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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 19:33:00 GMT
One thing that I found disturbing is that the username of the person who uploads such things is "WeAreTheSavageNation" -- his name being Michael Savage, apparently, from the Moonist Washington Times.
This is frankly much more horrible, although I confess that I can only last about 4 minutes into this sort of thing.
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Post by mich64 on Sept 7, 2012 20:52:35 GMT
What a bitter angry person. I could only listen to just over 5 minutes. He blames the Government for everything wrong that happens in life. He does not seem to accept that guidelines and rules need to be inputted to protect all of society. I personally am glad that municipal health departments check in on restaurants and close them until they meet the standards/codes. I imagine if I kept listening he would recall olden days when life was better when there were less rules.
My suspicion is that he lost his job because he was a miserable and difficult person to work with.
They did not fire people because they were a white male, that legislation made it that Companies had to hire not just the white male when enacted. They did not fire the white males they had, it was a new hire quota that had to be met. (Well intended, but discriminatory as well.)
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Post by lola on Sept 18, 2012 14:06:08 GMT
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Post by htmb on Sept 18, 2012 16:18:23 GMT
The comments following the article are very interesting, too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2012 21:10:20 GMT
Here is the latest simulation, if the election were held today. Not too bad.
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Post by fumobici on Sept 19, 2012 21:46:35 GMT
Obama is a lock to win. Not that I'd cross the street to vote for either of those dirtbags.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2012 22:03:24 GMT
I'm glad I don't vote in the United States.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2012 9:59:42 GMT
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Post by lola on Sept 24, 2012 23:03:28 GMT
Funny!
I would not call either candidate a dirtbag, and will either walk or ride my bike a half mile to vote for one of them. I don't think it's a lock.
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Post by fumobici on Sept 24, 2012 23:13:11 GMT
I would. One candidate is directly complicit in torture and war crimes as well as the largest financial fraud in the world's history by protecting perpetrators from accountability in direct contravention of the law and has baldly claimed the right to murder American citizens with no judicial process and has done so unapologetically. And that's the better of the two and the one I voted for four years ago. Dirtbags is completely appropriate.
I'll be voting but for Jill Stein who is, unlike the corrupt legacy party candidates, fully deserving of my vote.
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Post by htmb on Sept 25, 2012 2:19:25 GMT
Jill Stein seems like an interesting candidate. I've never heard her speak and don't know more than I was able to read while doing a little Internet research. Since she's one of the eleven people I can choose to vote for on the Florida presidential ballot I'd be interested to hear how you think she could effectively lead the U.S. Getting back to the theme of this thread, this is one I won't be voting for: Roseanne Barr on Florida's Presidential Ballot
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Post by fumobici on Sept 25, 2012 5:01:21 GMT
Whether or not she could effectively lead the US is sadly irrelevant. She will not have the opportunity to so that's a meaningless hypothetical. I'm voting for her because her positions and policies are close to my own and I've come to the conclusion that voting for people who one has profound ideological differences with, seriously compromised lesser evils or criminals and corrupt sellouts (even ones above the law) is never a moral or correct decision or one I can any longer live with. If enough people insisted on respecting a higher standard, the US would be a great country. I'm genuinely excited about voting for a president for the first time in 36 years.
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Post by htmb on Sept 25, 2012 11:56:45 GMT
I respect your thoughts on this and appreciate your response. I have never voted for an independent presidential candidate because I haven't found one whose ideals I believed in and who was also someone I thought could lead the country.
I've been voting for president since 1972, and I have also never voted for a republican candidate. In fact, the only time I ever voted for a republican was when an acquaintance was running for school board in a non-partisan race. I was later sorry I voted for her.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 14:39:21 GMT
1972 was the first and only time I voted in the United States! It was not a lucky year for my presidential candidate. However, the congressman of my district won with 100% of the vote because he was running unopposed.
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Post by htmb on Sept 25, 2012 15:19:23 GMT
That was one of the only times my father voted for a republican for president, and I had a lot of fun later referring to Nixon as "his" candidate.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 16:50:00 GMT
One thing that greatly impressed my father was that I told my parents "Nixon will not finish his term in office; he is too much of a crook." -- and it turned out to be true. Who would have ever believed it?
In later years, he brought up this act of political clairvoyance regularly.
My father only voted twice in his life, according to what he said -- in 1940 and in 1960, both times for the Democrat. My mother never voted, ever. (And yet her father was mayor of his village for 20 years and he and my grandmother voted in every election their entire lives.)
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Post by htmb on Sept 25, 2012 17:03:24 GMT
Ahhhhhhh. The clairvoyant Political Scientist! Good for you, though it was even obvious to me that Nixon was a crook.
Both my parents were very politically active. They helped campaign for many successful candidates, and I have old photos of me and my brother holding campaign posters by the roadside when we were little. I can still remember most of the political jingles used in the campaigns. Because of his political activism, my father served on several governmental committees. He was also very involved in water and seaport management. It seemed to me growing up that most of their friends were also heavily involved in state and local politics.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 17:34:07 GMT
Ahhhhhhh. The clairvoyant Political Scientist! Good for you, though it was even obvious to me that Nixon was a crook. Well of course, millions of us knew it, but the vast majority of crooks remain in office as long as they want since they spend their time perverting the system to conform to their desires.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 17:34:38 GMT
I hope you have all heard about how Mitt Romney wants to be able to open airplane windows.
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Post by htmb on Sept 25, 2012 17:39:53 GMT
Ahhhhhhh. The clairvoyant Political Scientist! Good for you, though it was even obvious to me that Nixon was a crook. Well of course, millions of us knew it, but the vast majority of crooks remain in office as long as they want since they spend their time perverting the system to conform to their desires. Aint it the truth!
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Post by mossie on Sept 26, 2012 7:02:10 GMT
I hope you have all heard about how Mitt Romney wants to be able to open airplane windows. Perhaps he is living in the past like me, all my old aeroplanes had opening windows
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2012 10:40:32 GMT
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Post by htmb on Sept 29, 2012 12:58:47 GMT
Kerouac, where on earth did you come across this one?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2012 15:00:58 GMT
It was on the news here. We have a free press.
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Post by htmb on Sept 29, 2012 15:12:07 GMT
It was on the news here. We have a free press. I didn't see it in our local paper, which is no longer owned by the NYTimes unfortunately. A google search shows it was in major US papers as well as on the major network news, which I don't usually watch, so I guess we have free press, too.
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Post by frenchmystiquetour on Sept 29, 2012 15:46:39 GMT
All my facebook friends have been posting this for the last few days.
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Post by htmb on Sept 29, 2012 16:01:09 GMT
All my facebook friends have been posting this for the last few days. Many of my Facebook "friends" are classmates I haven't seen since high school who are staunch Republicans. I've stayed away from Facebook for the past couple of months for my own peace of mind.
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Post by komsomol on Sept 29, 2012 21:45:38 GMT
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Post by htmb on Sept 30, 2012 17:07:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2012 18:15:22 GMT
I am impressed by the reference to Flowers for Algernon, because it implies that the viewers are well read.
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