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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 30, 2020 18:39:17 GMT
I think that most of us were raised with the ethic of eating everything on our plate, even though our parents were more lenient than their parents. They had suffered too much from having no other option than going hungry if they didn't eat everything. Most of our parents did make an effort to adapt to our likes and dislikes sincce prosperous times had returned. But they also did their best to teach us to always eat a bit of everything, even if it did not please us. One of the best teaching aids was seeing parents eat things they didn't like very much, because they didn't always like the same things but they would eat them anyway.
In this century, it appears that this concept is disappearing as people eat whatever crap they prefer with little regard to nutrition or balanced diets. Just the fact that fewer and fewer families sit down to a meal at the same time is an abomination.
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Post by onlyMark on Oct 30, 2020 18:59:40 GMT
We had a rule in our house with the kids that no matter what they had on their plate, they couldn't dismiss it out of hand and had to try at least a forkful. Same with if we had something they didn't have - yes, like mushy peas or pickled cabbage - they still had to try some.
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Post by mickthecactus on Oct 30, 2020 20:13:35 GMT
We had a rule in our house with the kids that no matter what they had on their plate, they couldn't dismiss it out of hand and had to try at least a forkful. Same with if we had something they didn't have - yes, like mushy peas or pickled cabbage - they still had to try some. This rule does not apply to brussels sprouts.
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Post by onlyMark on Oct 30, 2020 20:51:49 GMT
As neither of us like them then they'd never be on our plate for the kids to try. That solves that problem. The three kids have been quite a few times with me to the UK and they have tried a lot of UK food, some they like, some they don't. No problem, same as me. But it's always funny to take them to a Carvery because no matter how hungry they say they aren't, or how when younger they didn't easily take to trying different things, when we first ever went and I loaded my plate up with everything I could and got them to try it all (especially gammon which was a total unknown), but now if we go they are like gannets hoovering up all the types of meat and veg. Plus as much gravy they can fit in the spaces. It's the only type of meal we've ever gone for where none of them start saying they don't like something.
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Post by tod2 on Oct 31, 2020 10:44:14 GMT
Talking of carvery Mark, we were absolutely horrified at the amount of wasted food being cleared away by the waitresses in the Las Vegas Casino buffets. People just piled their plates up, took a few bites and pushed the plate aside. Only to join the queue again and serve themselves more food! I don't want to even hear that it's not wasted because it goes to pig farms……
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Post by onlyMark on Oct 31, 2020 11:25:46 GMT
Not sure about other countries where there is a chain of Chinese buffet restaurants called Wok(s) but in Spain, if you leave more than necessary on your plate you are not allowed to go up and fill it again. The waiter/waitresses monitor this as they clear your plate away.
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Post by tod2 on Oct 31, 2020 13:46:02 GMT
I feel a food fight coming on…….
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Post by patricklondon on Oct 31, 2020 15:41:59 GMT
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Post by bixaorellana on Oct 31, 2020 15:45:07 GMT
we were absolutely horrified at the amount of wasted food being cleared away by the waitresses in the Las Vegas Casino buffets. People just piled their plates up, took a few bites and pushed the plate aside. Only to join the queue again and serve themselves more food! This has long been a pet peeve of mine, as it's absolutely infuriating. After all, patrons are allowed to go back as many times as they please, so there is no reason to serve themselves piggish amounts. I've seen people walk away from buffets with plates so laden that things are falling off. You can even see this kind of behavior at potlucks, where you'd think people would be somewhat controlled by the social setting. But no -- "I'll just take half of this casserole dish and the hell with everyone else." Then later you see that person's plate abandoned, still holding enough food for a small village and adorned with cigarette butts and crushed napkins. Not sure about other countries where there is a chain of Chinese buffet restaurants called Wok(s) but in Spain, if you leave more than necessary on your plate you are not allowed to go up and fill it again. The waiter/waitresses monitor this as they clear your plate away. Absolutely! The only limit at this kind of buffet is ones own appetite and the point isn't to "get your money's worth" by piling on more than you can eat. It's a shame that the pigs can only be stopped from returning to the buffet table. They should be made to stand on their chairs and be publicly humiliated.
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Post by kerouac2 on Oct 31, 2020 17:09:37 GMT
When I took my parents to Phuket, the buffet was so fantastic that we all overloaded out plates the first day. Everything looked beyond wonderful. However, we learned to moderate our selections for the rest of the week, so I think we were forgiven.
There are some buffet places in France that actually warn you that there will be a charge for any food left on the plate. I'm not sure if this is just a friendly warning or a hollow threat.
