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Post by onlymark on Mar 14, 2010 20:24:46 GMT
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Post by gertie on Mar 14, 2010 20:58:32 GMT
I'm gonna make wild guesses 1. for cleaning shingles from the roof in prep for putting on new ones? (looks awfully fancy for that) 2. Brass knuckles? 3. something you use with a lathe and you set the red part in place to make sure you don't go too deep 4. Harpoon? anchor? 3. I'm going to guess you used that to melt something in the heat of the fire, perhaps it is some fancy thing related to opium or that a physician used to melt stuff for medicines.
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Post by hwinpp on Mar 15, 2010 2:01:38 GMT
1. Obviously something to scratch/ clean something with... no idea. 2. Looks like samething used for sailing? Definitely to do with boats. 3. An instrument to measure distance or depth? Is that thing on the blade movable? 4. Yes, agree with gertie, harpoon or spear. 5. A firing contraption, 'trigger' is operated with the thumb, but firing what?
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 15, 2010 3:08:08 GMT
1. something for scoring wet plaster?
2. part of a snaffle?
3. that looks as though the screw-on piece should go the other way round. Some kind of carpet knife?
4. something to push and pull oven racks?
5. a calibrator of some kind?
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 4:41:34 GMT
The verb snaffle is a British colloquialism. Born on the croquet lawns of Oxford, it was originally coined as a reference to a technically illegal double hit to put a ball through the hoop at close range from an angle that would not be possible with a normal shot. ...Back soon.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 15, 2010 6:11:38 GMT
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 6:15:47 GMT
So, Number 1 - none right nor close, sorry. 2. Close bixa, but not close enough yet. 3. The red adjuster I'd also think would go the other way round, plus it is to do with depth, but not to measure it and not for carpets nor lathes. 4. gertie, hwinpp, along the right lines but not right yet. 5. It calibrates something bixa. But what?
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 6:18:23 GMT
bixa, it is animal related and a device to control. I'd think also that as it is made of brass type stuff it'd be for a boat to avoid corrosion - but it isn't. I'd be wrong on that one as well.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 15, 2010 6:45:43 GMT
1. it's to lift the pile of a knotted carpet upon it's completion in order to cut off any excess thread.
2. a nose ring for a hog or bull?
3. a curd cutter for cheese?
4. a template?
5. Does it measure the depth and tightness for packing a powder ball for an old-fashioned gun?
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 7:04:54 GMT
Getting there. 1. for carpet fitting. The carpet is laid down, the sharp end is dug a little into the carpet, then the rounded end is bashed, usually with the knee, to stretch the carpet into the edge between the floor and wall. This is the modern version and is called a knee kicker - www.qfonic.com/carpet-installer-knee-kicker-professional-p-2773.html
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 7:07:50 GMT
2. Yep, it's attached to the ring in bulls nose. The centre section is spring loaded and pulls out and twists so it can be attached to the nose ring.
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 7:10:53 GMT
3. No, think gardening.
4. Not a template and not a weapon in itself.
5. It's to do with gunpowder but not to do with measuring the depth and tightness for packing.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 15, 2010 7:54:08 GMT
3. ahhh -- a turf or peat cutter?
4. Is it something for flinging? A man-made object or a ball is somehow affixed to one end so it can be hurled further.
5. the flash point?
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 8:34:31 GMT
Extremely close. So close in fact that it's not viable to persist in keeping you in the dark. 3. The Pavy Weeder, a beech handled tool specially made for weeding between paving slabs and paviours. www.oldtools.co.uk/tools/misc/other.tools/other.tools.664.php#4. The most interesting object of all. It's called an Atlatl and is as important to warfare and hunting as gunpowder was when first used. The first use of it was one of those earth changing moments in history as it was a 'force multiplier' and resulted in man stepping up from a pure stabbing spear or throwing spear with a short range. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlatl5. Gun powder tester from the eighteenth century. The circular part shows numbers, meaning the gun powder was tested on a scale from 1 through 12, 1 being the weakest. www.halfspoon.com/Tools.htmlYa see, I even picked stuff from your neck of the woods.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2010 9:56:05 GMT
These are fascinating Only Mark,(even though admittedly I am clueless about the majority of). I have a couple of objects that I think may baffle,but some may find incredibly easy to identify. (Are these personal collectibles if you don't mind my asking?)
