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Post by patricklondon on Jan 8, 2019 8:22:29 GMT
From the NYT before the paywall BREAKING NEWS President Trump wants to give a prime time address on the federal shutdown this week and will travel to the border to make his case for a wall. I suppose it wouldn't be possible for someone to build it quickly on the American side of him?
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 8, 2019 8:51:53 GMT
From the NYT before the paywall BREAKING NEWS President Trump wants to give a prime time address on the federal shutdown this week and will travel to the border to make his case for a wall. I suppose it wouldn't be possible for someone to build it quickly on the American side of him? 😂😂
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Post by mossie on Jan 8, 2019 11:57:39 GMT
So creating “Great America” and leave the little Americans languishing in no mans land
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Post by Kimby on Jan 8, 2019 15:12:23 GMT
He will claim that the re-negotiation of NAFTA will more than make up for Mexico not paying for the wall.
What a clusterf*ck this “administration” is!
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 8, 2019 17:42:27 GMT
Surely even the Republicans can see that this man is destroying their country.At what stage can the President be obliged to undergo medical and psychological assessment by independent specialists to prove he is fit to hold his position. Independent specialists are not needed. There are daily reports in mainstream news on the destruction he has wrought. Here is a quick example: I just now googled trump climate change latest and these two items were among the first in the hits list. Note that they both address not only current, but also coming disaster: www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-nws-greenhouse-gas-emissions-spike-20190108-story.html and on the World Bank: www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00081-5The Democrats are asking for rebuttal time on the networks, that would be interesting, he would not like that! I think he realizes he is losing support and does not know how to get out of the mess he created. His speech is rumoured to tell Americans how well the walls in Israel work. I suspect the speech will not go as well as he hopes, just him, a teleprompter and a camera, no adoring fans. Mich, I do hope that you are right about the big fool being exposed as what he is, but I kind of doubt it. the sad thing is that his supporters apparently don't read a variety of news sources, just let their unthinking ears be bathed with hogwash spewed by Fox news. As far as rebuttal time for the Democrats --no matter how his foolishness is rebutted, the facts will be mocked and twisted to his advantage. Also, I don't know how I feel about all this trial by media. The recent example of the whole Christine Blasey Ford / Brett Kavanaugh circus was grotesquely inappropriate -- a circus instead of hard fact-finding by the FBI behind the scenes.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 8, 2019 18:12:48 GMT
Frankly, it is the same thing in France now. All of the crazies are getting all of their news from Facebook and Twitter. God forbid that they should watch the news on television or read an article printed on paper. Alternate facts are here to stay.
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Post by mich64 on Jan 8, 2019 20:04:31 GMT
Also, I don't know how I feel about all this trial by media. The recent example of the whole Christine Blasey Ford / Brett Kavanaugh circus was grotesquely inappropriate -- a circus instead of hard fact-finding by the FBI behind the scenes. I agree Bixa, it was grotesquely inappropriate and revealed that all sides are stooping lower and lower to validate their positions. I really need to get out more and stop reading as much as I do on all of this mess! I read/watch many news sources because, on average, the discussions are concrete enough that I feel I am understanding the topics. But I have noticed I am often frustrated and angry with what I am reading/hearing.
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Post by lagatta on Jan 10, 2019 15:27:28 GMT
Last Week Tonight brings back its 2016 border wall story:
Even sillier in 2019!
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Post by patricklondon on Jan 10, 2019 16:01:40 GMT
He will claim that the re-negotiation of NAFTA will more than make up for Mexico not paying for the wall. That would be re-negotiating with Mexico, would it? If they're not going to pay for it one way, why would they agree to pay for it another way? Echoes of magical thinking on this side of the Atlantic, it would seem. My blog | My photos | My video clips | My Librivox recordings"too literate to be spam"
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Post by Kimby on Jan 10, 2019 18:05:53 GMT
He already has a “new” agreement with Canada and Mexico that he feels is more beneficial to the US than NAFTA. But Congress needs to approve it, as do Canada and Mexico’s parliaments.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 10, 2019 18:28:12 GMT
He is trying to pitch the new version of Nafta as hugely beneficial to the US because of his fine business mind. It's so wonderful that it will generate extra revenue that would easily pay for a wall. Analysts say that the new version is a mere tweak of the old version.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 10, 2019 19:41:34 GMT
Maybe there will be enough left over for a wall with Canada, too.
