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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 2, 2009 22:54:12 GMT
I may have posted this before, but it bears repeating.
When over-sized pictures are posted here, they take forever to load and are really a burden for people with slower internet services.
What's too big? Look at the top of some of the posted pictures on the site. Sometimes there's nothing there, sometimes it says "reduced by 13%" or suchlike, which is okay, but some are much, much bigger. Yes, the forum is set up to reduce the picture to a manageable size for viewing, but it's still having to deal with an enormous picture. There are a few on here right now that are reduced by 70% or more!
I only know how to use one picture managing program, so I will explain that one. That are certainly others, so it would be good if those of you that know about them would share the knowledge. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RESIZING PICTURES WITH MICROSOFT OFFICE PICTURE MANAGER
For a reason I do not understand, most digital camera pictures when loaded onto the computer are huge. This presents a problem when you want to send photos in email, since those oversized pictures can too quickly use up your attachment size limit. Also, when you post an oversized picture online, the monster will stretch the screen.
So, what to do?
You need to resize them, which can be done with a picture managing program computer which you should have on your computer.
The one I like is Microsoft Office Picture Manager. (To find: click Start; click All Programs; click Microsoft Office; click Microsoft Office Tools to see the drop-down menu. That's where you'll find Picture Manager)
Any computer picture managing program should have the capacity to re-size photos. I particularly recommend Mcrsft Ofc Picture Mngr because it is so easy to use.
Once you have determined that you have MOPM on your computer, open a photo in it. Go to where you have a photo stored, right-click on it, go to Open With, then select Mictrosoft Office Picture Manager. When your photo opens up in MOPM, you'll have handy access to all the editing tools.
When you open a photo in Pic.Mgr., it will fit nicely on your computer screen. However, if you look at the tool bar across the top, you'll see how much the pic was reduced in order to fit the screen. To fix it, all you need to do is click on Edit Pictures from the toolbar at the top of the page, then select Resize. Using the "Percentage of original width x height:" box, you enter the same reduction number showing in the top toolbar. Click Save & you're done. It also gives you the ability to crop, adjust brightness, color, & all kinds of other things.
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Post by hwinpp on Apr 3, 2009 1:53:16 GMT
It's also very easy to resize with 'Photo Gadget'. Free download.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 3, 2009 2:51:02 GMT
I just looked at the Photo Gadget site, HW and have one comment. Photo Gadget does the same thing that PhotoBucket does in the sense that you have to choose a size. This always sends me into a dither when I use PhotoBucket's bulk uploader -- which size is too big, which too small?
How do you tell? I'd love to know so that I'd feel more confident when using PhotoBucket and also in deciding to branch out into another photo managing too.
That is why I've stuck with Mcrsft Office Pic Mngr, because I don't have to make these burning decisions. I glance at the toolbar to determine proportion of reduction, then type that number into the resize space and bang, I'm done. So maybe PhotoGadget and others are better, but for the rank beginner PicMngr might be a better starting place.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2009 6:58:28 GMT
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Post by spindrift on Apr 3, 2009 8:46:02 GMT
I use Microsoft Digitial Image programme software.
I've used this programme to edit all my photos. I've looked at the re-size options which are easy to follow BUT I don't know the easy way to resize and also keep the original picture (without it being replaced by the new, smaller size). That's my only problem.
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Post by happytraveller on Apr 3, 2009 9:01:45 GMT
On photobucket you just click on "resize picture", very simple but I have only just figured that out recently. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2009 9:04:58 GMT
Yes, both the resizing and the cropping functions of PhotoBucket are excellent. I am usually too lazy to crop to improve my photos, but I should really do it more often.
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Post by Jazz on Apr 3, 2009 13:04:31 GMT
I don't know if this is the thread to put this question... I would like to know how to space my photos within the thread. ie: some of you know how to centre, or put two photos side by side etc. I like the look of this. Can anyone tell me a site or where to go to learn how to do this? So far, I only post from google images, in a boring line, one under the other. I am trying to overcome my laziness and tech paralysis to figure out how to upload to a hosting site and learn how to post my own photos from there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2009 13:08:35 GMT
First of all, save the images in your computer. Open an account at PhotoBucket and upload them there. You can resize them, trim them, etc. However, it is generally only by using the preview function here (or having vast intuition) that you can determine when it is possible to place photos side by side or not.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 3, 2009 14:30:31 GMT
I hear what you say , K. But how does one actually place them side by side...do you have to load one, preview and then load another when viewing the first?