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 12:15:59 GMT
If I can help with your state of cluelessness then I am at your service. These are nothing to do with me other than in remembrance of K2's thread with the round object we couldn't identify other than guess it had something to do with cheese, plus in the past on the UK television was a quiz program where in part of it the panellists had to identify a weird object, usually some form of tool, plus recently I had to make a tool to do a specific job when I didn't have one, plus as an ex-mechanic I like tools, plus I made a 'throwing arrow' for my children and utilised a string version of the atlatl that I knew off when I was a kid but didn't know it had a name. It just came about from all that.
If you do have a couple of things also, then feel free and we'll soon see if they are obvious or not.
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Post by gertie on Mar 15, 2010 12:51:17 GMT
We have a collectibles show that shows items and asks you to guess then comes back after the commercial with the answer. I used to get very cranky until I started taping the show as commercials are for running personal errands and I would return to find they'd already moved on from the explanation! Among recent objects, a tiny tin lamp which miners wore on their heads before electricity. Served the dual purpose if it would not burn, then there was likely not proper air to breath so get out of that area. Thanks for showing us your items. My first thought with the last item was gunpowder, but it is just so beautiful, I could not believe they would risk it in quite that way.
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Post by spindrift on Mar 15, 2010 12:58:03 GMT
This thread is fun. I want to join in. Mark - please post more pictures. Bixa - I am most impressed by your answers.
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 13:43:35 GMT
lamp which miners wore on their heads before electricity. Served the dual purpose if it would not burn, then there was likely not proper air to breath so get out of that area.
A variation on what was originally invented as a Davy lamp no doubt - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_lamp
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 13:51:38 GMT
gertie, the gunpowder thing - remember they took pride in their work in those days. Not like today. And the items are not mine, just ones to make up the 'competition'.
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 14:55:31 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 15, 2010 17:33:05 GMT
Cool -- reading trash like Clan of the Cave Bear has finally paid off for me! *slaps forehead* Of course -- a hand-operated edger. Now it seems obvious. On the gunpowder tester -- I wonder if I used one in a former life. That was a completely intuitive guess on my part. Mark, this is a fabulous game, even though it's making me feel like this:
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 17:52:08 GMT
Stop prevaricating. Just tell me what the next set are. Smartypants.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 15, 2010 17:57:19 GMT
What?! You think I don't know? Of course I know. I just wanted to give the others a chance. Yeah -- that's it! I want to give the others a chance.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 15, 2010 18:10:25 GMT
first impressions:
1. an object to set or determine thickness
2. molds for making tableware and cooking utensils
3. for drawing something through it to make it even -- felt?
4. to hold something such as a pole upright
5. something to cut multiple sheets of folded paper
6. for crimping leather preparatory to sewing it
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 18:37:03 GMT
Good effort, but how shall I put it, errrr........ wrong(ish). Actually very wrong to be honest. But I don't want to discourage you or set you along the wrong path.
The only one along the right lines is the mould thing, number two. But can you explain the process of it a bit more? How you would use it?
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 18:38:35 GMT
Number 4 is animal related, that's the only one to be so.
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Post by bjd on Mar 15, 2010 18:47:12 GMT
Is the last thing for attaching to a machine for sewing leather?
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 19:09:23 GMT
The last thing is the machine by itself, it's not attached to anything else. Obviously leather is involved as it refers to it, it says, 'Keep leather clean' and the leather it refers to is the leather of the disc inside, it's not wood or anything.
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Post by onlymark on Mar 15, 2010 19:11:36 GMT
Photo 2 - I've not minded that it is a bit misleading. But it is not two halves of one thing, they are two separate things, two of the same thing.
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