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Post by lagatta on Dec 14, 2014 16:46:21 GMT
Kerouac and others were discussing tinned cassoulet a while back. Now, except for good sardines, tuna and other fishy things, canned food is often seen as second best, as an emergency supply, for people who don't know how to cook (overtaken in this by ready meals) and as donations to food banks. Here is a little piece about the cassoulet: www.frenchrevolutionfood.com/2011/12/the-joys-of-canned-cassoulet/#comment-36677Any other notable foods in tins? And do you "improve" them or doctor them up?
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 14, 2014 17:35:15 GMT
Baked beans are improved by adding them to toast.
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Post by htmb on Dec 14, 2014 18:12:51 GMT
I'm making a batch of black beans for a birthday dinner using canned beans and jarred salsa. I drain off the beans and add chopped garlic, celery and onion that's been sautéed in olive oil before also adding several jars of a good salsa. This time I plan to add beef sausage that has been cut into chunks and also sautéed in the oil first. I'm making it all a day ahead of time and it should get even better sitting overnight in the frig. We like to serve our beans over yellow rice with fresh chopped onion, oil and red wine vinegar for a topping.
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Post by bjd on Dec 14, 2014 18:23:02 GMT
I just started reading that blog abot the cassoulet. Stopped when she put bread crumbs and thyme. La Belle Chaurienne brand is what people here in the southwest buy when they don't make their own, but it is heated simply by grilling in the oven. There are special little dishes for it, "cassolettes", but I just put it in a pan.
It doesn't need any additions!
I use canned red beans when I make chili. Instead of soaking dry ones for hours. I do rinse off the sludge in the can though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 19:33:39 GMT
I have read a number of times that tinned tomatoes (whole, pulped or sauces) are far superior to fresh tomatoes for cooking needs for reasons that I have forgotten and don't really feel like looking up at this precise moment. But I recall that it has something to do with "precooked" tomatoes conserving and even enhancing something or other that is good for us while eliminating elements that are not so good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 20:14:45 GMT
Indeed tin items are most valuable in our cooking repertoire. Most especially stewed or whole tomatoes, and, tomato paste. I've resorted to canned black beans in a pinch, and,treated properly with the right spices and condiments are perfectly acceptable. I think that the only thing I would eschew would be any type of tinned potatoes, several green vegetables,(green beans and spinach or broccoli, cabbage,and numerous others.) Tinned corn treads a thin line, but, in a pinch, I would use it.
It's funny, because tonight I am making a dish and am using tinned artichokes, properly seasoned, with a little know how and a culinary sense, perfectly edible and delicious.
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Post by htmb on Dec 14, 2014 20:26:35 GMT
I am reminded that my family members use canned sweet potatoes for casseroles and pies, and I find the practice fairly disgusting. I'd rather use fresh or go without and think there is a major significance in the quality and flavor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 5:12:02 GMT
All I know is, is that I am on a constant quest to look for tinned tomatoes that DO NOT contain calcium carbonate. They put it in there to keep the tomatoes whole when processing, but mostly they stop the tomatoes from breaking down in a sauce when you want them to. I think it affects the taste, as well. Very few brands don't use it, mostly Italian.
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Post by bjd on Dec 15, 2014 8:12:46 GMT
Since I use canned tomatoes for making tomato sauce, I buy the small cans with tomatoes already smashed up.
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 15, 2014 8:42:06 GMT
All I know is, is that I am on a constant quest to look for tinned tomatoes that DO NOT contain calcium carbonate. I've just looked at a tin I have in the cupboard. There is no calcium carbonate but there is calcium chloride. Same thing?
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Post by bjd on Dec 15, 2014 10:17:16 GMT
I just looked at the can I have in the cupboard. Only contains tomatoes and citric acid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 14:37:24 GMT
Yes, Mark, same thing (to my foggy brain that wrote at 9pm after a cold weekend without electricity and computers). I think I meant calcium chloride.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 18:07:44 GMT
Okay, time for me to look at my tins of tomatoes...
Carrefour tomato pulp: tomatoes, tomato juice, citric acid Dia peeled tomatoes: tomatoes, tomato juice, citric acid Monoprix peeled tomatoes: peeled tomatoes, tomato juice, calcium chloride Elvea tomato paste (Italian brand bought at Auchan Luxembourg): tomatoes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 19:27:01 GMT
Well there you go. The only tomato products that don't consistently use calcium chloride are paste, sauce, passata, and one we have here, ground tomatoes (tomato sludge). Of course, I'm talking supermarket brands, not the $6 tins of San Marzanos.
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Post by lagatta on Dec 16, 2014 1:16:03 GMT
There is none in the ones in my pantry (aka small metal cupboard).
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Post by htmb on Dec 16, 2014 2:52:56 GMT
I'm low on canned tomatoes at the moment. Of the two tins I have, both are Publix brand. The peeled whole tomatoes contain calcium chloride and the organic tomato paste does not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 2:54:15 GMT
Even organic whole tomatoes can contain cc, much to my chagrin.
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Post by lagatta on Apr 5, 2019 22:52:10 GMT
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Post by whatagain on Apr 6, 2019 14:36:56 GMT
I like sardines in cans. Some years ago I threw in the bin most of my cans - all were way beyond date. One can had exploded. Half the content was outside. Since I don't like cans so much.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 6, 2019 15:57:42 GMT
My only exploding can was tomato paste. It completely repainted the ceiling when I pierced it with the can opener.
I see the pretty artisanal tins of sardines when I go to coastal towns. In Etretat, there is a cannery with absolutely beautiful tins. Unfortunately, I do not want to pay three times the usual price for sardines, so most of mine come with a Carrefour or Auchan logo on them.
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Post by lagatta on Apr 6, 2019 16:05:25 GMT
It is important to rotate them. They are safe beyond date, but not eternally. Once when moving I found 20-year-old tins in a corner. No, I didn't open them.
Latvian Riga Gold sprats (in a round tin; they also come jarred) are on promo at one of my favourite shops this coming week. I already have a couple and must put the older ones (no more than a few months old; I like them too much) atop the new ones.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 6, 2019 17:11:11 GMT
I have always seen big tins of pilchards in tomato sauce in all of the Asian supermarkets. I still wonder what they do with them because to me they seem to be the absolute antithesis of Chinese cuisine. Maybe they feed it to the toothless granny in the corner who will swallow anything mushy.
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Post by whatagain on Apr 6, 2019 18:24:36 GMT
I had what we called monkey when we were young. It was corned beef in a tin. I think we got these from K rations and somehow it stuck with some people - like my father.
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Post by kerouac2 on Apr 6, 2019 18:46:30 GMT
It's funny that corned beef is another item always sold in Asian supermarkets -- either the real British stuff or a Chinese copy. Weird.
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