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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 11, 2019 20:17:38 GMT
I'm putting this in Words That You Hate even though I maintain this is not a real word:
judgy
Yes, it does mean judgmental, but the new stupid version has been taken up by the usual sheep who have no true command of plain English to begin with.
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Post by bjd on Jan 12, 2019 6:08:03 GMT
As I do the NY Times crossword puzzle every day, I keep finding words used wrongly: nouns used as adjectives and defined as such. I don't know whether it's to make the puzzles more difficult or whether it is simply bad usage. I suspect the latter.
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Post by casimira on Jan 15, 2019 23:04:13 GMT
I haven't heard the word "judgy" used but wholeheartedly agree that I would bristle at the first sound of it's usage.
BJD, a very good friend of ours has a dart board with Will Shortz's picture on it.
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Post by bixaorellana on Aug 20, 2019 15:57:23 GMT
Re: judgy ~ it appears there is a whole category of words which seem to have been made by three year olds, i.e., words created by the uniformed. Since posting about judgy a few months ago, I have heard or read all of these: judgy, rapey, murdery.
The hoary original childish non-word is probably veggie (*shudder*), but it now appears that comfy has joined it in edging out the correct original word.
These are undoubtedly all created and promulgated by the same witless people who now say mom when mother would be more appropriate.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 3, 2019 3:06:41 GMT
re: my last post ~ I heard "gorgy" used in place of the word gorgeous. Why -- because it has fewer syllables?! Here are two that are more about the usage of words, rather than the words themselves: "Actually" as a verbal tic. Q "Are you leaving now?" A "I'm actually going to lunch." Q "Do you know John Doe?" A "We actually work at the same place." etc. "Hate on". What is wrong with just plain old hate? What does "hate on" even mean?!
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Post by bjd on Sept 3, 2019 8:26:21 GMT
I keep finding words being shortened for no apparent reason. My main contact for US English is the NY Times crossword but I find it more and more difficult/annoying to get words defined as "informal" or "for short": Fro for Afro (as in hairdo), dos for hairdos, etc.
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Post by questa on Sept 3, 2019 14:18:19 GMT
Three cheers for the English Language which is constantly growing, receding, flexing and words that are like amoebae in that they divide and subdivide into many nuances of the original, but share the same nucleus. This living thing has resisted the confines of the Fowlers of this world or the committees that try to nail it down with laws and boundaries. It is a beautiful language, full of subtlety and shades of degree. One might be comfortable in a hospital bed, but never comfy like one's own bed. English has room for the coming and going of generational buzz words and tribal dialects. English has absorbed words, grammar and spelling from every other language and shared its words with most languages of today in some form. Let's not get persnickety over modifications from the original, words come and go "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".
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Post by kerouac2 on Sept 3, 2019 15:00:34 GMT
Actually the French, particularly the younger generations, are doing the same thing with just about any word that has more than two syllables.
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Post by fumobici on Sept 3, 2019 15:44:26 GMT
Questa, thank you for articulating my feelings about colloquial informalism, neologism, and the ever-changing parade of slang. I may find some of this annoying, but it represents a living, evolving, healthy language.
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Post by kerouac2 on Sept 3, 2019 15:56:50 GMT
And yet often it represents a condensed form of ignorance, when people are saying things and don't even know the original word that was transformed -- and of course get the whole meaning wrong. Then again, I could care less.
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Post by whatagain on Sept 3, 2019 16:02:19 GMT
I hate when words get another meaning because of ignorance. Got some examples - in french. Conséquent is more and more used as synonym to important and forget about the consequences. Another thing that drives me crazy is 2 alternatives. Une alternative is already giving 2 possibilities. But I become an old grumpy guy.
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Post by onlyMark on Sept 8, 2019 20:30:21 GMT
I watched CNN for ten minutes tonight. That's all I could stand. During an interview, the interviewer used the words several times - aesthetic, metric, optic and outreach - as in "What are your optics on that?" The interviewee carried on as though they were normal words in that type of context for him. I'd be asking, "My what?"
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 8, 2019 21:01:58 GMT
Seriously annoying! It's not only a made up usage, it's so obnoxiously insider-ish, with the smug assumption that you need to find out what to think from the experts on the show.
