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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 4, 2017 12:34:52 GMT
So, after 1046 days, the search for MH370 has basically ended. A final 440 page Australian report has been released, which I'm sure fully covers every single place that the plane was not found. Obviously, the Malaysian government has not given up, but its activity is now limited to scrutinizing satellite photos.
If this works like losing things at home, the wreckage will probably suddenly appear once the last person has stopped looking. Gremlins are like that.
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 4, 2017 13:30:45 GMT
It was probably a man's look. Mrs Cactus would find it in about 5 minutes.
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Post by Kimby on Mar 8, 2018 18:00:18 GMT
Today marks 4 years since the vanishing. Still no closure...
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Post by mickthecactus on Mar 8, 2018 18:38:40 GMT
My work colleague was the insurance broker for this plane.
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Post by bjd on Mar 8, 2018 18:59:14 GMT
What happens in a case like this? Does the insurance company pay out the cost of the plane? Does the case drag on for years until the plane is found?
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Post by mickthecactus on Mar 8, 2018 19:52:47 GMT
I would think it was paid out some time ago.
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Post by Kimby on Mar 8, 2018 19:57:27 GMT
Maybe if the airlines made sure a bag of gold bars was on each plane, the celebrity salvagers would go looking for lost aircraft. Finders keepers, I think.
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Post by onlyMark on Jun 2, 2022 5:11:33 GMT
This quote from Mick is from the TV series thread ~Been watching a 3 part series about the disappearance of Malaysian Airways MH370. Riveting stuff and they still don’t know why nor have they found the crashed plane. They may start searching again soon. I was gobsmacked with that flight as to how you cannot track exactly where it is at all times and the pilot or crew can trip the switches that turn these things off. I mean, a plane costing millions of whatevers and all those people on board and you have to rely on other methods to do so if the pilot/crew member doesn't want to be tracked. Jeez, Apple AirTags can be bought for $100 for four of them.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jun 2, 2022 7:16:59 GMT
Indeed. There was no mention of the black box flight recorder. I thought that was supposed to signal at all times?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 2, 2022 9:39:55 GMT
It just records... and then you have to find it.
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Post by onlyMark on Jun 2, 2022 10:34:28 GMT
You find it because it has a beacon. It works under water but only last for about a month and has a limited range. I think the whole system about this relies on the if it ain't broke, don't fix it thing until someone finds a way round it and then words are said about changes. But then it costs money to do so. I wondered about having some form of device that is automatically ejected when a crash is imminent that pushes out a signal strong enough to be picked up by satellites, and has a big(ger) battery than now, rather than relying on a passive system whereby you have to know approx where the thing is and then go and find it to pinpoint the signal location. Lo and behold I looked into it and find the US Navy have had this since 1993.
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Post by casimira on Jun 2, 2022 16:10:27 GMT
You're so clever Mark. You may have missed your "calling' and be a millionaire by now.
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Post by onlyMark on Jun 2, 2022 16:23:54 GMT
I'd say the money is secondary to saving lives. The money would have been good though. In fact, the saving lives thing would be secondary but used as the main selling point so I became rich. They say money doesn't buy happiness. Maybe not but I'm willing to have a really good time trying to prove it one way or the other.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 2, 2022 17:06:18 GMT
As we all know, just about every safety feature that constructors and authorities decide not to use or install is because it is considered too expensive. And that is generally because the end users (us) would refuse to pay extra for protection from an unlikely situation.
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Post by tod2 on Jun 3, 2022 8:40:22 GMT
Could the crash of Malaysian Airlines MH370 be forever shrouded in mystery or will it reveal something terrible like the South African Airlines "Helderberg" which crashed in 1987 into the Indian Ocean?
The Helderberg carried chemicals used in the manufacture of rocket fuel. In an effort to circumvent anti-apartheid sanctions, the previous government allegedly had the chemicals transported on the commercial flight. It was alleged that when a fire broke out in the cargo hold of the SA Airways plane, the pilot was ordered not to land for fear of the cargo being discovered. All 159 passengers died when the aircraft crashed into the sea off Mauritius. We had a friend and her baby onboard.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jun 3, 2022 8:51:16 GMT
I don’t remember that tod. What an awful story.
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Post by questa on Jun 6, 2022 12:18:23 GMT
There must be thousands of similiar cases when innocents have been just tossed away. Churchill wwasted so many military 'boots on the ground' that the Australian PM recalled troops from Europe.
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Post by questa on Jul 5, 2022 9:12:00 GMT
Do you think that the search would have been abandoned so soon if it was a Euro plane in the Mediterranean?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 5, 2022 10:22:15 GMT
It took them two years to find the Air France flight that went down between Rio and Paris and it did not even deviate from its trajectory. Of course the Atlantic Ocean is much bigger than the Mediterranean.
I think the airplane manufacturers and the insurance companies can be relied upon to do everything possible to find a downed airliner, no matter which airline. But this MH flight definteiy went wonky.
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 3, 2024 6:05:51 GMT
10th anniversary this week! Still no trace except for a few scraps on the African coast.
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Post by lugg on Mar 5, 2024 20:19:54 GMT
10 years !! How did that happen. How awful for the family and friends of those on board that they still dont have any answers
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Post by tod2 on Mar 15, 2024 13:48:46 GMT
I was horrified when I read a few details of the circumstances investigators have revealed. The two men managing to board with false passports and sit in the seats of two other passengers which were on the passenger list but never boarded. I thought Africa was incredibly slack with a lackadaisical attitude to security checks, so realise now that Malaysia must be more 3rd World than I thought. Its a sad and bad thing not knowing, but I am confident Mother Nature or King Neptune will one day spit out where the main wreckage lies.
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Post by questaredux on Mar 17, 2024 2:27:48 GMT
More likely a hyper-rich treasure hunter will do a deal with whomever has the rights to the site and will release docos and (Heaven forfend) aerial and ocean going tourist flights over the site, dropping wreathes. The recent finding of Amelia Earhart's remains (maybe) shows that mysteries are more beguiling when measured in fathoms.
All the safety equipment is useless when the flight is in the hands of an intelligent, creative planner whose attention to detail hid the fact that he was stark, staring bonkers. This is where air safety must begin, the gadgets are there to back up observations and decisions, not replace them.
(Check in counter"do you want a pilot with fast reflexes, charming manner and up to date with all the changes...or do you want an old guy who has seen and done it all, and still walks away from each landing?"
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