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Post by questa on Jan 11, 2019 0:30:42 GMT
Maybe the statue "Liberty" and her invitation should be moved to Canada. The "tired and poor" Americans in the US could then join the "huddled masses" waiting in camps on the northern border.
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Post by lagatta on Jan 11, 2019 1:26:38 GMT
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Post by mich64 on Jan 11, 2019 1:43:58 GMT
Since he says the USMCA is how he will be paying for the wall, does that mean that Mexico and Canada is actually paying for the wall?
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Post by questa on Jan 11, 2019 3:56:58 GMT
Humpty Dumbty sits on a wall Humpty, the moron, is due for a fall. And all the Fool's Army of lackeys will hide. But the world will say,"It's the end of the ride."
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 11, 2019 6:00:52 GMT
Since he says the USMCA is how he will be paying for the wall, does that mean that Mexico and Canada is actually paying for the wall? Mich, no -- that is just more of his lying and his lack of understanding of how the government works. The big fool always makes a big showing of signing things like a cartoon big shot, and is either unaware or just doesn't care that there are three branches of government. The executive branch -- the president -- carries out laws, but does NOT make laws. "The Agreement between the United States of America, the United Mexican States, and Canada[1] is a signed but not ratified free trade agreement between Canada, Mexico, and the United States. The agreement will take effect after being signed and ratified by each country. For the latter step, it has to be passed into law by each country." source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Mexico–Canada_Agreement
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 11, 2019 18:18:13 GMT
Excellent advice from Donald Trump!
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Post by lagatta on Jan 14, 2019 19:14:20 GMT
thehill.com/regulation/424817-5-federal-workers-sue-over-shutdown-allege-work-without-pay-violates-13thNow Federal employees have sued over the shutdown, alleging that mandatory work without pay violates the 13th amendment (outlawing slavery and indentured servitude). In another clip, Trump says the order is ok, as most civil servants are Democrats. (!!!!!) I'm not at all expert on US law, but here such a provision affecting civil servants would be hightly illegal. They are expected to be politically neutral at work, but it follows that they should not be punished for the unproven assumption that they have voted for an opposition party. This sounds like the kind of stuff discussed by Kinshasa-Congolese speaking out against endemic corruption and election fixing in the recent vote there. By the way, Trump was correct about walls in 2004. Many people from south of the US, originally Mexicans but now Central Americans, have died, but only improved working and living conditions (as in Mexico) have lessened such attempts. I'm old enough to remember the Berlin Wall and many dramatic escapes; once again many died, but...
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Post by lagatta on Jan 16, 2019 15:02:08 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 16, 2019 15:51:14 GMT
Should have sent them cake -- like the cake Trump is having and eating it, too by forcing essential federal workers to do their jobs without pay.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 16, 2019 17:58:43 GMT
I thought everybody was eating hamberders with a side of covfefe.
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Post by patricklondon on Jan 16, 2019 18:28:13 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Feb 6, 2019 1:55:22 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Feb 6, 2019 2:01:46 GMT
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Post by lagatta on Feb 6, 2019 12:50:21 GMT
Oh dear. I don't think I own anything white. It is already weird enough that the more conservative party there uses red, unlike all other parliaments.
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Post by kerouac2 on Feb 6, 2019 12:57:59 GMT
I looked it up, and the current red and blue colours were not used until the year 2000. It appears that the NYT might be partially guilty because they published the first full colour electoral map and chose red for Republican because they both start with the letter R.
In France we have to use lots more different colours -- red for Communists and far left, pink for Socialists, green for Ecologists, orange for traditional centrists (MoDem), blue for the traditional right wing, usually brown or grey for the far right wing (Le Pen etc.), black for extreme fringe parties. That made it really hard to find a colour for Macron -- I think he ended up with yellow or purple, but it is not universal.
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Post by lagatta on Feb 6, 2019 14:21:58 GMT
Sometimes the far right (but not officially fascist) use a very dark blue. Different shades of red and pink were usually used by and for the left in France. Ecosocialists are red and green. If I recall, Macron was yellow, non?
In Canada the social-democratic party NDP uses orange because red was taken by the Liberal Party, reflecting politics of about 150 years ago in the UK and Canada.
Green can of course be Irish or Islamic, as well as environmentalist.
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Post by kerouac2 on Feb 6, 2019 15:48:08 GMT
We have neither Irish nor Islamist parties in French politics, so there is no confusion there. Macron was yellow on certain media, but not all of them. And there is no particular colour associated to the En Marche logo.
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Post by lagatta on Feb 12, 2019 14:42:06 GMT
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