In that case should they be re-sized as 'small' or 'medium' (as in Photobucket's automatic re-sizing formula)?
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 3, 2009 14:39:32 GMT
Writeon, in Microsoft Office Picture Manager you can click on File in your toolbar and choose Export. This is going to duplicate your picture for you so that you will can save the original and also have a copy to resize or otherwise edit.
After you click on Export, you'll be asked where you want to export it, what name to give it, what format, etc. You can certainly Export it to the same place and in the same format, but do be sure to give the duplicate a different name from the original.
After you've resized, hosted and posted your duplicate, you can delete it from your computer or save it as it will be much easier to send in emails than the large original.
Your program might have the same function. Try clicking on File to see.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 3, 2009 15:00:59 GMT
Great question, Jazz, and it definitely belongs in this thread because you'll need to have some control over the size of the pictures in order to be able to put them side by side. As Kerouac says, first you need to save internet images to your computer so they can be hosted. Your own images are already there. Then, please refer to Part Two of How to Post Pictures in Port Authority. I recommend using both ImageShack and PhotoBucket. I like PhotoBucket for its bulk uploader and for the way it displays your hosted pictures. But ImageShack is quick and easy for hosting and posting individual pictures if you use its toolbar. Try hosting your photos, and if you have problems, either PM me or start a thread and we can go through it together. Okay, back to the question of arranging photos in a post. First of all, do this is Reply rather than in quick reply so you can Preview and rearrange as needed. To center a picture:paste in your url and highlight over it in order to click and put in the brackets as always for posting pictures. Now highlight over both the url and its set of img brackets and click on the fifth button from the right in the top set of buttons above the message box. That is the Center button. To place pictures side by side:Do the picture posting process as your usually would. Then you need to put in spaces. The way to do that is to use the word e c a p s -- except write it with no spaces between the letters. Each time you write it you will create a space. So picture-post, space, e c a p s, space, e c a p s , space, etc. until you think you have the amount you need. Then post the next picture and the next. (e c a p s is "space" spelled backward) After that you will need to Preview in order to check if your line of photos will indeed show up as you'd like. You can add or remove e c a p s to make things fit to your satisfaction.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 3, 2009 18:04:26 GMT
Jazz - we'll have to try the spacing....
Bixa - thanks for the spacing information.
I simply don't have the Microsoft Office or Picture Manager programmes. I have recently added Microsoft Word 2007 but cannot find any Picture manager. So now I admit defeat and give up.
*weeps with frustration*
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Post by spindrift on Apr 3, 2009 18:15:47 GMT
I did it! I re-sized the picture on Photobucket (medium size), then I followed Bixa's instructions and it's worked. Great. So far so good.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 3, 2009 18:29:03 GMT
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Post by spindrift on Apr 3, 2009 18:30:00 GMT
Thanks Bixa.... I now have the hang of it. It's easy when you know how! You are a first-rate teacher.....
*pours a vodka and relaxes*
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 3, 2009 20:38:52 GMT
If I'm so great, how come you have a vodka and I don't?
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 3, 2009 20:40:05 GMT
Oh yeah ~~ you don't have Microsoft Office? That's where Micrsft Office Pic Mngr is hiding. (see OP)
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Post by spindrift on Apr 3, 2009 22:20:25 GMT
After another strong vodka I found the Microsoft Office Picture Manager. I found the re-sizing tool but there was no percentage showing and the ONLY pics in Office Manager where my downloads since all my thousands of other pice are in Microsoft Digital Image Programme and I dare not start swapping stuff around between programmes.
*I'll think about it more tomorrow*
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Post by hwinpp on Apr 4, 2009 2:04:52 GMT
Looks like it's all sorted out.
To use the photogadget thing, you need to have the pics on your computer already. Then you can even batch resize.
