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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 28, 2021 17:47:46 GMT
You may have missed the precious First Amendment -- "freedom of speech". It is almost as important as the Second Amendment -- "licence to kill". It is interesting to note that these are just amendments and were left out of the original constitution. But they seem to be more important than the constitution now.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 28, 2021 19:56:29 GMT
surely calling for people to be killed is a criminal offence in its own right? Well, yes. That's the short answer. Much more here. The House minority leader, Kevin McCarthy will have a "conversation" with Taylor-Greene about her threatening posts. That should fix everything. news.yahoo.com/house-minority-leader-kevin-mccarthy-061411398.htmlAnd the First Amendment is precious. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.Even though most of the framers of the constitution were born in the 13 colonies of what is now the US, they had essentially lived their lives under British rule, and aspects of the US constitution reflect that, often in reaction against it. When Sir William Blackstone wrote his famous Commentaries on the Laws of England in the mid-18th century, he defined freedom of speech as the lack of prior restraint. By that he meant that the government could not stop someone from saying or publishing what he believed, but once a person had uttered those remarks, he could be punished if the type of speech was forbidden. The English, like the ancient Greeks, had established legal restrictions on three types of speech — sedition (criticism of the government), defamation (criticism of individuals), and blasphemy (criticism of religion) — each of which they called "libels." Of these three, the one that is most important in terms of political liberty is seditious libel, because ruling elites in Blackstone's era believed that any criticism of government or of its officials, even if true, subverted public order by undermining confidence in the government. While the government, according to Blackstone, could not stop someone from criticizing the government, it could punish him once he had done so. source The whole way that the Second Amendment is taken out of context and misused is a subject for the gun control thread.
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Post by fumobici on Jan 29, 2021 4:10:16 GMT
I’m wondering, what can old school conservative citizens be thinking about all this. They can’t ALL be racist, gun-toting, conspiracy theorists, can they? No, but a majority probably are.
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Post by bjd on Jan 29, 2021 6:08:24 GMT
I just read that the same Kevin McCarthy who will talk to MsGreene went to see Trump, kiss his ring and ask for forgiveness for saying that Trump was responsible for the Capitol riots. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55850449
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Post by whatagain on Jan 29, 2021 6:13:25 GMT
I just read that the same Kevin McCarthy who will talk to MsGreene went to see Trump, kiss his ring and ask for forgiveness for saying that Trump was responsible for the Capitol riots. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55850449I read the dame from CNN. They don't expect him to be that raah to Green... And predict the GOP to turn into more trumpist, more QAnonist and more complotist... Seems the Republucans have lost their soul, their guts their intelligence and their honor.
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Post by bjd on Jan 29, 2021 6:17:52 GMT
Maybe it's time for a 3rd party in the States? Or even more and then they could build coalitions?
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Post by Kimby on May 27, 2021 17:17:04 GMT
Wasn't sure where to put this. Vanity Fair: TRUMP’S INNER CIRCLE IS REPORTEDLY SOILING ITSELF AT THE LIKELIHOOD OF CRIMINAL CHARGES, AS IT SHOULD BE Trumpworld is said to be panicked about a grand jury hearing evidence against the ex-president, the Trump Organization and its executives. As you‘ve no doubt heard by now, on Tuesday, The Washington Post broke the news that the Manhattan district attorney has convened a grand jury to hear evidence against Donald Trump. According to legal experts, this is a major development in Cyrus Vance Jr.’s criminal investigation; as former assistant district attorney Rebecca Roiphe told the Post, it’s unlikely that Vance’s office would have taken such a step without believing it can prove Trump, the Trump Organization, or a Trump Organization executive committed a crime. “The prosecutors are convinced they have a case,” Roiphe said. “That’s at least how I read it.” As former U.S. attorney Preet Bharara told CNN, “It’s significant…they must have come across some evidence as to somebody’s state of mind. That the misconduct they were investigating does not seem to be the product of negligence or recklessness or mistake but intentional criminality.” And as a result, people surrounding the ex-president are said to be more than a little freaked out, as they probably should be! According to Politico Playbook, which spoke to members of “Trump world” after the news came out, “There’s definitely a cloud of nerves in the air.” One adviser told the outlet that while Trump is no stranger to legal issues, this situation feels different, in part because prosecutors are pressuring Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, who’s described himself as Trump’s “eyes and ears” at the company, to flip. “I think the Weisselberg involvement and the wild card of that makes the particular situation more real, because there’s no sort of fluff and made-up fictional circumstances around the guy,” an adviser told Politico. “The fact that they’re dealing with a numbers guy who just has plain details makes people more nervous. This is not a Michael Cohen situation.” According to Politico legal affairs contributor Josh Gerstein, the grand jury “is expected to go beyond assembling records by hearing live testimony from various witnesses—which will give prosecutors an opportunity to present a narrative that could persuade jurors to return an indictment in the coming months. Coupled with [New York] Attorney General Letitia James’s recent decision to team up with Vance and Vance’s hiring of veteran mafia prosecutor Mark Pomerantz, the move to a new grand jury suggests a steady progression towards criminal charges against some person or company in the Trump orbit.” Of course, despite the fact that Trump may very well be privately shitting himself over the news, his public response was a typical meltdown and rehashing of things he’s said in the past—namely, that all of this is a “witch hunt” and that he’s a saint beloved the world over. In a statement, he wrote, or more likely dictated to some poor scribe: “This is a continuation of the greatest Witch Hunt in American history. It began the day I came down the escalator in Trump Tower, and it’s never stopped…. This is purely political, and an affront to the almost 75 million voters who supported me in the Presidential Election, and it’s being driven by highly partisan Democrat prosecutors. New York City and State are suffering the highest crime rates in their history, and instead of going after murderers, drug dealers, human traffickers, and