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Post by BigIain on Mar 26, 2009 10:27:56 GMT
I am a huge fan of motorsports, and F1 in particular. The season kicks off this weekend and I am already pissed off that the iner-team whingeing has started already. Ferrari have travelled to Melbourne with their FULL legal team and have today put in a complaint about the Toyota car, only 2 days before the race qualifying and AFTER the Toyota has been passed legal to race.
I hate this aspect of the competition. Its been passed legal... just get on with it!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2009 10:51:08 GMT
I am only interested in the wrecks. I remember watching Ayrton Senna die while having lunch at an autoroute restaurant.
He was the all time idol of one of my second cousins, and she even wrote two books about him, besides making pilgrimage trips to Sao Paolo. She was not a good student in school, but she now speaks Portuguese, and she also speaks English but with a Brazilian accent.
Although she was a housewife most of her life, she is now in charge of the book department of a Cora hypermarket, so you might say that F1 racing changed her life.
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Post by gyro on Mar 26, 2009 11:12:15 GMT
I'm amazed that something where people go at close to 200mph only a few inches above the ground can be so boooooring.
As keroauc suggest, it'd be FAR more interesting if they could guarantee a good crash every race or so. Or maybe have oil patches or water jumps, or sides of the track that move in and out and certain times, like the clashing cliffs from Greek mythology.
THAT would be worth watching ....
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Post by BigIain on Mar 26, 2009 11:56:53 GMT
I am hopeful that it will be a little better this year for a number of reasons, I guess we will see this weekend.
F1 really is the "marmite" of the sports world since there is no such thing as a neutral with it.
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Post by gyro on Mar 26, 2009 11:57:35 GMT
Yeah, I agree with that; either love it or hate it.
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Post by onlymark on Mar 26, 2009 12:46:02 GMT
Marmite is Ok, neither good nor bad.
I went to college with a lad called Roberto Guerrero who worked his way up to F1 in 1982/83. We used to blast around Bromsgrove, near Birmingham, in his Mini.
That's my claim to fame.
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Post by gyro on Mar 27, 2009 20:40:17 GMT
Mike Gatting once bought me an orange juice. That's mine.
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Post by BigIain on Mar 28, 2009 10:06:18 GMT
pathetic. the two of you!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 10:43:09 GMT
So, I confess that I have never heard of this Jenson Button person.
One thing that I don't care for in the F1 'sport' is that the mainstream media only really talk about 3 or 4 drivers during the whole season, and that makes it look like a totally private sport. Perhaps the specialized press has a lot more to say about it? Then again, what's there to say when somebody comes in 9th? "Jolly good performance, last time he was 14th!"
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Post by onlymark on Mar 29, 2009 14:25:35 GMT
Stefan Schumacher won both time trials in the 2008 Tour de France.
"So, I confess that I have never heard of this Stefan Schumacher person.
One thing that I don't care for in the Tour de France is that the mainstream media only really talk about 3 or 4 riders during the whole season, and that makes it look like a totally private sport. Perhaps the specialized press has a lot more to say about it? Then again, what's there to say when somebody comes in 9th? "Jolly good performance, last time he was 14th!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 15:50:54 GMT
That is not really an effective taunt, Mark. Every day, the Tour de France has a yellow jersey, a green jersey, a white jersey and a polka dot jersey, and they are rarely the same people, so a hell of a lot a different people get talked about, not to mention the daily front runners who get caught up with after a 50 or 30 or 15km escape, plus the winners of the final sprint. I would say that at least 80% of the cyclists get talked about at one time or another. You've never followed the Tour de France, have you?  |
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Post by onlymark on Mar 29, 2009 17:27:22 GMT
I tried following it but they were just too quick for me.
The point is that in every sport only the top few are reported about. It is not exclusive to F1 is it?
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Post by BigIain on Mar 29, 2009 18:02:58 GMT
I love the TDF, and go to a couple af stages every year. As with any sport you can find all the info you want on it. I try to avoid football chat so all Iver hear is about the top 4 teams really.
I have spoken briefly with Stefan Schumacher last year at Alpe d Huez, so there! (since there was some name dropping going on earlier, maybe we should have a name-dropping thread? I am world class at it)
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Post by hal2000 on Mar 30, 2009 19:44:18 GMT
I am wondering if the Armstrong accident was partially planned. A pain killing drug for the Italy and France races might mask other products that he is using.
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Post by BigIain on Mar 30, 2009 20:29:44 GMT
The drugs that can be administered come from a strict list that prevents masking of anything else.
Also: EPO is easily detected by red blood cell levels for instance and is not maskeable. Going on a tangent I think that ventolin remains the only one that they can gain any sort of advantage from legally. All Tour riders "suffer" from chronic athsma apparently!
