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Post by Kimby on Jun 19, 2021 5:03:31 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 19, 2021 5:10:34 GMT
That article does not explain why they chose the stupid name. Is it supposed to be black English?
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Post by spaceneedle on Jun 19, 2021 8:51:28 GMT
kerouac2 It was formerly called Jubliee Day, Freedom Day, and Emancipation Day and then at some point it became the portmanteau word it is now. There is also a Ralph Ellison book of the same name.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 19, 2021 9:15:44 GMT
I am very worried about it being confused with June thirteenth, June fourteenth, June fifteenth, June sixteenth, June seventeenth and June eighteenth. And if I am not mistaken, it is designed to be observed on normal working days, so that means that it will be June 20th that federal employees will get off next year.
So logical! What a great name!
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Post by spaceneedle on Jun 19, 2021 9:36:51 GMT
And if I am not mistaken, it is designed to be observed on normal working days, so that means that it will be June 20th that federal employees will get off next year. The holiday is designated as June 19th every year, if that day falls on a Saturday, then Friday is the designated federal holiday. If it falls on a Sunday, then Monday is the designated day off. If it falls on a weekday, then the actual day will be the holiday. The 4th of July holiday is organized the same way and for example, this year, July 4th is a Sunday, so it is observed as a federal holiday on Monday July 5th.
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Post by bjd on Jun 19, 2021 11:59:56 GMT
I agree with Kerouac -- is it that difficult to add a syllable, nine, to an already longish word to make it more understandable?
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Post by Kimby on Jun 19, 2021 13:21:47 GMT
Lighten up folks! I think it was a colloquially developed name and seems more cheerful than “Emancipation Day”. Sort of a “Cinco de Mayo” feel. (Though that one is less likely to be confused with other Dias en Mayo.)
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 19, 2021 13:28:30 GMT
Can we call it Junth instead? Can you imagine the younger generation having to text the name properly?
The corresponding day in France (May 10th) is called "Journée nationale des mémoires de la traite, de l'esclavage et de leur abolition." National day of commemoration of human trafficking, slavery and its abolition. It is a special educational day in schools, not a day for backyard barbecues. The website dedicated to this also mentions that France is the only country in the world that has officially decreed slavery and human trafficking to be a crime against humanity.
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Post by rikita on Jun 21, 2021 22:16:42 GMT
i am not nor have ever been american so don't know much about this, so i might be completely wrong ... but i would suppose the people that have celebrated it so far (i would suppose mainly black people), have been calling the day juneteenth for a while, now? if so, wouldn't changing the name they use in a way take something away from them?
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Post by rikita on Jun 21, 2021 22:23:46 GMT
does that happen with all holidays there? wish that was the case here - if a holiday falls on a weekend, then it is "lost" for that year (well, i guess if you work weekends you still get extra pay for working on a holiday) - like, this year may 1st and october 3rd and december 25th and 26th and january 1st next year are all on weekends - that's half of my public holidays!
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Post by fumobici on Jun 21, 2021 23:01:38 GMT
i am not nor have ever been american so don't know much about this, so i might be completely wrong ... but i would suppose the people that have celebrated it so far (i would suppose mainly black people), have been calling the day juneteenth for a while, now? if so, wouldn't changing the name they use in a way take something away from them? It certainly would indeed.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 22, 2021 0:53:19 GMT
Thank you, Rikita! Finally a decent, thoughtful comment to balance out the pointlessly snide comments about an innocent name. (& thank you, Fumobici for corroborating Rikita's perception) Rikita, as far as all holidays, I think the guidelines above only strictly refer to Federal holidays, although probably states follow the same format: www.employmentlawhandbook.com/leave-laws/federal-state-holidays/Until I looked at that link, I never realized that Inauguration Day was a Federal holiday.
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Post by casimira on Jun 22, 2021 1:36:20 GMT
I concur with Rikita, Fumobici and Bixa on this. Too confusing enough as it is trying to figure out what "eenth" is supposed to be the holiday. Ridiculous.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 22, 2021 1:42:01 GMT
I don't get what you're saying, Casimira, I think Juneteenth is a perfectly fine name & don't understand all the carping about it.
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Post by questa on Jun 22, 2021 4:55:32 GMT
For speaking it would be better said as "joon-et-teenth" with stresses on the 1st and last syllables and the "et" hardly heard. Bit like "Gin and tonic"
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Post by onlyMark on Jun 22, 2021 7:00:42 GMT
The website dedicated to this also mentions that France is the only country in the world that has officially decreed slavery and human trafficking to be a crime against humanity. "Enslavement" is a part of the definition of what is or not a crime against humanity. I take what you say but I thought that would have covered it for all, not just France.
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Post by onlyMark on Jun 22, 2021 7:06:08 GMT
Rikita, regarding holidays - off the top of my head Germany is one of the few that if the holiday is at a weekend, you lose it. I stand to be corrected though. If any of those here in different countries or knowledge of them can say which they know to do the same.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 22, 2021 11:12:21 GMT
In France you lose weekend holidays, too, except in certain companies. I was one of the lucky ones, and it always made my friends groan.
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Post by onlyMark on Jun 22, 2021 12:52:20 GMT
Did you get all/some of the Muslim holidays as well? We do/did.
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Post by Kimby on Jun 22, 2021 13:05:13 GMT
Now that air travel is roaring back in popularity, it’s almost impossible to talk to anyone on the phone. They are changing schedules constantly, and if you need to make a change precipitated by their changes, you have to get in a queue. At least they offer a call-back option that “preserves your place in line.”
Yesterday I was told that the wait would be 2 hours and 41 minutes at 7 am. The call-back did not come till after lunch. The day before, Mr. Kimby was in the queue for over six hours.
