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Post by lugg on Nov 24, 2019 15:49:55 GMT
I saw that interview Cheery - it was disgraceful. Me too monetsmum.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 2, 2019 21:24:12 GMT
The election is only days away now and in spite of its importance, there is practically nothing in the overseas press about it. Frankly, I have been reading quite a few of the British articles and would not have the slightest idea what to write if I were a journalist. It is quite clear that the Tories are ahead in the polls but the atmosphere is so volatile that I am far from sure of the outcome. And will the "winners" actually win something?
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Post by lugg on Dec 6, 2019 20:01:03 GMT
There is a really useful website for UK voters who want to vote tactically to deny the Tories victory. tactical.vote/Unfortunately it does not help me because its a lost cause where I live. However I will still make my stand even though I know I am actually wasting my time . I am really hoping though that others will use this where it can make a difference. There is a final debate between Corbyn and Bo Jo tonight which will be televised at around 20.30 - www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50681321Anyway it seems even more unlikely that BoJo will submit to an interview with Andrew Neil - no surprises there www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50679252Hope you can all see the video in the link .
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 6, 2019 20:11:11 GMT
I voted tactically (postal vote), something I've not done before. Got to get the buggers out.
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Post by lugg on Dec 6, 2019 20:15:35 GMT
I voted tactically (postal vote), something I've not done before. Got to get the buggers out. Fingers crossed Cheery .
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Post by monetsmum on Dec 7, 2019 7:02:56 GMT
I've already decided which way I'm voting, but used that tactical voting site just to confirm that I was voting the the right way to get the buffoon out.
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 7, 2019 8:19:55 GMT
The thought of Jeremy Corbyn in charge terrifies me.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 7, 2019 8:34:46 GMT
If it's any consolation Mick, if JC gets in I doubt he'll be in post for long. There are too many 'new labour' Blairites just gagging to take over. Ever since John Major took over from an ousted Maggy it seems to be the norm for political parties to chop and change leaders. To be honest it seems that they spend more time squabbling amongst themselves about who should be in charge than actually governing the country.
I'm so fed up about the 'facts' that they all seem to come up with by jiggery pokery and with a sprinkle of fairy dust.
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Post by mossie on Dec 7, 2019 9:11:43 GMT
Sorry Cheery, New Labourites don't stand a chance, hard Marxist Momentum will sweep the board and we will be a totalitarian state, friendless and broke. Happy days will be here again.
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 7, 2019 9:13:57 GMT
But we’ll have Diane Abbott as Home Secretary so not all bad.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 7, 2019 9:29:24 GMT
It's bonkers isn't it? To be fair tho dear Mick and dear Mossie there aren't ANY politicians worth voting for. They're all as bad as each other. I used to be a Liberal Democrat but the 'coalition' ended all my faith in them. I'd vote Green but I don't really know anything much about how they plan to run the country...it's all very well wanting to save the environment but we still have schools to run etc...I'm a floating voter now. If I honestly thought that the Conservative party were the best party to run the country I WOULD vote for them, I'm not just anti-posh.
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Post by whatagain on Dec 7, 2019 11:56:15 GMT
Join the club Cheery. I am a floating voter too. I think most people who want their vote to be useful realise that they have a choice between pest and cholera and the small parties giving the flu.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 7, 2019 14:35:27 GMT
The current lot have had nine years. Everything is worse.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 7, 2019 18:48:44 GMT
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Post by bjd on Dec 9, 2019 9:09:07 GMT
It looks as though Bojo is trying to compete with Trump for stupid comments:
"Mr. Johnson made the remarks in an interview published by The Sunday Times of London this weekend as Britain hurtles toward a pivotal election on Thursday.
He has characterized a vote for his Conservative Party as the only way “to get Brexit done.” But he’s now suggesting that the British, in a frenzy of celebration, would rush to procreate after the country left the European Union and the results would mirror a supposed baby boom in 2012, which he attributed to the London Olympics that year, when he was the city’s mayor.
“Cupid’s darts will fly once we get Brexit done,” he was quoted as saying. “Romance will bloom across the whole nation. There was one after the Olympics, as I correctly prophesied in a speech in 2012, it was quite amazing. There was a big baby boom.”...
The baby-boom prediction stood out in an election campaign that has been overshadowed by scandals and concerns, including fears of Russian interference in the vote; accusations that the opposition leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has failed to tackle the scourge of anti-Semitism in his Labour Party; claims about dirty tricks by Mr. Johnson’s party; and Labour’s unveiling of leaked documents purporting to show that the National Health Service would be up for discussion in a post-Brexit British-American trade deal, even though Mr. Johnson has vowed that it would not.
But the Brexit babies comments were indicative of Mr. Johnson’s proclivity for making outlandish, often-dubious, claims that lead to howls of public ridicule or outrage but for which he suffers no real consequence.
For instance, he said in a 2013 interview with “Voices From Oxford” when he was mayor of London that female suffrage happened only because men realized that women could “run them down” with cars.
