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Post by mickthecactus on Jul 2, 2020 16:53:37 GMT
What about 3 or 4 hours?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 2, 2020 16:59:47 GMT
I know people who can finish a bottle of wine in less than 45 minutes. I'm sure that I have done it myself on occasion.
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Post by tod2 on Jul 4, 2020 12:08:34 GMT
Mick, the correct way to serve a good red wine is to decanter it into a flagon or sorts. Your Waterford Chrystal should do the job! Not only does it allow the wine to breath but is supposedly to prevent the "dregs" slipping into your wine glass. Opening a bottle of red and just leaving it for an hour or so is not as beneficial as you can imagine because the neck of the bottle is too small for the amount of air it needs. Otherwise you could do the old slurpy slurp similar to gargling…..like folks do at a wine tasting. All that gurgling would put me off!
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Post by bjd on Jul 4, 2020 14:55:09 GMT
Gurgling, Tod??
For two years now I have been to a professional wine buying salon in Paris, in a section where people did nothing but taste. They smell the wine, then taste by moving it around in their mouths, then spit it out. Believe, I didn't hear any gurgling.
At home with my husband, we usually take at least 4 meals to finish a bottle of wine.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 5, 2020 0:07:26 GMT
No, it doesn't. I can buy box wines identical to bottled wines at a discount. Of course I re-bottle them with a funnel. Wine is expensive here, and also important culturally. It may be admirable, but I know no Québécois/e who would happily make do with 1/8th of a bottle of wine.
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Post by tod2 on Jul 5, 2020 14:11:07 GMT
Ha Ha bjd! I think some wine tasters try and make an impression so take a huge amount of air as they sip the wine. Maybe I should have said "all that slurping" sound!! I am not a person to take to a wine tasting…I can't spit it out. So am pretty cross-eyed by the end of a Wine tasting tour...
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Post by lagatta on Jul 5, 2020 14:51:45 GMT
Just so you aren't the one driving home... Hope you're having a mild winter; not that horrid one during the World Cup.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 5, 2020 16:28:18 GMT
I had Dutch beer with dinner but not Heineken.
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Post by tod2 on Jul 5, 2020 16:35:38 GMT
An enjoyable gin & tonic while watching with one eye on the Austrian Grand Prix and the other on my French cut lamb loin rack. As previously I roasted it in the Airfryer.. As it was quite fatty and it crisped up beautifully, I can only say dinner was great especially washed down with a very nice Shiraz from Laborie Estate.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 5, 2020 16:54:07 GMT
Lots of restaurants now put yhe bottle under nitrogen (n2) which stops oxygen to interact and rust/degrade wine. Which makes it more and more possible to have very good wine by the glass. Mind you folated glass is also oroduced under N2. P
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Post by whatagain on Jul 5, 2020 16:56:56 GMT
Now we had some good friends at dinner last week. We were 4. Started at 8 pm ended 1 am. 5 hours. One btle of chamoagne (comtesse de ?crissin? ) one spectacular rose Vacqueyras and 3 splendid Seguret... Luckily my bottles of whisky and rum were near empty so we had only one digeo. Hips.
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Post by fumobici on Jul 5, 2020 18:21:57 GMT
I had Dutch beer with dinner but not Heineken. Dutch industrial beer (and all the Dutch beer I've had falls into that category) tastes quite similar to me. Much like all US industrial beer does. NL has probably developed a craft beer culture since my last visit, but I've seen 0 evidence of one in even the best beer shops here. Ages ago there was a detectably superior Dutch beer that came in opaque white half-liter bottles but the name completely escapes me now.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 5, 2020 18:27:13 GMT
Yes, it was an industrial brand, which is actually what I prefer with food. My own feeling is that craft beers should be appreciated all by themselves.
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Post by bjd on Jul 5, 2020 18:30:52 GMT
I agree that Heineken is tasteless. Not that I'm a big beer drinker but it is really poor. I usually buy Belgian beer, and prefer ambré to blond.