At least we aren’t dealing with American Airlines which cancelled hundreds of flights abruptly in the past few days. Unlike other US airlines that used pandemic PPP funds to keep their employees on the payroll, American furloughed their pilots and crews, and now they can’t get enough of them back to work to service their flight schedules, stranding passengers with no warning. Plus, they got rid of the older planes in their fleet during the pandemic, meaning many pilots need training on newer aircraft before they can get back to work. It will be weeks or months before they get back up to speed.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 22, 2021 14:17:44 GMT
Did you get all/some of the Muslim holidays as well? We do/did. No, we got none of them but on the other hand, the office always closed at 13:00 on Good Friday, Christmas and New Year's Eve. There was absolutely no official policy about this, but the executive secretary would always make it clear to the local manager that this was the way we liked it and it would be unwise to change tradition. It was also not permitted for Muslim employees to get extra time off during Ramadan -- they could leave an hour early only if they skipped their lunch break.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 22, 2021 14:27:55 GMT
Now that air travel is roaring back in popularity, it’s almost impossible to talk to anyone on the phone. They are changing schedules constantly, and if you need to make a change precipitated by their changes, you have to get in a queue. At least they offer a call-back option that “preserves your place in line.” Yesterday I was told that the wait would be 2 hours and 41 minutes at 7 am. The call-back did not come till after lunch. The day before, Mr. Kimby was in the queue for over six hours. At least we aren’t dealing with American Airlines which cancelled hundreds of flights abruptly in the past few days. Unlike other US airlines that used pandemic PPP funds to keep their employees on the payroll, American furloughed their pilots and crews, and now they can’t get enough of them back to work to service their flight schedules, stranding passengers with no warning. Plus, they got rid of the older planes in their fleet during the pandemic, meaning many pilots need training on newer aircraft before they can get back to work. It will be weeks or months before they get back up to speed. I don't know if this is true, but on another forum I saw that people were complaining that while their American vaccination certificates were fine for traveling to Europe and some other places without any additional formality, Americans are still required to supply a new covid test for returning to the United States, because the US does not accept its own vaccination certificates.
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Post by Kimby on Jun 22, 2021 15:30:09 GMT
K2, I believe this is still true.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 22, 2021 16:45:06 GMT
I'm pretty sure it's universally true that vaccination certificates are not the criteria for entering the US by air -- only a covid test will serve. People leaving Mexico for the US via air have reported that a negative test, either antigen or molecular is sufficient. However a German friend returning to Germany from here by air was all set to go with his negative antigen test when he discovered that Germany also required a molecular (RT-PCR) test. What is strange is that it appears you need no proof of being covid-free to enter the US by any method other than air.
Re: holidays ~ Mexico has the same rule about Federal holidays as the US, meaning if one falls on a Saturday, Friday will be the day off and if it falls on a Sunday, Monday will be the free day. Here that is called a "puente" -- bridge.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jun 22, 2021 17:34:43 GMT
In France, "ponts" (bridges) cover a gap -- for example when holidays fall on Tuesday or Thursday, a lot of people bridge it by taking Monday or Friday off. And when somebody makes a bridge to reach a holiday on Wednesday, it is called a viaduct.
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Post by onlyMark on Jun 22, 2021 18:48:22 GMT
However a German friend returning to Germany from here by air was all set to go with his negative antigen test when he discovered that Germany also required a molecular (RT-PCR) test. "Antigen tests for direct detection of the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus from all countries are also recognized. The prerequisite is that the antigen tests used meet the minimum criteria recommended by the WHO for the quality of SARS-CoV-2-Ag rapid tests." www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Tests.html;jsessionid=80EA71064EFDA5596DAA93089D56B48A.internet091?nn=13490888Airlines use a database called Timatic - www.iata.org/en/publications/timatic/For them, this a bible for who can travel where and what is needed. I think to gain full access to this, you need to pay, but I think there are other websites that parrot that information. The point is, the info on Timatic and the info direct from the country doesn't always marry up, especially there is a lag when updates to the entry requirements of a country occur. This has caused, and I've read about quite a few, whereby a traveller has been refused boarding even though they've shown the official country entry requirements. Timatic may specify only a PCR test is acceptable. It may be in the case of your friend that no antigen tests at all issued in Mexico are recognised by the WHO. I've not gone into that though. That's how I understand it.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 22, 2021 19:34:21 GMT
This has caused, and I've read about quite a few, whereby a traveller has been refused boarding even though they've shown the official country entry requirements. Well, he's back in Germany now at any rate. Fortunately he has traveled a lot, so knew to check for last minute changes.
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Post by onlyMark on Jun 22, 2021 20:02:15 GMT
Good then.
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Post by mickthecactus on Aug 2, 2021 20:52:23 GMT
Two peeves.
I have a problem with my water heater whereby the overflow is continually overflowing. The supplier doesn’t want to know because it’s out of warranty so recommend a specialist about 30 miles away. No answer to their phone so I leave a message this morning. No response.
My grass strimmer needs a new spool cap as the old one disintegrated last week. I ring the manufacturer helpline all day. Never a reply. Go to the supplier. They can’t help. Find a possible replacement on the internet but not convinced. Do I purchase?
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Post by bixaorellana on Aug 2, 2021 22:17:39 GMT
I feel your pain, Mick. I have a blender I love. Everything on it works -- blades are sharp, motor is fine, glass jar & top all perfect. So what is wrong with it? The blankety-blank bottom screw cap, which of course is plastic, has disintegrated to the point that I'm afraid to use it. This is the same kind of thing as the spool cap you need -- why didn't they just make them out of a better material? Whatever happened to bakelite? That stuff lasts forever.
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