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Post by whatagain on Jul 24, 2021 11:21:09 GMT
Oh sorry, had not noticed it came from you Mark.
Bon appétit, enjoy your meal. Looks delicious.
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Post by casimira on Jul 24, 2021 14:25:54 GMT
Casi, as with many American burgers and sandwiches. Yes, I was thinking the same. There are some Poboy sandwiches here that are pretty big. My solution is to slice it into quarters. Much more manageable to eat without the whole thing falling apart.
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Post by casimira on Jul 24, 2021 14:31:47 GMT
I have a question for the Brits. Because tea is the beverage I associate with Brits, do y'all drink iced tea to accompany your meals? Here, and most of the South, iced tea is the predominate beverage offered. It's often much too sweet for me but many places have an unsweetened iced tea and I add my own preferred amount of sugar. Accompanied by lemon of course.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 24, 2021 16:13:31 GMT
Nope from me.
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Post by patricklondon on Jul 24, 2021 16:42:24 GMT
I have a question for the Brits. Because tea is the beverage I associate with Brits, do y'all drink iced tea to accompany your meals? No. I'm not sure many drink iced tea at all. If one's the sort to drink tea with a meal (which not everyone is), it'd likely be strong hot builder's tea.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 24, 2021 16:44:33 GMT
I am not British but when i drink tea during a meal it is always hot
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 24, 2021 16:50:48 GMT
Forgive me if I've told this story here before ~
When I was a child my family spent some weeks in Torremolinos. There was a English family staying nearby with a daughter with whom my brother & I were friends. She had lunch with us one day -- a meal of fried chicken accompanied by iced tea. The poor girl! First she took a sip of her drink, which caused her to blurt, "It's tea! It's cold!". Then, because she had such lovely manners, she wouldn't eat her chicken until my mother demonstrated that it was perfectly okay to pick it up with her fingers.
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Post by casimira on Jul 24, 2021 17:53:29 GMT
Just the answer I was looking for from y'all. I find it so curious though, that this is the case and wonder how and why super sweetened iced tea is so prevalent in the US South. It is not the case further North, just here.
I don't recall that story Bixa but I can certainly believe that is the case with other foods as well. The most glaring example is how people who are eating boiled crawfish for the first time and have no clue as to to how to "approach" it so to speak. I have witnessed some downright comical scenarios at the NOLA Jazz Fest.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 24, 2021 20:53:04 GMT
Bixa, Torremolinos is belgian territory. We even have a song about it. Let us stay serious and focused.
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Post by lugg on Jul 24, 2021 20:56:55 GMT
Casi - if I was eating fish, chips and peas I would definitely have it with hot tea with milk , no sugar . Nothing better.
I am out of kilter with the other Brits I guess because I do drink iced tea a lot in the Summer . Home made, with lots of lemon and just a tiny pinch of sugar. Usually I use normal ie black tea but I also make it with green tea or chai .
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 24, 2021 21:06:12 GMT
I suffered as a child because I absolutely refused to drink iced tea but I didn't dare ay it to anyone. We didn't have it at home or at least other options were also available, so that was not a problem but when we were invited to other people's houses I would eat the meal in total stoicism and not touch the big glass of iced tea placed in front of me even though I was dying of thirst.
One day, somebody at a big group meal finally noticed this and i was saved. I finally found myself able to drink iced tea at around the age of 30, but it is far from my favourite beverage.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 24, 2021 21:51:18 GMT
people who are eating boiled crawfish for the first time and have no clue as to to how to "approach" it so to speak. An Albert DuPont story ~ Albert entered the Maple Leaf once afternoon with a 3lb. bag of hot crawfish he'd just purchased next door at Christiana Seafood. He got a beer & happily dug into the bag. A tourist woman a few stools down asked in a pronounced midwestern accent, "Are those things crayfish?" Albert said, "Yes, would you like to try one?", as he handed a nice big one over. She popped the whole thing into her mouth and chewed it as everyone looked on aghast. Somehow she managed to swallow it & pronounced, "Interesting. Crunchy." Torremolinos is belgian territory. I was there long, long ago, Whatagain, in the 1950s. Re: tea ~ Casimira, have you ever tried asking for half sweetened & half unsweetened tea at a restaurant. Usually it comes out well and easier than getting sugar to dissolve in the cold beverage when you sweeten it yourself. On a personal note, I see two people in a row have mentioned lemon with tea. Even canned iced tea seems to always come with lemon flavor. This is a combination I've never understood. If god meant us to put lemon in hot or iced tea, he wouldn't have given us milk nor mint. For the record, I like hot tea plain, but cold tea with sugar & maybe some mint.
