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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 17:16:18 GMT
Oh, and the US politics is either pro-Bernie or people having fun baiting Trump supporters. I don't have anyone on my feed who is frightening, like htmb has.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 7, 2016 17:30:05 GMT
Lizzy's way of being on Facebook shows how the social media monster can be controlled and enjoyed. BUT ~ to keep from derailing this thread & to learn how to safely use FB, please go HERE.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 20:11:12 GMT
I thought our posts were apposite, discussing, as they were, the impact fb was having on our perceptions of the election. Oh well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 21:51:45 GMT
The French press is saying that Michigan is Bernie Sanders' last chance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 22:25:34 GMT
I've read lots of accounts that say that isn't true. I don't know.
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Post by lagatta on Mar 8, 2016 0:08:42 GMT
Lizzie, I'll probably join for that reason (much as I hate it). I'm on Linkedin (as traduction lagatta) but I think Fessebook might give me more exposure - for better and worse). I've been seriously harassed and threatened online, so it does frighten me.
As per Sanders, I suspect that unless he is thoroughly trounced, he might well plough through up to the Dem Convention. He has policy points to make and has been making them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2016 0:21:27 GMT
I'm sorry you've been harrassed, lagatta. I have no such fears, but I can understand why that gives you pause.
Fessebook. I like it!
Back to the election! (Although I've told my husband I don't want to hear any more about it until after it's over. I am beyond sick of it already.)
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Post by fumobici on Mar 8, 2016 1:25:28 GMT
The count of actual committed delegates isn't that lopsided and the nominating process is front loaded for Clinton by its early disproportionately Southern geographical skew. The press has been trying to bury the Sanders candidacy with every tool in their box--the Clinton is the inevitable winner seems to be one of their favorites. She's going to need a solid lead in committed delegates once the subpoenas and indictments start, she's never increased her lead during any election she's ever run in and there's a legal cloud over her head this time. If Hillary's the nominee I look for a GOP across the board sweep on all the downticket stuff, she'll kill Democratic turnout. Sanders beats Trump easy; Clinton *might*.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 9, 2016 5:27:06 GMT
Yes!!!Bernie Sanders pulled off his biggest win of the Democratic presidential race on Tuesday, defeating Hillary Clinton in the Michigan primary source
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Post by lagatta on Mar 9, 2016 11:53:16 GMT
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Post by lagatta on Mar 9, 2016 11:57:50 GMT
And of course this one
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 14:53:10 GMT
What a pleasant surprise to wake up to!!!
When I went to bed last night I did a last minute check and a Clinton win appeared to be a sure thing.
Fumobici,I totally agree with you regarding Clinton's legal woes looming over her. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The main stream media machine is doing their darnedest to sweep it under the rug. (My husband refers to CNN as The Clinton News Network).
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 9, 2016 15:01:45 GMT
Pee ess ~ Fumobici, I was not ignoring what you said, in fact wrote you a reply but the @$%^& server went out & it was lost. In my fury, I didn't re-write. Anyway, short version: you are so right!
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Post by lagatta on Mar 9, 2016 15:05:04 GMT
Ha! I feel like a neighbour leaning out my window or standing on the balcony observing the goings-on...
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 9, 2016 15:07:57 GMT
You sound like my great-uncle from Mississippi who followed Louisiana politics all his life. He said, "Why should I care about Mississippi when I have a circus next door?"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 15:19:22 GMT
Time seems to be on Sanders side with regard to his building up momentum prior to going into the so called keystone states along with states such as Washington, Wisconsin, then, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and California.( I refuse to consider Hillary a NYer).
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Post by fumobici on Mar 9, 2016 15:44:31 GMT
People like me afraid of the prospect of a Trump administration will need to get behind Bernie. He's fighting not only the entire mainstream press (WaPO, NYT, CNN, and MSNBC--even bizarrely the Guardian, I'm looking at you), Wall St., the tax dodging multinationals who predominately fund the Clinton campaign (and the DP, may it forever shame them), and the entire DC beltway establishment, but the Democratic Party itself which would it seems clearly rather lose to Trump with Hillary than win with Sanders for reasons seemingly of purely personal privilege and continuing access.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 15:59:22 GMT
"access" AND Excess. A lot of people are counting on a Clinton win as there is such an obscene amount of money at stake.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 9, 2016 17:10:49 GMT
Fumobici wrote: "... the Democratic Party itself which would it seems clearly rather lose to Trump with Hillary than win with Sanders for reasons seemingly of purely personal privilege and continuing access."
The irony is that Sanders wants to allow everyone the benefits that their taxes should have been affording them all along -- the kind of "give-away" that the Democratic Party is often accused of but would never do because they like the American public just the way they are: easily controlled with scare tactics and coughing up taxes without expecting much in return.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 18:08:45 GMT
The problem with a Sanders presidency (which I do not feel is impossible) would be that he would still have Congress against him, even a Democratic congress, unless.... a large number of Democratic politicians have been totally hypocritical over the years and just pretending to be middle-of-the-road harmless dunces just to stay in office. Would they suddenly throw off their sheep's clothing and come out as socialist pinkos?
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Post by bjd on Mar 9, 2016 19:59:14 GMT
Given the number of poor and working-class Americans who vote against their own interests (for example, the Republican-fed opposition to the health care law), I cannot imagine that Sanders would ever be elected.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2016 15:08:43 GMT
I really hate to even bring this up but as we edge closer and closer toward the actual election (it seems like it will never happen), I can't help but feel that some tragic, ominous event is looming. There so many crazzzzy fanatical whackjobs out there and the frenzy seems to be ever increasing.
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Post by htmb on Mar 10, 2016 15:30:05 GMT
Bernie will be speaking on the University of Florida campus a half hour from now. I know a few people who will be attending. The paper has a list of items that can be brought into the outdoor area (keys, wallets, very small bags of food. No drinks, backpacks, large items).
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Post by whatagain on Mar 10, 2016 21:01:23 GMT
74 years old. Like my father actually. Hilary 68 years old. Mandate is 4 years - Bernie would be 78 at the end. Probability that he has Alzheimer by then ?
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 10, 2016 21:16:02 GMT
My mother is 88 and is sharp as she ever was, which is very sharp indeed. My grandmother died at 94 with her faculties intact. Dementia does not automatically come with age.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2016 21:20:51 GMT
Probablility is that 15% of people over the age of 65 show some signs of dementia. I think he's doing OK.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 0:15:35 GMT
My sentiments exactly ladies. All the women on both sides of my family lived long, long lives. My mother just shy of 90 but, sharp as a tack, heart problems did her in with no discomfort. I, having not lived as healthy a lifestyle as all of the aforementioned, have already reconciled myself with the fact I won't live that long. I just want to grow old gracefully in my own garden peacefully. Why am I having to defend clarity and state of mind in this thread about elections? F ME!!!!
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Post by lagatta on Mar 11, 2016 7:05:18 GMT
They have to stand down if they are incompetent; unfortunately it seems that Ronald Reagan's handlers maintained him in office when he was no longer. It would probably be wise for Sanders or Clinton to choose a VP who is a generation younger. I can't bring myself to use "wise" and "Trump" in the same sentence...
Bernie was thoroughly vetted for heart and other conditions that get more common with advancing age.
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Post by htmb on Mar 12, 2016 1:49:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 1:49:45 GMT
It's only going to get worse... With "Super Tuesday" days away I fear many more incidents of this nature or worse are going to "go down".
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