging dog is to take control and confront the dog.
Appeasement won't work because all that other dog wants is to charge straight into your dog. Perhaps that's why other trainers don't write about it. They don't want to look mean and nasty. But the only way to advise people and help them is to tell the truth, and sometimes with an aggressive dog the owner has to step up and protect them from that dog, and that sometimes means getting violent. Always carry a staff, walking stick, small cane or umbrella. Its one of those things that when you really need it, nothing else will do and you will regret not having one. There are lots of different scenarios and millions of different dogs, but the basic principles are the same. If you see a dog off lead charging towards you, bring your dog up on a very short lead and put it behind you, Now the other dog has to get through you to get your dog. Square your shoulders, Plant your staff into the ground to give you power. and face the other dog head on. Feel powerful and in charge. If it's friendly and your dog is friendly "No worries" ..If you have a reactive aggressive dog yourself, shout "No" { Every dog knows the word "no"} at the other dog and don't let it get near your dog. Use your umbrella to point at it and if necessary poke it. That is guaranteed to bring the other owner running to save their dog. AGGRESSIVE CHARGING DOG If you own a little fluffy and a bull type aggressive dog is charging towards you, your dog is in grave danger and needs you to protect it. Contrary to popular advice, it is a good idea to pick it up if the other dog is obviously aggressive. The wrong thing to do.. is then to turn your back. As hard as it may seem, the owner has to fight that dog off from the front. If you turn your back the other dog will just come around, jump up and pull your dog out of your arm, probably biting you in the process. If you face the dog, it has to engage you and that is the only thing that will stop a powerful dog that is out to kill a small dog. When it gets in range ..poke it "Hard" straight into its chest with whatever weapon you have. {This applies to owners of big dogs too}. Don't muck around feeling sorry for the other dog. Think of it as though you are protecting your four year old child. You, and only you can protect your dog, and that first hit is the one that brings an aggressive dog up short and makes it "Think" It's only when the dogs are already fighting that owners get bitten. Poking the other dog will not make it aggressive to you if you do it before it reaches your dog. I have never seen any dog get aggressive to a human before it gets to the dog it's trying to attack on a lead. Don't be in a hurry to turn and back off when the aggressive dog backs down. We always want to get out of there but if that dog has stopped, you have won the battle but need time for it to cool down and walk away. If you try to leave to early it might get some extra courage and start again. This year in Ipswich an elderly lady was walking her beloved small fluffy dog past a house where the family had just arrived home from shopping. They opened the back gate and their Bull type dog rushed straight out..across the street and killed her dog in front of her. Don't feel sorry for attacking dogs and let it happen to you or your dog. The owners of this aggressive dog are not evil people. Everyone who owns dogs will have them escape now and then. But they are wrong for allowing their dog to react aggressively and not doing something to stop that aggression well before it got to that stage. PS-Martha Hoffman has just reminded me about raising your stick. Don't try to hit a dog by raising your stick in the normal manner. They will dodge it every time. You have to poke... I think it's in a dogs DNA to dodge sticks after 50,000 years of man trying to hit them when they have done wrong. Thanks Martha Susan reminded me about throwing an object. All dogs know and are wary of anything thrown at them. So if you are stuck and have nothing else, throw or make out you have something to throw. Thanks Susan. Carry some marbles in your pocket to throw. Practise at home with the staff or umbrella before it happens so it becomes easy to do under stress. Its been two years since I wrote this and I know it has saved at least eight dogs from getting mauled, and with one owner who remembered what to do it probably saved her dogs life because the two dogs she fought off went on to kill another dog three days later. Please share
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Post by mich64 on Apr 18, 2019 23:14:55 GMT
Oh Cheery, I am sorry this happened. I hope Django is okay. It is a frightening experience as it is usually unexpected. I would not be going that direction again either! Hopefully he has learned from this and will keep his dog leashed so he and others do not go through this again.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Apr 19, 2019 8:47:27 GMT
Thank you people, especially for the advice Questa. I've got a strong staff that I can take out with me. I think that I tried to do most of what you said..tried to get Django behind me and certainly shouted NO...quite a lot in fact. I am a complete wuss but our dog is hugely precious to us. He's also our responsibility. That's why he's always on his lead when we're out in public.
We went for a short, slightly nervous walk yesterday afternoon but today is the real test...I'm going to try taking him on a different walk. There are loads of dogs on the park but there are also lots of escape routes...the nature reserve (where the attack happened) is quite a narrow space. Jeff took him out early this morning and has also avoided the field and nature reserve. Django has been attacked five times over 2 years, mostly just quick scuffles and snapping...but all were over the field and nature reserve which are really close by so easy to get to.
I don't know whether to report the incident. I'm reluctant to because the dogs are obviously well cared for and loved...the owner exercises them every day and they are beautiful dogs. But if they attacked a child....
Incidentally. Jeff wants to get me a body-cam!!
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 19, 2019 10:19:28 GMT
Now you made me look at "dog attacks" on YouTube, and I really regret it.
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Post by questa on Apr 19, 2019 11:01:29 GMT
Body cam sounds a bit funny to me until I think of 'how far would I go to protect Molly?' The cam is only good after the mauling as evidence. I used to take Molly to a park that was unfenced and not a 'dog park" but big dogs ran free. Her Jack Russell genes wanted to fight them and her sole aim was to keep me protected. Loved and was gentle and patient with babies and kids, but other dogs she saw as enemies. I kept her away from others, and if unleashed dogs came towards us I'd yell "Sir (or Lady). Control your dog, please" in my best authoritative voice. It worked most times, other times I'd have to carry her away.
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Post by lagatta on Apr 19, 2019 13:52:25 GMT
As in many cities, we do have dog owners who are "evil", or more specifically thugs. And they always own Staffies or Pit Bull type dogs. One unleashed his dog on me and it chased me up my outdoor staircase. Now, one might like a smaller bum, but not in the sense of having a piece town out of it. Two dogs killed a woman jogging in a suburb not far from here this spring. Another attacked a neighbour who was tending her garden after work. I love animals to bits (rather more than many humans) but large carnivores can be bloody dangerous. I certainly wouldn't own a cougar even if it were legal. Dogs can be trained more than cats can because they are pack animals, but it is still important to ensure that the human remains in charge. The pit bull's owner was a drug dealer, and his dog was definitely a weapon.
I guess those tough guys leaving the neighbourhood is a positive effect of (a mild degree of) gentrification. I'm protected from the worst impacts of the latter because I belong to a housing co-op (we do vote rent increases, but there are no increases that will force members to leave). Thanks for the advice, questa.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 19, 2019 15:07:24 GMT
A number of dogs are now banned in France. For example : pitbull, American Staffordshire, Boerbull, mastiff, tosa, Rottweiler. Mixed combinations are also banned.
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Post by mickthecactus on Apr 19, 2019 15:25:23 GMT
My son has always had staffies and they have been the loveliest dogs you could meet. But they are powerfull and in the wrong hands can be dangerous.
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Post by questa on Apr 20, 2019 0:28:46 GMT
Years ago I showed and bred Dalmatians. After reading the above advice I emailed a breeder of Standard Poodles who is known for his love and kindness to all dogs. I asked him where would be the best place to 'poke' an attacking dog. His answer...straight down the throat!
On a different note...Family of Dad, Mum, adult son kept a pet deer in the paddock beside the house. Dad takes a feed to this large beast and it attacks him. The others rush to help, son grabs shovel and rescues Mum ...too late for Dad. Helicopter to major hospital where Mum is in ICU... life threatening injuries, son injured, but will be OK.
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