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Post by spindrift on Jan 19, 2010 10:48:02 GMT
The Swine Flu scare is over in England .......the media is now warning us about impending hospital closures with unknown numbers of people will be suffer from a stomach virus that brings on projectile vomiting.....
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Post by Kimby on Jan 26, 2010 17:43:10 GMT
Greed. I'm not getting it even though it's available even here. It's not greed, here. The government has provided enough vaccine to GIVE it away to anyone who wants it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2010 20:58:25 GMT
Today there have been accusations of collusion between the health authorities and the pharmaceutical companies in overestimating the pandemic.
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Post by Kimby on Jan 27, 2010 18:14:14 GMT
Well, yes, the vaccine manufacturers didn't GIVE the doses to the government, even if the government is passing them out for free.
Guess they'll have to accept "fire sale" prices for the remaining surplus doses.
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Post by Kimby on Jan 27, 2010 22:13:53 GMT
The latest from Western Montana (emphasis added)
From: Public Health Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:07 PM Subject: News release: last week of free H1N1 influenza vaccination clinic at fairground
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Jan. 27, 2010
Contact: Public Information Officer, Health Promotion Director
Last week of free H1N1 influenza vaccination clinic at fairground clinic
The Health Dept. will close down its free vaccination clinic at the fairgrounds on Thursday Jan. 28. In February, free H1N1 vaccinations will be offered at the Health Dept. on a walk in basis.
Call xxx-xxxx for more influenza related information. The Health Department particularly encourages children of all ages and their families to get vaccinated.
Although 2009 H1H1 influenza is currently on the decline in both Montana and the nation as a whole, it will likely continue through the winter and early spring. Influenza is unpredictable and the Health Dept. encourages everyone who hasn’t been vaccinated to do so.
In addition, most health care providers and clinics now have the vaccine on hand. For people over 17 years of age, several larger Missoula County pharmacies are providing the H1N1 vaccine for an administrative fee.
The sooner you get this vaccination, the sooner you will be protected for the rest of the flu season.
A reminder: pregnant women, infants, children, adults to age 49 with chronic conditions and those community members of Alaska Native or American Indian descent are at the highest risk for complications from H1N1. And remember that children nine and under who received a first shot need a second to be fully protected.
20,000 doses have been given out to Missoula County residents to date. There still is no sign of seasonal influenza in the US.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2010 22:37:48 GMT
In the end, I did not use my free vaccination certificate, and the vaccination centers are closing this week...
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Post by Kimby on Jan 27, 2010 23:04:44 GMT
I believe you're old enough, kerouac, that you aren't at great risk anyway. Anyone alive prior to 1960 has some natural immunity to H1N1 from exposure to a previous similar virus.
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Post by bjd on Jan 28, 2010 12:53:22 GMT
I received my certificate this week. Lucky I hadn't planned to be vaccinated.
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Post by spindrift on Feb 4, 2010 21:54:33 GMT
Today I read in a newspaper that the Swine flu help lines had been discontinued. The scare is officially over then.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2010 21:22:20 GMT
Absolutely nobody talks about it anymore. What a surprise it will be when it return!
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Post by bixaorellana on Feb 21, 2010 17:01:54 GMT
I believe you're old enough, kerouac, that you aren't at great risk anyway. Anyone alive prior to 1960 has some natural immunity to H1N1 from exposure to a previous similar virus. I haven't looked at this thread in a while, so didn't see Kimby's post. That is really interesting, Kimby. Are there natural immunities to any of the other flus, or is that only known as each one comes along?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2010 6:45:48 GMT
Have not seen or heard a word about this flu for weeks now. Has it totally disappeared everywhere (while it plots its revenge for next season)?
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Post by spindrift on Feb 22, 2010 10:30:44 GMT
I'm surprised that there is a notice, on our local surgery door, that Swine Flu vaccinations are still currently available. Who, in their right mind, would want them now?
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Post by tillystar on Feb 22, 2010 12:45:15 GMT
I know, its bizarre! We had a letter telling us to book an appointment as they are now vaccinating all under 5s. Oh well done.
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Post by Kimby on Feb 22, 2010 16:41:25 GMT
I believe you're old enough, kerouac, that you aren't at great risk anyway. Anyone alive prior to 1960 has some natural immunity to H1N1 from exposure to a previous similar virus. I haven't looked at this thread in a while, so didn't see Kimby's post. That is really interesting, Kimby. Are there natural immunities to any of the other flus, or is that only known as each one comes along? www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,566682,00.html This attempts to explain the residual immunity older folks may have. Not sure if I trust the source though as it's Fox News. Interestingly, they say 60 years old, when previous references to this immunity say people alive before 1960, which would include everyone 50 years or older.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 3, 2010 21:08:03 GMT
The person reporting the findings is a veterinarian. Not that I don't respect veterinarians, nor inspired research by any scientific person, but ........
This also could bring us to the whole discussion about over-immunizing, and whether or not certain immunizations prevent our own immune system from doing its job.
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Post by cristina on Mar 3, 2010 21:58:37 GMT
The person reporting the findings is a veterinarian. Not that I don't respect veterinarians, nor inspired research by any scientific person, but ........ This also could bring us to the whole discussion about over-immunizing, and whether or not certain immunizations prevent our own immune system from doing its job. I'll jump in to defend the veterinarian... she's actually an expert in avian flu research and since the H1N1 virus has genes from both the avian and swine viruses, I think hers was probably a pretty decent opinion to quote. As for immunity, I still refrain from flu vaccines of any kind because I do believe in the power of my own immune system. At least up to this point in my life. But I do think it would make for an interesting discussion.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 3, 2010 22:05:23 GMT
Ah - that is pertinent information, Cristina. Thanks.
I waffle furiously about vaccination in general. On the one hand, my good health may well be the result of childhood immunization, and my child certainly got his shots. On the other hand, I believe that middle-aged and elderly people in the US, at least, are way too dependent on medical intervention for every little thing, and far too often don't even try to take charge of their own health.
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Post by Kimby on Mar 15, 2010 21:53:59 GMT
This also could bring us to the whole discussion about over-immunizing, and whether or not certain immunizations prevent our own immune system from doing its job. Also, many doctors say that pneumonia is "the old person's friend" meaning that it's a good way to go. Then they give them an immunization against pneumonia. What's that all about?
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