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Post by questa on Jul 25, 2021 2:12:52 GMT
My first overseas trip was to Burma (Myanmar) and I made almost every mistake in the book. The worst was I had no USD for the money changers so had to change at the Govt rates of 5 kyats per USD when the going rate with "the boys" was giving 96 kyats. A litre of water cost me USD 5. I saw that at each stop the green tea was free and plentiful, so whenever we stopped I refilled my water bottle with tea and grew to like it. Now I drink green tea in hot weather and ordinary tea with milk and a little sugar, or coffee in winter.
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Post by bjd on Jul 25, 2021 6:13:35 GMT
I pretty much have stopped drinking tea, and don't remember ever being served iced tea with a meal, but I do know lots of people who drink tea (usually hot) with a slice of lemon. I did it myself, though not systematically. Either no sugar or a little bit.
However, I dislike the taste of tea with milk, which is probably why I find tea in England undrinkable because it is too strong.
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Post by onlyMark on Jul 25, 2021 6:40:52 GMT
bjd, I presume you mean when you order it and not make it yourself? The daughters love iced tea but it doesn't appeal to me at all. As mentioned by Patrick, if I do have tea it's pretty strong 'builders' type though I drink little anyway, preferring coffee. If I want a sweet hit I'll go for Indian chai but in Germany you struggle to find anything but fruit/flower/herb teas. There is black tea but tends to be pretty weak for my taste though the closest I've got is Ostfriesen tea (East Frisian).
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Post by casimira on Jul 25, 2021 15:20:40 GMT
Casi - if I was eating fish, chips and peas I would definitely have it with hot tea with milk , no sugar . Nothing better. I am out of kilter with the other Brits I guess because I do drink iced tea a lot in the Summer . Home made, with lots of lemon and just a tiny pinch of sugar. Usually I use normal ie black tea but I also make it with green tea or chai . That's exactly how I drink mine Lugg (the iced version). I really enjoy iced green tea and drink it quite a bit. However, one summer years back, I did a whole lot more cycling than I do now. I would bring a insulated bottle filled with green iced tea. At some point, I started to get these intense headaches of an unknown origin. It turns out that it was because I was dehydrated. Stupid me did not realize that the iced green tea was a diuretic and contributed to my dehydration. Bixa, some restaurants offer an unsweetened iced tea and some have simple syrup to add to the tea for one's desired sweetness. As far as lemons go, for me, and T as well, we always add lemon to both iced and hot tea. Like BJD, I really don't care for milk in my hot tea. Oh, and I do like the addition of mint to my iced tea as well (along with the lemon).
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 25, 2021 16:03:04 GMT
Frankly, I am a big fan of milk tea at breakfast when I am in the UK. I find it so delightfully exotic.
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Post by onlyMark on Jul 25, 2021 17:44:11 GMT
Stupid me did not realize that the iced green tea was a diuretic and contributed to my dehydration. You can't say all tea is diuretic. Or that they have the same effect. Adding sugar tends to increase the diuretic effect. For many years I think I overestimated this effect and with the weaker teas the water content still hydrates you. For sure tea is less diuretic than coffee but if you cast your eyes down this article it has what I believe now to be quite accurate information. For example - "Despite the diuretic effect of caffeine, both herbal and caffeine-containing teas are unlikely to dehydrate you. To have a significant diuretic effect, caffeine needs to be consumed in amounts greater than 500 mg — or the equivalent of 6–13 cups (1,440–3,120 ml) of tea (7Trusted Source, 8Trusted Source). Researchers report that when consumed in moderate amounts, caffeinated drinks — including tea — are as hydrating as water." The links in the article are clickable and take you through to medical reports - www.healthline.com/nutrition/does-tea-dehydrate-you#dehydration-risk
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 25, 2021 18:57:36 GMT
I usually have four cups of tea first thing, no milk or sugar, another mid morning, another mid afternoon.
