|
Post by bixaorellana on Jun 11, 2020 15:45:24 GMT
I realize the title of this thread is verbing nouns with impunity (& a brilliant title it is!), but here is an example of nouning an adjective. Some will come to its defense, but there is something about it that I just don't like: creative used as a noun.
|
|
|
Post by kerouac2 on Jun 11, 2020 15:51:39 GMT
You mean "a creative" instead of a "creative person"?
|
|
|
Post by bixaorellana on Jun 11, 2020 16:13:11 GMT
Yes. Apparently it's been around for a while, but I've seen it much more of late.
|
|
|
Post by kerouac2 on Jun 11, 2020 16:17:59 GMT
That might be a corruption stemming from other languages. In French "créatif" is both a noun and an adjective.
|
|
|
Post by bixaorellana on Jun 11, 2020 16:22:18 GMT
I looked it up and it's listed as an adjective, although below that is the notation that it is used informally as a noun.
cre·a·tive /krēˈādiv/ adjective: creative relating to or involving the imagination or original ideas, especially in the production of an artistic work. "change unleashes people's creative energy" (of a person) having good imagination or original ideas.
noun INFORMAL noun: creative; plural noun: creatives a person who is creative, typically in a professional context.
|
|
|
Post by kerouac2 on May 8, 2021 4:12:52 GMT
I'm not sure if I'm against it, but I am jarred by the articles using the term "to plateau."
|
|
|
Post by onlyMark on May 8, 2021 6:41:50 GMT
noun: creative; plural noun: creatives a person who is creative, typically in a professional context. As in, we have a creative office staffed by creatives?
|
|
|
Post by bixaorellana on May 8, 2021 15:27:15 GMT
Yes, that is how it is used. Don't you hate it?
|
|
|
Post by onlyMark on May 8, 2021 15:34:57 GMT
Very few verbed nouns I accept anyway. This isn't one for sure.
|
|
|
Post by kerouac2 on May 8, 2021 15:37:54 GMT
Which is more acceptable -- levelling off or plateauing?
I actually do see a nuance in meaning -- levelling off sounds more permanent while plateauing might be just a temporary stage.
|
|
|
Post by fumobici on May 9, 2021 20:21:22 GMT
I've found myself less and less bothered by new usages. Can I get the gist of it? If yes, as will be the case for verbed nouns, then fine, job done. English is such a random catch-all pile of words anyway. The point is to communicate rather than impress or distinguish oneself I reckon. It's all so easy to deal with compared to learning a new language.
|
|
|
Post by kerouac2 on Apr 24, 2023 14:42:38 GMT
I am still in total opposition to gifted (for receiving or giving a gift) and training (for travelling by train). I see "training" more and more on travel forums yet these people never say they are planing anywhere. I suppose that they are never carring anywhere because they wouldn't know the proper spelling, not that we care.
|
|
|
Post by whatagain on Apr 24, 2023 18:23:17 GMT
I hate training for trains too.
I saw - not really a noun but ... fleurs à self-couper...
So we also steal some English to make horrors with it...
|
|
|
Post by bixaorellana on Apr 25, 2023 1:53:08 GMT
Ditto on "to gift". Why? It's sounds so arch: "I was gifted a book." If someone GAVE it to you, it is assumed to be a gift.
|
|
|
Post by kerouac2 on Apr 25, 2023 3:49:38 GMT
A gifted person must be someone who receives a lot of presents, right?
|
|
|
Post by bixaorellana on Apr 25, 2023 4:22:02 GMT
It seems we spent a lot of time in the car when I was a child. We could always tell when we were close to a place like Stuckey's on the highway because my dad would get the car up to warp speed in the hope that we wouldn't feel the siren call of the roadside attraction. This always puzzled us because, along with seductive treats like pecan logs, Stuckey's always had the word "GIFTS!" emblazoned over the door. Why didn't Daddy want to stop so we could collect our gifts?
|
|
|
Post by fumobici on Apr 25, 2023 5:20:34 GMT
A gifted person must be someone who receives a lot of presents, right? That was essentially the meaning of it. Unless you consider gifts to only be wrapped in pretty paper.
|
|
|
Post by onlyMark on Apr 25, 2023 8:07:10 GMT
A gifted person must be someone who receives a lot of presents, right? If it is that a gifted book is a book that was gifted then a gifted person is a person that was gifted.
|
|
|
Post by mickthecactus on Apr 25, 2023 8:31:27 GMT
My mother in law’s carer was called Gifty.
|
|