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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 11:45:33 GMT
Just about anybody who was once a child can remember how the need to pee increased proportionally the closer that you got to the place of release. And quite a few kids had started before they even got there.
A couple of months ago, I found that I was returning to second childhood because if I felt even the slightest need to urinate as I was heading home (even from the other side of the city), there was no "problem" until I reached my building, but by the time I was putting the key in the lock of my apartment, I was ready to rip the hinges off to get to the WC.
I found this totally ridiculous because it was all in my head. Many times I have felt a "pee twinge" at the cinema just after having sat down, but I can sit there and watch the movie for two hours with no problem. Why should it be any different depending on how close I am to home?
After about two weeks of this, I decided that I was fed up with my bladder trying to control me, so I set up a whole procedure of things to do before I peed such as 1. open the door 2. hang coat on hook 3. turn on computer 4. check for phone messages etc. This worked rather well (no more ripping the door off the hinges), but nevertheless by the time I reached the end of the list of obligatory things to do, I was ready to pee my pants anyway just because I knew I had reached the end of the list.
However, now things are pretty much back to normal and I can go home calmly and just get around to peeing whenever I feel like it. But I am still wondering what set off this episode?
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Post by anshjain97 on Mar 22, 2013 13:29:01 GMT
Actually I have this now- for around maybe two years. It is by large in my daily routine- and it's annoying. Sometimes I try to control it, mostly though I just give up.
This is now a small worry on some trips around- the lack of availability of toilets around can be a problem.
But what do you mean by "place of release?"
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Post by tod2 on Mar 22, 2013 14:24:50 GMT
Kerouac you are not alone in this bladder behaviour! I can feel like I need to go pee-pee but still continue to wander around the shops, get in my car , drive home, but boy when I start walking towards the front door I am almost cross-legged from the sudden urgency. Lately, just a few days ago actually, as I entered the toilet I couldn't get my knickers off fast enough and left a little sploge. ( a sploge is a small splash) ;D Most annoying - so now I go potty at every opportunity. Just like Queen Elizabeth said: "Always avail yourself at an opportunity to use a toilet" or something along those lines.
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Post by anshjain97 on Mar 22, 2013 14:28:22 GMT
Actually once I feel the need to go- I can't control it for more than 5 minutes (or less- no exaggeration). I just have to go. Usually this happens every 1 hr or so, despite my low water intake.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 15:19:21 GMT
Well, that is probably not psychological then and more of a real medical problem. My stepfather suffered from this and was a total expert in scoping out any new area to see where the restrooms were so that he could avail himself of them as quickly as necessary.
In his declining years, he kept a spare pair of trousers in the boot of the car at all times.
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Post by tod2 on Mar 22, 2013 17:24:23 GMT
Anshjain - That is not normal. There is a remedy advertised in one of the magazines I get and I've seen a big ad on TV some time ago for lessening the urgency to go pee. I think a lot of it has to do with age. I'm 68 but my mother of 91 has to wear sanitary towels in the day and at night a more absorbent one. She says she's leaking like a an old boat...
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Post by lagatta on Mar 22, 2013 18:31:37 GMT
It's especially not normal at Anshjain's age! You may have a urinary tract infection, which should be easy to cure. This is counterintuitive, I know, but you may have to drink MORE water to flush the infection out of the urethra.
I have the same problem as kerouac; indeed, to some extent it is simply an ageing thing (which starts before one is really "old") but it is highly psychological as I can go for hours with no thought of peeing and then have to rush up the stairs and into the loo. I also try to do some other things before, but at times the urge is too great.
Tod, those incontinence towels are also very expensive. Sanitary towels not so much, but still, wearing them all month long adds up...
The lack of public facilities is a serious health problem, even in wealthy "Northern" countries. I like the fact that the self-cleaning toilets are free now, in Paris. (Think we have an old thread about them).
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Post by anshjain97 on Mar 23, 2013 15:06:00 GMT
Thanks, all.
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Post by questa on Aug 19, 2013 7:41:01 GMT
This is a very common thing and has the charming name of "key-in-the-door Syndrome"
Google it for full details.