Speaking of the Dutch and drinking. Back in the old days, my first trans-Atlantic charter flight was on some Dutch company whose name escapes me now. In those days you could walk up and down the aisles, smoke... Anyway, at one point, the air hostesses stood together in the front of the place and asked everyone to guess how much they weighed all together. The prize for the winner was a bottle of jenever -- a Dutch gin in a clay bottle.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 6, 2020 5:31:01 GMT
I drank jenever in Flanders. Quite good. Never here. For me it tasted close to the thing you get in the Alps. Would that be simply genievre ?
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 6, 2020 5:34:03 GMT
All of the juniper flavoured alcohols taste similar.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 6, 2020 5:44:49 GMT
I drank jenever in Flanders. Quite good. As did I, Whatagain, on your recommendation. I have pictures to prove it, too!
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Post by tod2 on Jul 6, 2020 8:01:33 GMT
I've never tasted BOLS JENEVA but have an empty bottle somewhere in my little wine cellar. I think I bought it at a flea market just because it was so unusual.
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Post by tod2 on Jul 17, 2020 15:51:40 GMT
In my glass tonight was a robust merlot from the Bellingham Estate . Most unusual round top on the neck of the bottle which made extracting the cork quite a challenge.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 17, 2020 19:21:46 GMT
Verquiere. Gigondas. Appellation Gigondas protégée Romain et Thibaut Chamfort. Vallee du Rhone. 2011.
Grenache 80 pc. Surah 15 pc. Mourvedre 5 pc.
Bought in Sablet, France. 15 pc alcohol content. Quand même.
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Post by lagatta on Jul 17, 2020 19:54:01 GMT
This is a place in Amsterdam East that has excellent craft beers, and on a pleasant day, it a great place to enjoy them: I say that as someone who isn't a great beer fan (more wine and very dry cider). www.brouwerijhetij.nl/ By Amsterdam East, I mean the eatern part of the central city, not a suburb.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 18, 2020 14:15:00 GMT
It's hot this afternoon, so it called for gin & tonic with a lot of ice (a heresy for purists).
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Post by lagatta on Jul 18, 2020 15:07:18 GMT
Not right now but yesterday evening, a particularly good vintage of Borsao (Seleccion 2019), usually a rather ordinary Spanish rosé, but that vintage was much better, very dry.
I had a tortilla for supper.
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Post by tod2 on Jul 18, 2020 16:47:08 GMT
Kerouac - I 'doctor' my G&T with a frozen fresh squeezed lemon ice block. The lemon doesn't really freeze rock hard so pleasantly spikes the tonic fairly quickly. Then a dash of bitters to turn the whole thing fairy pink and an ice block or three, I'm a happy lass. Tonight I had two pleasant glasses of a blend called 'Railroad Red'. Very easy drinking with my steak dinner.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 19, 2020 15:51:57 GMT
Your gin & tonic sounds excellent, tod, but my needs are often more urgent and could not wait for all of the preparation. It is all I can do to slice the lime.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 22, 2020 0:07:49 GMT
I'm enjoying a nice cold glassful of ayran.
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Post by kerouac2 on Jul 30, 2020 18:10:07 GMT
I'm drinking chilled nameless Spanish rosé, 7 euros for 3 litres. Perfect for my current needs.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 31, 2020 0:00:15 GMT
What's in my glass is the same thing that's in my veins.
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Post by whatagain on Jul 31, 2020 19:39:58 GMT
I opened a Givry grand cru 2010. Good. Real good. The nose already !
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Post by Biddy on Aug 1, 2020 2:05:34 GMT
A gin and tonic with lime slices at 5:00 p.m., always. I use diet tonic - which I have grown to like. I use the Costco brand Kirkland gin. Then with my chicken saute dinner an 'unpretentious' white wine from Trader Joe's. Cheers All!
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