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Post by casimira on Jul 25, 2021 20:39:22 GMT
Mark, I was consuming way more than that. From the time I would start work outdoors early in the morning and on throughout the day. And, hardly any just plain water. My PCP referred me to a neurologist and they ordered me to have a brain scan. The neurologist told me I might have a brain aneurism and recommended brain surgery. By this time, the headaches had subsided. Anyway, I got a second opinion from a neurologist from the Mayo clinic, sent him the disc of the scan. After a phone conference with me, he asked a series of questions and one was how much water I drank during the day. I told him very little but told him how much green tea I drank. He told me I did not need brain surgery and that the tiny dot that was on the scan, about the size of a raisin didn't merit having my skull opened up. The headaches subsided completely and I don't have a scar on my head.
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Post by onlyMark on Jul 26, 2021 6:13:25 GMT
Glad that was cleared up then. A major procedure as opposed to adjusting diet. Quite a difference.
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Post by mich64 on Jul 26, 2021 15:27:36 GMT
I drink a lot of tea each day, even in the summer. I do not drink iced tea, I tried it once and did not like it at all. It is on menus here and a few friends drink it but otherwise I would never think of it.
I bring tea bag with me on holiday just in case my accommodations do not offer the kinds I enjoy. Milk, no sugar, if there is a fridge, we buy a little bottle/carton of milk. I do not particularly like herbal/fruit/flower teas but I do like Chai tea. Iced coffee is very popular here.
I do not think I would like mushy peas.
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Post by patricklondon on Jul 26, 2021 16:37:28 GMT
I bring tea bag with me on holiday just in case my accommodations do not offer the kinds I enjoy. Milk, no sugar, if there is a fridge, we buy a little bottle/carton of milk. I do not think I would like mushy peas. I have a travel-size kettle to make sure of having boiling water, but usually rely on whatever black tea is available locally (as well as milk). And I loathe mushy peas.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 26, 2021 17:05:10 GMT
It’s a Northern delicacy Patrick.
Not our sort of thing at all. 🧐
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 26, 2021 17:13:29 GMT
I can't wait to see mushy peas in real life some day since I have never seen them. But I have never looked for them either. But right across from Gare du Nord in Paris I have seen beans for breakfast (along with the other items), so certain specific British items do arrive in France. However, since covid has reduced the number of Eurostars arriving from London to just two a day instead of 14, I hope they are watching the expiration dates on their tins of beans.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 26, 2021 18:54:06 GMT
It’s a Northern delicacy Patrick. Not our sort of thing at all. 🧐 Ha! I always suspected you had a monocle up your sleeve, Mick! As far as I can remember, I've had mushy peas twice, once in a museum restaurant & once in some other restaurant or café. Both times were in England, so theoretically authentic, but also both times in southern England, so apparently suspect. Both versions were okay with me since I like pulses in general. One was indeed bright green & the other more like how cooked dried peas look. At any rate, I found this exhaustive discussion of mushy peas. If it is indeed accurate, what I took away from it was marrowfat peas or nothing. What I would have liked to have known is if regular split peas cooked down with only salt as a seasoning bear any resemblance to mushy peas. www.daringgourmet.com/british-mushy-peas/
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Post by lugg on Jul 26, 2021 19:29:53 GMT
When I was about 14 I worked in a fish and chip shop - café and take away in a Lancashire town. 4 hours on a Saturday for the grand sum of £1. Mostly I served , cleared plates, loaded the dish washer but I also stirred the huge vats of mushy peas as they were cooking. We had bags of marrow fat peas which were dried, I seem to remember that sodium bicarb was added - the amount determined the colour but also the mushiness. What I would have liked to have known is if regular split peas cooked down with only salt as a seasoning bear any resemblance to mushy peas I doubt it Bixa but it is possible of course.
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Post by fumobici on Jul 26, 2021 20:11:39 GMT
The last two times I went to a chip shop in London, the fish came served with mushy peas unbidden. The first time I thought, "Guacamole?" I'd rather it had been, but I ate them all.
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Post by onlyMark on Jul 26, 2021 20:15:58 GMT
What I would have liked to have known is if regular split peas cooked down with only salt as a seasoning bear any resemblance to mushy peas. What I'd like to know is if the food you get at Taco Bell bears any resemblance to proper Mexican food. Exact same answer methinks.
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Post by patricklondon on Jul 26, 2021 21:11:01 GMT
What I would have liked to have known is if regular split peas cooked down with only salt as a seasoning bear any resemblance to mushy peas If dried yellow split peas, that would be pease pudding, which some people (like my dad) like(d) to eat with boiled ham. I never cared for that either. On the other hand, I have been given mashed-up garden peas, which I found palatable, certainly more so than marrowfat or other dried peas.
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