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Post by questa on Jan 5, 2019 10:54:46 GMT
From the little I have read about this woman, I see a light on the US horizon, an articulate, honest and sensible person of compassionate nature. What do others think of her run to the White House ?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 5, 2019 11:33:54 GMT
What would have been too early would be to title the thread "The United States of President Warren."  |
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Post by lagatta on Jan 5, 2019 17:44:19 GMT
The inauguration of another New Englander, Governor Janet Mills of Maine, featuring some remarkable little girls.
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Post by casimira on Jan 5, 2019 18:49:45 GMT
I was disappointed she didn't make a run in 2016 but the Clinton Machine would never have given her a chance and would have thrown her under the bus along with Bernie.
She's about the only Democrat they have but, I have my doubts about her.
Time will tell.
I think many Democratic liberals are likely, I hope, put their sights and support on Bernie.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 5, 2019 19:17:18 GMT
I mostly echo what Casimira said. I'm not fixated on Bernie and what mostly matters to me is that any Republican candidate be crushed, but would be ecstatic to see an effective progressive in the White House. I think Warren would have a better chance in 2020 than she would have had in 2016 not only because of the reason Casimira cited, but also because I think Warren is now more in the public's consciousness.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 5, 2019 19:42:05 GMT
Bernie is too old too old too old. People need to understand that. Bernie needs to understand that.
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Post by casimira on Jan 5, 2019 20:10:58 GMT
Maybe so Kerouac but, people are desperate!! Age doesn't matter to me. Consider that old may be indicative of wisdom.
Actually, 77 is not that old.
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg is 85 and despite life threatening illness she has stated that she has no intention of retiring for at least five years if her health allows her to.
She has at least, to the best of my knowledge, not shown any indication of being demented or psychologically unfit to serve on the Supreme Court.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 5, 2019 22:18:21 GMT
Amen! Many people are "too old" at fifty or even forty. Others are the Eveready bunny, so why should they be held back by stereotypes and misconceptions.
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Post by bjd on Jan 6, 2019 6:51:38 GMT
Ruth Bader Ginsberg has to hold on for dear life so that Trump can't appoint another right-wing supreme court justice.
I too think Bernie Sanders is too old. When you see how being a president takes its toll -- look at the pictures of Obama from 2008 to 2016! -- I don't think anyone in their 80s should take on such a position. Age is not necessarily correlated with wisdom. On the contrary, older people are often looking back rather than forwards.
I don't know much about her but Elizabeth Warren strikes me as a perfect target for the Republican machine to destroy: smart, liberal and female.
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Post by lagatta on Jan 6, 2019 14:17:57 GMT
Yes, Obama greyed and looks much older (still looks fine, though). Tony Blair also changed dramatically - guess we notice this more among younger leaders. Won't be surprised to see the very young President Macron acquire some grey hairs and lines with the ongoing crisis.
Bernie is one of those old guys who jogs and keeps fit, but there is always more risk of a debilitating condition - or a sudden death - as we reach the tail end of our lifespan. He would certainly need a presidentiable - and considerably younger - running mate.
By the way, Warren is now 69, so she'll be over 70 if she does run in two years.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 6, 2019 15:09:36 GMT
The world has changed, perhaps unfortunately in terms of whom we would like our leaders to be. Don't think of your own opinions in terms of future elections but think about what the mass of voters wants. Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren might be suitable in second place on the ticket, but it would be wise to look for a 21st century person to be on top. Of course, even though I continue to follow American politics a bit, at the moment I can't think of any younger person who could excite the masses except maybe Beto O'Rourke or someone else of that ilk. O'Rourke has the advantage of appealing to the Latino Americans, which are the largest growing group. I am sorry to say this (having majored in political science in university -- a totally useless occupation), but strategy is far more important than convictions in every country of the world.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jan 6, 2019 16:09:10 GMT
Sounds good to me -- they just need to get their ass in gear.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 6, 2019 16:46:51 GMT
strategy is far more important than convictions in every country of the world. That's for sure! I do agree with Sanders or Warren as palatable and effective running mates, as either could be seen to constitute almost a co-presidency with whomever the presidential candidate is. Kamala Harris is my choice. YESSSS!!! |
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Post by lagatta on Jan 6, 2019 19:37:22 GMT
She supports Medicare for All. And got an "F" vote from the NRA.
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Post by casimira on Jan 6, 2019 19:45:56 GMT
It's really too early to tell but I don't think Senator Harris has a chance. Up until the Kavanaugh hearings she was a virtual unknown.
I hope I'm wrong but I think the Democratic Party is more likely to endorse Warren over Harris.
Obama was a virtual unknown BUT the Democrats had been "grooming" him for his run in 2008 for a long time.
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Post by casimira on Jan 6, 2019 19:51:02 GMT
She supports Medicare for All. And got an "F" vote from the NRA. That cancels her out with every RED state on the map. |
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Post by lagatta on Jan 6, 2019 20:35:49 GMT
Most of those states would greatly benefit from Medicare For All.
No shortage of hunters in rural Québec with huge forests. I can't fathom why people don't have to register guns when they have to register cars and other potentially hazardous property, which unlike guns are not designed to kill.
But yeah, I know that mentality runs deep.
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Post by casimira on Jan 6, 2019 22:54:37 GMT
Excellent, succinct, piece. Thanks for that Huckle.
We've got a long road to tredge…
Here's hoping.
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Post by lagatta on Jan 7, 2019 2:08:50 GMT
Yes, very interesting, but I'd call her multiracial, or certainly a person of colour. She is Jamaican (probably biracial) but also Tamil (South Indian, brown). Sort of reminds me of Obama, though he was biracial East African (black) and sort of middle American (white) but also had a very strong connection to Southeast Asia. Global people.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jan 7, 2019 4:02:48 GMT
I think after the recent mid-terms it is defeatist to talk about red or blue states, as we're seeing major shifts in voting habits. Also, in the gazillion articles posted since 2016, it's been shown over and over that purple needs to be included in voting maps. After Orange County went blue, we can assume anything can happen.
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