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Post by mossie on Aug 19, 2013 14:30:52 GMT
It's all in the mind, keeps it lubricated Sorry to boast about my flying days, but a "pre flight pee" was a very sensible precaution. Nowadays I still continue the habit, before I leave the house, or a cafe etc, the toilet is the last port of call. Actually most of the planes I flew in had no provision, so "tie a knot in it" was the only solution. In the Mosquito we did have a stainless steel cup, connected to the bottom of the aircraft by a slim rubber hose. This cup clipped to a bulkhead between our seats just above floor level (it was a two seater plane). I only used it once and on clipping it back in place most of the pee ran back onto the floor. On complaining to the groundcrew on landing, it was found that some awful insect had made its nest in the hose outlet.
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Post by fumobici on Aug 19, 2013 15:02:22 GMT
In so many countries of course men are allowed to pee pretty much any time and anywhere the need strikes. Is this simple pragmatism or a sign of a lack of civilized decorum?
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Post by tod2 on Aug 19, 2013 15:11:40 GMT
Ours is just such a country fumboci! Here they learn at a very young age...... ;D
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Post by questa on Aug 19, 2013 23:19:26 GMT
I read a story of 2 families meeting for a picnic in Edwardian times. A little girl (who had no brothers) noticed her male cousin relieving himself as pictured above. "My goodness" she said, "that's a handy thing to have on a picnic!"
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Post by questa on Aug 19, 2013 23:29:10 GMT
In so many countries of course men are allowed to pee pretty much any time and anywhere the need strikes. Is this simple pragmatism or a sign of a lack of civilized decorum? In horse and cart days English law allowed the cart driver to discreetly relieve himself on the back wheel on the traffic (not footpath) side of his cart. During the debate in Parliament about this, one practical lady MP coined the well known phrase, "they can do what they must in the street, so long as it doesn't scare the horses."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 5:12:34 GMT
During the Tour de France, the entire peleton stops at the same time when a pee break is decided.
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Post by patricklondon on Aug 20, 2013 6:35:58 GMT
I understand one of the secret pieces of wisdom imparted to royal personages in their training (for the business of smiling graciously and pretending profound interest in whatever widget-machine is being displayed to them) is "Never pass up an opportunity".
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Post by tod2 on Aug 20, 2013 7:12:20 GMT
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In horse and cart days English law allowed the cart driver to discreetly relieve himself on the back wheel on the traffic (not footpath) side of his cart. During the debate in Parliament about this, one practical lady MP coined the well known phrase, "they can do what they must in the street, so long as it doesn't scare the horses."[/quote]
This reminded me of an incident that took place at Johannesburg airport few years ago. Some ministerial officials were being flown in for a conference - the pilot was a friend of ours and that's how we got to hear about it..... As the officials made their way down the steps of the private plane one minister must have had that feeling of urgent urination. He calmly walked over to the front landing gear, took out John Thomas and proceeded to hose down the wheel. Luckily his bodyguards did not follow suit but did have to go back up the stairs to retrieve some of their forgotten AK47's.
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Post by mossie on Aug 20, 2013 7:22:06 GMT
Peeing on the rear offside wheel was certainly legal for lorry drivers. I well remember doing a job in Watford which passed a large civil service office. I got a huffy complaint that our men were doing it in the street in full view of all the maiden ladies in the upstairs office across the road. I reminded the dragon of the law and that our foreman had asked permission to use the facilities and had been haughtily refused, common dirty workmen were not flavour of the month. That spiked her guns.