others, they come after Donald Trump. Interesting that today a poll came out indicating I’m far in the lead for the Republican Presidential Primary and the General Election in 2024.” As for Trump’s actual political aspirations, he will undoubtedly tease another White House run until the very last second before making an actual announcement, though aides have claimed to Politico that “he’s missing being president terribly,” and supposedly gets angry when people question if he’s serious about running again. He’s also inserted himself in the 2022 midterm elections, despite the fact that his endorsements are actually the kiss of death. Per Politico: “With an eye toward winning back the House and Senate in the 2022 midterm elections, former President Donald Trump has begun crafting a policy agenda outlining a MAGA doctrine for the party. His template is the 1994 “Contract with America,” a legislative agenda released ahead of the midterm elections in the middle of President Bill Clinton’s first term. And, as a cherry on top, he’s teaming up with its main architect—[Newt] Gingrich—to do it. In recent weeks, Trump sat down with the former House speaker as well as his former chief of staff Mark Meadows and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) at his private Mar-a-Lago club to begin crafting the document, according to a source familiar with the meeting. The group is still just beginning to hammer out the details of what a Trumpified Contract might look like. But it is likely to take an “America-First” policy approach on everything from trade to immigration. The source described it as “a policy priority for 2022 and beyond.” Presumably, anyone looking for Trump’s endorsement would have to sign the Trump Contract in blood, though according to analysis by Bloomberg, candidates hoping to actually win a seat might want to avoid the ex-president’s stamp of approval. While his endorsement helped Republicans win primaries in 2020, 40 of his 183 endorsed candidates lost, and in 2018, the GOP could have picked up at least 11 more House seats and four in the Senate had Trump stayed on the sidelines.
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Post by fumobici on May 27, 2021 18:38:49 GMT
I won't be sorry to see Trump get charged, tried, and convicted but this is the same liberal press that spent the last two years of Trump's term breathlessly telling us that his impeachment and removal from office was imminent, even inevitable, based on the Russiagate scandal, which ultimately went almost nowhere and was proven massively overhyped. I'll believe it when I see the cuffs slapped on DJT as he's led from a courtroom and not one second sooner.
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Post by Kimby on May 27, 2021 18:46:33 GMT
It’s possible his deranged posts as “Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States” are a ploy to get declared not fit to stand trial. He could end up confined to house arrest with its gold-plated toilet instead of facing the music for his treasonous actions...
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Post by htmb on May 27, 2021 18:47:08 GMT
Same here, fumobici.
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Post by casimira on May 27, 2021 19:43:31 GMT
Considering the source being Vanity Fair, I would not rely on them being very credible and take anything they print with more than a grain of salt. This is just my own personal opinion of that rag.
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Post by bixaorellana on May 27, 2021 19:57:15 GMT
... this is the same liberal press that spent the last two years of Trump's term breathlessly telling us that his impeachment and removal from office was imminent ... ... and all of 2016 giving him more free publicity than money could buy.
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Post by whatagain on May 29, 2021 7:27:52 GMT
Senators vote against a bipartisan full inquiry on the events of 6th of Jan. Disgusting faggots chose the leader above their conscience and their duty. Nazi officers have reacted identically when their great leader was questioned. GOP is niw a bunch of yesmen and yeswomen, totally infeodated to their idiotic boss. I think US republicans have lost the right to critise Putin, Erdogan etc.
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Post by htmb on Jul 25, 2021 18:51:22 GMT
I recently received a letter from my county supervisor of elections that states: “Changes resulting from the most recent legislative sessions Senate Bill 90 require a voter to verify either his or her Social Security Number or Florida Driver License/Florida ID number.”
The letter goes on to say that, since I first registered to vote back when we were using stone tablets, and this information wasn’t required, my information needed to be updated in the state system. I’ve just done so on-line and assume I’ll be receiving an updated voter ID card. Of course, this issue has arisen due to the passing of updated voter laws, but I knew our elections supervisor would be spot on in making sure residents were kept up to date. In Florida, any qualified adult wishing to register to vote must provide either a valid Florida Drivers License/Florida ID or a Social Security number.
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Post by htmb on Jul 30, 2021 21:51:01 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 22, 2023 18:11:38 GMT
This video will be of no interest to anyone with no knowledge of American politics and gerrymandering, and even I did not watch it all the way through to the end, but it presents issues that are essential to American elections.
Of course gerrymandering exists in other countries but probably not to the extent of the United States. (And of course not at all in countries with fully proportional elections.)
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Post by whatagain on Oct 22, 2023 19:25:20 GMT
Interesting.
Btw do the Republicans not risk looking like fools for not appointing a chairman if the house ? Been a few weeks now …
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 22, 2023 20:02:31 GMT
Clearly, they are not preoccupied by it. The spiritual leader of many of them has made it clear that acting responsibly is no longer anything about which to worry.
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Post by kerouac2 on Nov 5, 2023 19:12:55 GMT
According to the latest poll in the New York Times, Trump is well ahead of Biden for the 2024 election, notably in 5 of the 6 states that made a difference in the last election (Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania). Of the people polled, they said that Trump was better than Biden for the economy, immigration, national security and the war in Israel. (No mention of the war in Ukraine.)
I just don't know what to think about American politics anymore.
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Post by kerouac2 on Feb 9, 2024 5:24:47 GMT
Is it going to be an election or a wrestling match betwen two senile men?
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Post by bjd on Feb 9, 2024 6:46:08 GMT
Is it going to be an election or a wrestling match betwen two senile men? If it was, I imagine Trump would play dirty and cheat.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Feb 9, 2024 13:51:52 GMT
The world has gone mad.
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