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Post by tod2 on Nov 1, 2020 13:17:00 GMT
Reading through these comments again I have realised why we don't have that problem here in South Africa. Yes, I've seen parents order a full kids meal for a child that will only pick at the chips/ fries, and the whole meal goes back to the kitchen - But wait! What is this coming back with the waitress? Yes indeed, it is the rest of the meal scooped into a polystyrene take-away box….here referred to as a 'doggie-bag'. Either the kid will eat the rest later for another meal or the family pooch is in for a treat. Adult 'doggie bags' are very common. As I have no shame, I have often beckoned the waitress to add any leftover nice bits of meat to my bag if I see it's headed for the bin. My dog loves me.
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Post by kerouac2 on Nov 1, 2020 14:56:25 GMT
We have doggie bags in France, but only if you ask for them. Naturally, at a buffet restaurant it would be pretty immoral to overload your plate just have have things to take home.
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Post by tod2 on Nov 2, 2020 10:25:59 GMT
Yes indeed Kerouac! Actually if my memory serves me right there could be a notice in the dining area of a buffet stating that there are no 'doggie bags' permitted. Only fair, but what is this!? It's the office Xmas party and the tables are groaning with snacks. Staff are lining up to pile up their plates and later lining up with their "Tupperware" containers so they can fill them to take home…….
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Post by kerouac2 on Nov 2, 2020 12:21:44 GMT
At every year end office event that I attended, we always knew exactly who was going to scramble for all of the remaining items, but they also happened to be the employees with the lowest salaries, so nobody minded.
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Post by tod2 on Nov 3, 2020 11:12:26 GMT
Mickthecactus - crack open the champagne and light a cigar - you have just become a daddy to the cutest little tomato plants!! One at the back was still in the process of exiting it's compost blanket. A 100% success - I still have two seeds left and will plant them as soon as your babies leave the nursery and go out and give us some grandchildren…. Thanks so much for the seeds dad!
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Post by mickthecactus on Nov 3, 2020 12:01:31 GMT
Congratulations! Chinese babies!
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Post by tod2 on Nov 4, 2020 8:22:06 GMT
The vegetables grow more and more plentiful….. this is the latest haul from yesterday. The latest bucket of spuds gave us a better crop than the first buckets the grandchildren emptied onto the lawn..
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Post by mickthecactus on Nov 4, 2020 9:02:00 GMT
A work of art, nothing less.
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Post by bixaorellana on Nov 4, 2020 15:07:12 GMT
What Mick said!!!
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Nov 4, 2020 18:04:52 GMT
Yummy...great crop tod !
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Post by kerouac2 on Nov 9, 2020 15:45:16 GMT
Send me the next batch. Better yet, bring it in person.
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Post by tod2 on Nov 9, 2020 16:35:09 GMT
I would love that more than anything right now Kerouac.
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Post by bjd on Nov 9, 2020 16:51:06 GMT
I bought a little pot of chives today! That's the extent of my edible gardening.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on Nov 9, 2020 20:41:21 GMT
I harvested the rest of the carrots today, grown in an old recycling bin. The best I've grown in a tub. Had to take the last few out because they'd started to be attacked by something or other. Managed to save the last 12.
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Post by kerouac2 on Nov 10, 2020 16:11:20 GMT
My window planter is empty until next spring. I have not yet decided yet if i will empty it completely and put in new potting soil next year or give future plants the challenge of trying to live in the rooty remnants of the previous year with just a minimal addition of new soil.
I also have a pot with my basil plant suffering, and another pot with a little bit of dill that sprouted and decided to remain completely static until better times. I know that both of them are capable of taking off in good weather if they last through the winter. If not, I can always throw them away and replace them in the spring.
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Post by tod2 on Nov 10, 2020 16:42:37 GMT
Mr Tod's advice Kerouac is to start afresh. Dump the old soil. Wash and disinfect with MALT Vinegar…….Kidding! Wash out with plain water. Most people don't realise that soil contains decomposition of old plants is like wine….it's a living breathing being. If you decide to get a small bag of potting soil or compost ( I don't know the real difference except I think one is finer in texture) get a Seaweed plant food in liquid form. Your plants will love you.
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Post by mossie on Nov 11, 2020 7:56:19 GMT
If you want some nice fine soil for potting up, when we were kids we had to go and find fresh molehills and bring that soil home. The moles had eaten or discarded foreign objects.
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Post by tod2 on Nov 11, 2020 8:48:34 GMT
We have dozens of moles under the lawn. So, just scatter the new earth all around where it has come uo.
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Post by kerouac2 on Nov 11, 2020 17:44:30 GMT
Moles must be as good fur turning the earth as earthworms, just a bit messier.
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Post by mickthecactus on Jan 16, 2021 16:56:38 GMT
Growing 11 different varieties of tomato this year. Seeds ordered today.
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