The originals are kept and the resized pics are renamed with the resize ratio added to the original name.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 4, 2009 2:45:02 GMT
After another strong vodka I found the Microsoft Office Picture Manager. I found the re-sizing tool but there was no percentage showing and the ONLY pics in Office Manager where my downloads since all my thousands of other pice are in Microsoft Digital Image Programme and I dare not start swapping stuff around between programmes. *I'll think about it more tomorrow* I am SO embarrassed!! I completely forgot that I had Microsoft Office Picture Manager set as my default picture program. Because of that, I simply click on any saved picture on my computer, and it automatically opens in Pic Mgr. Sorry -- crucial info that I left out, because when you open McrsftPicMngr from the Start button, it looks completely different from when it opens up with a picture. Do this: choose any photo you have saved on your computer. Right-click on its thumbnail or name, move down the menu to Open With, then choose Microsoft Office Picture Manager. NOW you're in business! First make sure you're not altering your original. Go to File (extreme upper left corner) and choose Export. (please refer to Reply #10 above for more detail) Once you've Exported your picture, close it out, then go back to your picture files and select the Export version and right-click, etc. as above. If you wish to do any cropping, or any other editing, click on Edit Pictures in the toolbar above the photo. Once you've done all that to your satisfaction, check out the percentage in the middle of the toolbar, click on Edit Pictures again, choose Resize, then put that percentage number in the slot that says "Percentage of original width and height". Click OK. Now go back to File so you can Save, and you're done. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Let me stress again that this is the program I use because I like the way I can resize my pics without any agonizing. However, HW's PhotoGadget thing sounds very good also.
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Post by Jazz on Apr 4, 2009 14:15:06 GMT
Bixa, thanks for the help. I may break the barrier this weekend. It looks like Spindrift found the directions easy to follow!
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 4, 2009 14:27:18 GMT
I can't wait for what you'll do when have more design possibilities, Jazz. If you have any trouble at all, please try to catch me online or PM me, and I'll be more than happy to walk you through it.
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Post by Jazz on Apr 7, 2009 16:49:26 GMT
Bixa, I read your reply to Rikita re Imageshack (good for singles) and Photobucket (good for files). I tend to want to do it all, singles of my own, singles from google image and files of my own and some others. Would just the one, Photobucket, be good for it all? Or, do I have to join both? I prefer to keep it as simple as I can. I'd like to know your opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2009 17:26:16 GMT
Jazz, while waiting for Bixa's advice, my own method is to use my Photobucket account for just about everything, and I have hundreds of pictures there all in a jumble. When I decided it might be a good idea to create different albums for different things and sort the photos out, I got an automatic warning screen along the lines of "you stupid jerk; if you rearrange your photos now, it is going to break all of your links to any forum!" So I gave up on that and will live with my jumble -- therefore you can be smarter than me and create specific albums BEFORE making links of the photos to a place like this.
Meanwhile, I still use ImageShack for posting random images (you know when I am posting ha ha funny laff riot photos) that I post and would never want to keep. I have never even opened an account there to do that, because once I have used the image I never need to see it again.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 7, 2009 18:03:56 GMT
ImageShack is difficult to access from the UK most of 24/7. It must be overloaded. I could only get on late in the afternoon, english time.
Photobucket is fantastic. Bixa told me about it. I do everything on it now, including re-sizing pics just before I download them...I've never been told to put things in an album or called a jerk.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 7, 2009 18:14:18 GMT
That is Kerouac's take, here is mine:
I think it's good to have an ImageShack account. If you have the ImgShk toolbar, it's the work of an instant to upload one of your photos to it. If I'm posting something here & know I want to include one of my pictures, I simply write the post and access the upload feature directly from the same page. Also, there are times I'd like to re-use those hosted images.
With PhotoBucket, you can create albums at will, which allows you to sort your jumbled photos at the same time you're putting your pictures into PhotoBucket. It is absolutely the easiest way to make a long essay or travelogue post. That's because the thumbnails PB displays of your album contents make it easy for you to select which picture you want to put where. And of course having things in albums allows you to find a photo quickly.
I feel that with both systems you still need to do resizing on your own computer if you want real control over the ultimate size of pictures.
So -- I like ImageShack for very quick access to the hosting process, and PhotoBucket for the ability to bulk upload & for its organizing flexibility.
It's no big deal to join both of them. That way you can decide if you greatly prefer one over the other, or if you like using both.
A suggestion: use a handle rather than your real name when registering a user name, and make sure your settings indicate the level of privacy you want.
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Post by Jazz on Apr 8, 2009 19:57:40 GMT
Thanks, Bixa and Kerouac. I am still avoiding this (but have also been busy). I think I will aim for the simplest first, (K and Photobucket), then refine it later.
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Post by bixaorellana on Apr 8, 2009 22:53:59 GMT
Spindrift, the link in the Reply #3 above takes you to ImageShack U.S. Do you think you might have more luck with that one?
Tiny Pic is also mentioned on that page. I've never used it, but I know it's beloved of geeks, so much be good.
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