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Post by bixaorellana on Aug 20, 2013 16:38:19 GMT
what do you mean by "place of release?" He means the place where it's okay to let go and urinate, i.e., the bathroom. I never knew men had this problem also. I've had to go when it was time to go my whole life and definitely have that panic on approaching the house -- which I do with key in hand. This is a very common thing and has the charming name of "key-in-the-door Syndrome" It even has a name! Thanks, Questa. Actually once I feel the need to go- I can't control it for more than 5 minutes (or less- no exaggeration). I just have to go. Usually this happens every 1 hr or so, [highlight=yellow]despite my low water intake.[/highlight] LaGatta mentioned bladder infection, but even if you're healthy you really want to start drinking normal amounts of water. It's crucial for your health & might even help you to "hold it" longer. Certainly not drinking enough water can cause all kinds of health problems. before I leave the house, or a cafe etc, the toilet is the last port of call. Did everyones mother say "Go before you leave the house"? And, if you got somewhere & whined to use the potty, the response was always, "Why didn't you go before we left the house?" Peeing on the rear offside wheel was certainly legal for lorry drivers. When I lived in Spain as a child, my brother & I had playmates whose house faced the tram turn-around. Whenever the trolley reached the end of the line, the conductor would get out and reverse the cable wheel on the overhead line. After that, he'd always go to the rear wheel and pee. Our little friend acquired a steel whistle, which he immediately realized sounded just like the conductor's. Of course the next step was to carefully time his whistle-blowing for when the conductor was in full bladder-emptying mode. This was a source of great amusement right up until the time he got caught. Tod, your picture of the darling boy watering the flowers reminded me of potty training my son. I asked my grandmother how to go about it & she answered, "Oh, he's a boy. They're easy!" Then she walked him to a corner of the garden, pulled his pants down, & gave him a sharp poke in the back. In his surprise he pee-peed & of course got praised for not going in his pants. That was it -- he was trained!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 16:45:52 GMT
I read about a 'gimmick' that allows one to hold it just a little longer to get through the door and to the toilet ---> if you suck in your breath, it takes a little pressure off your bladder which allows it to expand temporarily and turn off the warning siren.
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Post by mossie on Aug 20, 2013 19:02:13 GMT
What a subject for a thread on a civilised site As an unofficial part of our flying training we were taught how to drink In a session starting about 8 it was considered poor form to go to the toilet before midnight. This had the useful side effect of also teaching us to hold our water while flying, where toilets were not generally available.
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Post by fumobici on Aug 21, 2013 1:36:12 GMT
What a subject for a thread on a civilised site As an unofficial part of our flying training we were taught how to drink In a session starting about 8 it was considered poor form to go to the toilet before midnight. This had the useful side effect of also teaching us to hold our water while flying, where toilets were not generally available. The folk wisdom here is that if out for an evening's libations, the longer one can hold the dam before making the initial bathroom visit, the less one will subsequently need to. "Breaking the seal" is the colloquial term! I think there may be something to it based purely on anecdotal experience.
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Post by mossie on Aug 21, 2013 7:13:38 GMT
Yes, the bladder is being trained. A standard phrase when the time came that one just had to go was "Must dash, my back teeth are floating"
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Post by questa on Aug 21, 2013 10:48:26 GMT
To add to this subject...traffic in Bangkok is so congested that business men driving to and around the city may be hours between places to stop and relieve themselves. Many carry a hospital style urinal "bottle" in their car to make their trip more comfortable.
Gives a whole new meaning to "any port in a storm", doesn't it?
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Post by rikita on Sept 1, 2013 11:18:39 GMT
having to pee when you get home is one thing. but what i also find annoying is having to pee during the night. never used to happen to me, though in the morning it was sometimes urgent. but then, i used to sleep through the night. these days, i am woken, and then i have to pee. sometimes, i fall asleep again before i can go, and a few hours later am woken again and still have to pee. it is quite annoying.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 11:37:06 GMT
What I find even worse is integrating the need to pee into my dreams, where either I can't find a place to pee, or else I pee but I get absolutely no relief from it. And I finally get so disgusted that I wake up and get up to pee. Just so long as it doesn't turn into bedwetting!
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Post by mossie on Sept 1, 2013 14:40:45 GMT
I have reached the stage when I have to go at least twice and sometimes three times, during the night . My advice is "Don't get old". Sometimes I dream about it and then I worry, but the worst hasn't happened, yet
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Post by questa on Sept 1, 2013 23:16:07 GMT
Oh. Mossie...don't worry about getting old...
It surely beats the alternative!
I have heard that if you have a chronic disorder, just look after that well and all the other ailments will benefit from your good life choices.
One reason I love Asia is the respect older people get from those younger. I was a bit nonplussed at being called "grandmother" by total strangers until I realized it was an honour.
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Post by rikita on Sept 2, 2013 10:52:35 GMT
oh yeah the dreaming - sometimes i wake up and notice i have to pee but fall right back asleep and dream that i get up to go pee but somehow that doesn't work out and a short time later i notice i haven't actually gone to pee but again fall back asleep etc. ...
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