“I think that women’s liberation, female suffrage, probably wouldn’t have happened, if it hadn’t been for the motorcar,” he opined.
Mr. Johnson was also raked over the coals for a 1995 article in which he described the children of single mothers as “ill-raised, ignorant, aggressive and illegitimate,” and referred to single mothers as “uppity and irresponsible women.”
The uplift was linked to a number of factors, including migration, greater fertility among older women and shifting social attitudes about parenthood, as well as to grandchildren of those born in the post-World War II baby boom reaching childbearing age.
And though its effects are still rippling through British schools, the trend has since gone firmly into reverse. Last year, live births in England and Wales were nearly 10 percent down on the 2012 peak, and the total fertility rate had fallen to 1.7 children per woman, down from 1.94 in 2012. In 2018, the country’s population stood at more than 66 million.
From the NY Times
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 11, 2019 18:02:07 GMT
For those who have only heard about it, here it is.
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Post by lugg on Dec 11, 2019 20:07:23 GMT
So whatever we individually think ... Friday 13th is nearly here.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 11, 2019 20:25:22 GMT
Perhaps Boris has a future in acting if not as PM.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 11, 2019 23:08:58 GMT
Can anyone explain to me the origin of those badges/ribbons that candidates wear on election days? They look ridiculous to us foreigners since they are the same as the things that one pins on prize animals at an agricultural competition.
Not everything that the British do seems ridiculous, don't get me wrong. The French looked at the poppy things that Commonwealth people wear on the 11th of November for at least half a century and have now adopted (for the last several years) blue cornflowers for the same event -- at least the politicians, not the general public. Maybe it will catch on.
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 12, 2019 5:06:39 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 12, 2019 6:08:01 GMT
Yes. That extremely short wiki makes no sense. It implies that if Johnson and Corbyn were not wearing the things, nobody would be able to identify them.
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Post by bjd on Dec 12, 2019 7:07:04 GMT
"n British politics, rosettes (or sometimes flowers and ties) of a political party are often worn by candidates. As of 2016, the normal colours used are red for the Labour party (referenced in the party's official song), blue for the Conservative party, orange-yellow for the Liberal Democrat party, Green for the Green party and heather for the UK Independence Party. Of the nationalist parties, the SNP uses yellow and Plaid Cymru gold and green."
If they all stood together it would make a rainbow coalition.
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Post by patricklondon on Dec 12, 2019 7:51:08 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 12, 2019 11:09:17 GMT
I admire people who have the time and passion to do such things.
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Post by mickthecactus on Dec 12, 2019 22:06:04 GMT
The exit poll suggests a huge conservative majority.
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Post by kerouac2 on Dec 13, 2019 4:53:30 GMT
Well, that's all taken care of then. Carry on.
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Post by onlyMark on Dec 13, 2019 5:14:56 GMT
My old area, which was Labour for as long as I can remember it, has now changed over.
I'd love to see study showing how many changed their vote because of Corbyn being the main reason or because of now being so fed up with the whole saga of Bexit that they just wanted to get it over with. I understand it may be a combination of both, just wondering which was the main motivator. Or what was.
I've got a certain amount of funds in a British bank and I've been waiting for a good exchange rate to move a load of it into Euros, so my heart beat a little faster when I saw the headline that the pound had surged in value. I'm afraid a surge of 2% isn't what I would call a surge and neither do I have enough geld to make a killing at that rate.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Dec 13, 2019 8:08:11 GMT
Well that's it. I had an inkling last night but I put off turning on the TV until 0730. Thought I'd have a few more hours of blissful ignorance.
I'm not surprised at the result because I realised a while back that Jeremy Corbyn was just unacceptable as a PM to an awful lot of people and that labour's spending promises are unachievable. I'm really depressed tho. If I thought that the Tories would put the country and the British people first I'd be happier. Capitalism before everything. I'm so depressed.
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Post by bjd on Dec 13, 2019 9:04:14 GMT
It's really pathetic when a guy nobody trusts wins a large majority in Parliament. So Johnson will "do" Brexit as soon as he can. The only bright side I see is that the Brexit party MEPs will be out of the European Parliament and no longer getting their big salaries.
As for Corbyn, all I know about him is what I have read on various news sites over the past couple of years but he certainly seemed uninspiring as a leader. He must have a huge groove in his rear end from sitting so much fence-sitting.
I hope the Scots manage to get a referendum and vote for independence, even if Johnson says he won't allow one.
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Post by whatagain on Dec 13, 2019 9:17:14 GMT
Long life to Brexit. People chose. Whether they chose wisely is another issue. these are the dangers of democracy... since i consider myself more intelligent than the vast majority of people I am always disappointed when people don't follow my reasoning. However I must humbly accept that the people who vote have as much right to disagree with me ;-
So here goes our relation with Britain.
La perfide Albion has decided to live on her own again. Rule Britannia !
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