I saw footage of his fall and the aftermath. OUCH!
He would be most fortunate to be selected for the tour this year in any case. Astana already have Contador, Lipheimer, Klodden and Daniel Navarro who would each fancy their chances of a top 3 classification. What they need on top of those guys is five hard workers to look after them for the race duration. Lance does not cut it for me these days.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 20:47:37 GMT
He is old. He should retire. But if he wants to make an ass of himself, let him go ahead and do it. It might be a good lesson for others.
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Post by BigIain on Mar 31, 2009 7:23:31 GMT
I look forward to the Tour de France thread later this year K2! Are you a fan?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2009 20:39:54 GMT
I am an absolute fan of the Tour de France, all the more so because I never have a favorite at the outset, and the excitement builds as the Tour develops.
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Post by hal2000 on May 11, 2009 12:14:46 GMT
Jenson Button does it again. Looks like the F1 world is changing.
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Post by BigIain on May 14, 2009 9:41:08 GMT
Once all the BS settles down I am sure a compromise will be reached and not much will change. Perhaps some more realistic budget level for the annual operation.
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Post by spindrift on May 14, 2009 17:03:57 GMT
Motor racing? I HATE the noise.
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Post by hwinpp on May 15, 2009 1:54:09 GMT
I'd be quite happy if Button wins the F1 championship. He'd have deserved it.
Otherwise pretty boring races this year it seems. I only watch the highlights on the news.
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Post by BigIain on Jun 9, 2009 9:27:12 GMT
It is becoming a mismatch right now for Braun and Button. The last race in Turkey was the first boring one of the year so far.
Its The UK Grand Prix in 2 weeks time and I am delighted to be attending it on the Saturday and the Sunday.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2009 16:48:53 GMT
The FIRST boring one?  |
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Post by BigIain on Jun 9, 2009 18:22:08 GMT
yup, thats what I said. I guess either you love it or hate it. Have you seen one this year?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2009 18:52:04 GMT
I see little bits and pieces. For example, I saw the start of this last one and maybe the first lap. Then of course I moved on to the final of the French Open. Yes, I know it did not start immediately, but there was a very interesting retrospective of the carreers of Mr & Mrs Agassi-Graf first. Wow, the hairstyles of that epoch definitely outshined the sports!  |
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Post by questa on Nov 28, 2016 10:09:03 GMT
Well...I have resuscitated this thread which purports to be Formula ! but in fact is about almost everything else. I have never been interested in bicycle racing although Adelaide has hosted the Tour Down Under for several years and the city has transferred its Grand Prix party atmosphere to the TDU with much Ballyhoo and parades. I suppose it is better as thousands line the streets and route through the countryside for free instead of paying squillions of dollars to catch a glimpse of a F1 racing.
To Spindrift...It is essential to wear noise blocking headphones. I was living 14km from the F1 track with a range of hills in between it and my house. When the GO flag dropped I could hear it as all the cars screamed off simultaneously.
To K2...I was in Saigon, Vietnam. Had TV on while I showered. could hear F1 engines and voice I could not understand. Quickly got out of shower and was just in time to see a picture on the screen of a laurel wreath and written over it ' Ayrton Senna 1960-1994' It took 5 weeks until I found out the details.
I see his son is racing this year. I don't follow it as closely these days, just what makes general news.
Anyone else?
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Post by onlyMark on Nov 28, 2016 13:56:27 GMT
I do have an interest and try and watch as many as I can during the season. But as you know, the season has just finished yesterday, so I will have to wait until next March (I think) to start watching it again.
I am also interested in the fall out from Hamilton's tactics in the last race.
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Post by fumobici on Nov 28, 2016 19:26:44 GMT
I like F1, although it appeals to me more for its technical than sporting aspects. Here on the US Pacific coast, most of the races happen in the middle of the night so I seldom watch them live. If anyone cares to discuss underbody aero or 3D fuel injection mapping, I'll be happy to.
See Andre Agassi's hair above? I read his book and it was a wig hiding his baldness. He was constantly terrified it would fly off while he was playing.
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Post by mossie on Nov 28, 2016 19:42:23 GMT
I have been a very keen F1 follower for yonks. It can get very boring when one team dominates. The money involved is now colossal, and, as with other sports, that spoils it. It has also become far too rule heavy, this emphasis on fuel saving is just silly when the cars are supposed to be out and out racers. It will be very interesting to see how it evolves now that Bernie Ecclestone is being pushed aside, Bernie has called the shots for far too long but is such a crafty old so and so that he has been a virtual dictator.
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