I had to go look up "optics", as I had assumed that its usage as you quote it meant videotape or photos, but no ~
op·tics /ˈäptiks/
noun 1. the scientific study of sight and the behavior of light, or the properties of transmission and deflection of other forms of radiation. 2. NORTH AMERICAN (typically in a political context) the way in which an event or course of action is perceived by the public. "the issue itself is secondary to the optics of the Democrats opposing this administration in a high-profile way"
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Post by lagatta on Sept 8, 2019 22:18:11 GMT
I was familiar with the former usage; much less with the latter, which is in-group speak. By the way, I think my use of "speak" comes straight from George Orwell's Newspeak, denouncing such gibberish.
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Post by Kimby on Sept 8, 2019 22:21:50 GMT
And yet often it represents a condensed form of ignorance, when people are saying things and don't even know the original word that was transformed -- and of course get the whole meaning wrong. Then again, I could care less. I saw what you did there, K2.
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Post by bixaorellana on Sept 8, 2019 23:17:19 GMT
Ha ~ thanks, Kimby! I did not see it until you mentioned it. In fact, I owe Kerouac an apology for what I thought I saw.
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Post by questa on Sept 9, 2019 15:51:42 GMT
And here is me thinking it was an innocent mistake. Innocent? K2? That'll be the day!
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Post by kerouac2 on Sept 9, 2019 16:01:13 GMT
Clever ladies.
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Post by onlyMark on Oct 7, 2020 8:11:51 GMT
A couple of things - I've just read an article regarding the work/life balance in Germany and how pre-covid there was a general splitting of the two with little blurring of the line between them. But now with home working this line becomes elastic and often gets rubbed out entirely. In an interview a 30's male said - "“As a German, you can imagine that I love my routine,” says Gerrienne. But when lockdown set in, he switched to working from home, which affected his usual schedule." Fair enough thought I. To be expected and not only in Germany. All good so far. Then he explains - "To help cope with the transition, Gerrienne says he began “a very rigid structure” that began in the morning with mediation, exercise, stretching and journaling. A faster, he also trained himself to start getting hungry at 1900." Hold on a minute, what the hell is 'journaling' - the act of writing a journal? Or something more? No idea, but saying "journaling" instead of keeping a diary or whatever? Looking at that word and frequencies of use since 1650, a graph looks like this - books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=journaling&year_start=1650&year_end=2019&corpus=28&smoothing=3Bear in mind the word also means the making of a journal which is "the part of a machine shaft or axle supported by a bearing." and infrequently used until near on the year 2000. Nouns into verbs, hate it when it is completely unnecessary. Then I got sidetracked with - "A faster, he also trained himself to start getting hungry at 1900." No food at all every day until 7pm? What? I thought is was bad for you to eat a big meal in the evening? How does he only have one meal a day? Maybe. Or does he eat again later before going to bed as well? Bad surely? Bad also to take in all your calories in one go. And how the hell do you train yourself not to get hungry? Surely there's money to be made in this? Forget diets, just train yourself not to eat. I'd write a self help book with techniques how to do that and sell millions. Easier by far than wading through all the types of diets, what to eat and when etc and so just not eat, whilst not getting hungry. I'm on to a winner there.
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 7, 2020 8:27:16 GMT
But he was also doing mediation first thing. Perhaps he’s a lawyer.
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Post by onlyMark on Oct 7, 2020 10:17:32 GMT
Hah, yes, missed that misspelling.
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Post by Kimby on Oct 7, 2020 15:54:16 GMT
“Bespoke” is my least favorite new word.
It used to mean custom tailored clothing, but has now been appropriated by trendy hoity toity folks to designate anything special or exclusive.
Who even NEEDS a word like that?
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 7, 2020 16:46:29 GMT
I would have never even guessed what it means in the first place.
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 7, 2020 17:04:23 GMT
The Rich Brothers (who do seem like nice guys) on Garden Rescue use it all the time. Screw four pieces of wood together and bingo -- a bespoke bench!
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Post by lagatta on Oct 7, 2020 19:04:49 GMT
Bespoke is a great word as proprly used: a bespoke suit.
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 7, 2020 20:34:30 GMT
I know what a bicycle spoke is, but anything with be should be spoken.
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Post by lagatta on Oct 8, 2020 0:26:21 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 8, 2020 0:48:02 GMT
Then of course I had to click on bespeak, which I'm now dying to use in a sentence sure to confuse whomever it is who hears it.
I'm surprised that the second meaning of bespeak is not well known and commonly used. It seems quite useful.
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Post by Kimby on Oct 8, 2020 1:52:20 GMT
Well, cough it up, bixa! You’re not gonna make us all rush to our (online) dictionaries, are you?
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 8, 2020 3:14:45 GMT
Didn't you read LaGatta's post?
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