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Post by lagatta on Aug 21, 2016 11:47:08 GMT
Update, Omran's older brother Ali, age 10, has died of his injuries. I don't know anything about whether his parents, other siblings and other close relatives such as uncles and aunts are still alive...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2016 14:09:22 GMT
One report said that his parents were pulled out alive.
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Post by lagatta on Aug 21, 2016 17:52:53 GMT
C'est déjà ça...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 14:08:19 GMT
I thought that this was an interesting article comparing how the "big 5" (UK, Germany, France, Italy, Spain) handle their refugees. It really makes you wonder why so many are (or were) headed for the United Kingdom.
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Post by onlyMark on Mar 1, 2017 14:31:04 GMT
Did anyone actually ask them? Maybe they would know the answer rather than a statistical analysis.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 15:08:34 GMT
Well, the French media are asking them all the time, since this is the last stop before Old Blighty. They think it is the land of milk and honey and that all the streets are paved with gold. More important, it is a country (like the Trump country) that doesn't have obligatory identity cards. What more can you ask?
I live next to the Paris refugee centre (actually it is 500 metres away, but that is too close for comfort for most people when you talk about such things). A whole new refugee camp has sprung up around it since it cannot accommodate everybody. And of course the police just try to keep order since their job is not to initiate repression even though too many local people would like that. Interestingly enough, the street on the back side of my flat seems to have become the Sudanese/Somali area. Crowds of them hang out there all day (at the other end of rue Philippe de Girard, not my aristocratic rich end) just because there is nothing else to do. Some of the earlier arrivals seem to have understood that France is actually the land of milk and honey because there are already a half dozen shops and restaurants that have moved in. One of them where I cannot help smiling as I walk by is called "Sudan Center" and its front window displays all sorts of perfumes and eaux de toilette, which I presume are of an extremely high priority when you are a refugee. (On a less humouristic note, I bet they sell a lot of it because when you have arrived in Europe and have many family members back in Sudan including Mum, it is very important to show them that you are a success if you send anything home to them.)
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Post by mossie on Mar 1, 2017 19:50:50 GMT
It does really annoy me that we no longer have identity cards. When I went to school in Canterbury during the war, the bus would be stopped by armed soldiers at a point about 3 miles from the city and a soldier would come through the bus inspecting everyones identity card. No card, then off the bus and no doubt some serious questions, simple. We are now ruled by politically correct prats who are afraid to upset mice, let alone illegal immigrants. They all head here because they get schooled at home in our social security system and the right tales to spin to get max sympathy and cash and goodies handed out free. We could do with Mr Trump here to stiffen a few backbones and kick a lot of backsides.
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Post by rikita on Mar 23, 2017 0:15:12 GMT
*turning on internal ignore button*
*breathing*
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anyway, i suppose language is a big factor.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 26, 2017 17:32:57 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 12, 2018 21:08:25 GMT
I sent a donation to the Aquarius refugee ship tonight.
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Post by whatagain on Jun 12, 2018 22:22:24 GMT
Is it not a beverage ?
I was asked to donate for a ship that did some surgery and their 'request' was disgusting. Like 'don't read further' unless you are a bad person. And when you read further they told you someone died because people didn't donate. And enclosed a picture of the dead person.
But I think Aquarius is ok. I'll check but I donate enough ( meaning not enough but I have reached my limit) for the moment.
I think donating is a very correct thing to do by the way. Esp when so much money us syphoned via our taxes but we still want to make a difference. Good of you Kerouac.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 27, 2018 15:13:58 GMT
Thank god, France and some of the other countries have been shamed into taking some of the refugees from those boats. If only if it were a little less like pulling teeth to convince them to do the moral thing.
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Post by whatagain on Jun 27, 2018 15:18:26 GMT
Sadly morals don't win votes. I am in Poland now and it seems they like other former east European countries like refugees even less than us in the west.
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Post by kerouac2 on Aug 13, 2018 16:03:32 GMT
The Aquarius has another 141 migrants rescued from the waters off Libya. Italy and Malta have already refused to accept the ship. The port of Sète in France says it will welcome it. I hope they can do it, but it will depend on what the French government authorities decide...
I've got my fingers crossed.
It should be mentioned that Sète is the port from which the refugee ship Exodus sailed in 1947 with 4500 people bound for Palestine. The British navy blocked the ship and made it go to Cyprus. All of the passengers were sent to Germany, probably the last place on the planet where they wanted to go. The ship itself was destroyed by a fire in the port of Haifa in 1952.
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Post by bixaorellana on Aug 13, 2018 19:50:59 GMT
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