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Post by cheerypeabrain on Mar 28, 2021 19:05:45 GMT
I made a 'philly stuffed meat loaf'
In a pan gently fry up a finely diced onion in a splash of olive oil, add finely diced red and green peppers (add sliced mushrooms if you like but I don't)..when the onion was golden add a splash of white wine vinegar, stir through and season. Set aside to cool.
Grated a 100g potato (skin and all) with a fine grater. Squeeze out as much water as you can (I used a muslin cloth) and put it in a bowl, add 500g quality steak mince (<5% fat), grate in 2 cloves garlic, smidge of cumin, a waft of mixed herbs, splash of Worcestershire sauce and a glug of chilli sauce...add an egg, salt and pepper then squish together with your hands, mixing really well. Line a baking tray with cling film. Tip the mince mixture onto the tray an smooth out into a flat oblong shape (like a swiss roll.) Smooth over a tub of light cream cheese (I used Pliladelphia) leave a gap at each end... and spoon the cooled onion, pepper mix on top. Use the clingfilm in the tray to roll up the construction...so that the cream cheese and vegetable mix is in the centre. Lay bacon over the top, put on a baking tray and bake for 30 minutes at 180°C,then cover with foil to stop it burning and bake for another 25 - 30 minutes. Leave to stand for 10 minutes before slicing. It was delicious with a crisp, green salad (and I've frozen half for another day)
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Post by tod2 on Mar 29, 2021 7:41:42 GMT
Thanks Cheery - I have beef mince thawing for tonight but I don't have cream cheese so it's meatballs I'm afraid! Will try it when I have all the ingredients. My meatballs will have spices really supposed to be used used in hamburger patties, but I cant resist trying the Marrouche spice today. I bought it at a Muslim Hypermarket just because it was different to the usual packet of spices. When I read the packet I see it comes from Lebanon. My packet is the one marked "Dish of the Day - Seasoning mix for Hamburger. www.marroucherestaurants.com/daydish.html
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 29, 2021 14:44:52 GMT
took them right from the soapy water and put them in the drainer to drip dry. She claimed a little soap keeps you regular... The only way to rinse dishes is under running water. Dipping them into a pan of water just won't do the trick. And my mother said that not rinsing dishes properly would give you dysentery. I don't think the consequences would be that dire within a family, but the grease and other residue mixed with the suds & then allowed to dry on the "clean" dishes is yucky at the very least. I have no moral objection to dishwashers, nor do I understand that stance. I do think that with just one or two people in a house it doesn't make sense to store dirty dishes in the machine, rather than washing them by hand as you go along, especially since most people are rinsing the dishes anyway. Cheery that meatloaf sounds positively ambrosial! Did you also try it cold? Seems like the leftovers would make a killer sandwich. Tod, did you make note of what spices were in the packet?
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 29, 2021 15:01:22 GMT
When I took the sleeper train from Nairobi to Mombasa and had dinner with my parents in the dining car (a curry of course), I think that some of you might have fainted if you had seen how the employees were washing the dishes in a bucket on the platform between two cars.
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Post by Kimby on Mar 29, 2021 15:56:52 GMT
took them right from the soapy water and put them in the drainer to drip dry. She claimed a little soap keeps you regular... The only way to rinse dishes is under running water. Dipping them into a pan of water just won't do the trick. And my mother said that not rinsing dishes properly would give you dysentery. I don't think the consequences would be that dire within a family, but the grease and other residue mixed with the suds & then allowed to dry on the "clean" dishes is yucky at the very least. Dysentery is a specific bacterial infection, I believe. Diarrhea is a much more likely outcome, though I’m not aware of any of us getting it. I DID try to run some fresh water over the draining dishes when I had an opportunity. BTW, this was only the situation at the cabin. At home we had a dishwasher, and EVERYTHING went in the dishwasher, including wood-handled MCM flatware and knives that were pretty much ruined by the harsh chemicals and hot water.
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Post by tod2 on Mar 29, 2021 16:05:13 GMT
Kerouac - sounds about right. Fainting would have been allowed....
Bixa - The spices are in French as that is the part I did not cut off: Amidon de pomme de terre, farine de mais, assaisonnement(oignon, poivre blanc, poivre noir, piment de la jamaique,poivron'girofle en poudre,saugel) sel, maltodextrine, Ce produit peut contenir des traces de lait, celerei et de sesame.
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Post by Kimby on Mar 29, 2021 16:24:40 GMT
When I took the sleeper train from Nairobi to Mombasa and had dinner with my parents in the dining car (a curry of course), I think that some of you might have fainted if you had seen how the employees were washing the dishes in a bucket on the platform between two cars. On the Kimby’s first foreign trip in 1988 we totally lost our appetite (what was left of it due to jet lag) when we observed Hong Kong street food vendors using the bucket dishwashing method. Including washing and reusing chopsticks. After that, when in Asia, we travelled with our own chopsticks, as well as flatware for when chopsticks just wouldn’t do.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 29, 2021 17:04:42 GMT
Amidon de pomme de terre, farine de mais, assaisonnement(oignon, poivre blanc, poivre noir, piment de la jamaique,poivron'girofle en poudre,saugel) sel, maltodextrine, Ce produit peut contenir des traces de lait, celerei et de sesame. Potato starch, corn flour, seasoning (onion, white pepper, blac pepper, allspice, clove powder, saugel[?]) salt, maltodextrine, this product may contain traces of milk, celerei[?] and of sesame. If someone can translate saugel you should be able to reproduce that seasoning fairly easily -- maybe better. we totally lost our appetite ... when we observed Hong Kong street food vendors using the bucket dishwashing method. That's the situation at taco stands, too. They use a basin & change the water fairly frequently, but still. The saving grace is that the tacos are place atop a piece of paper on the plate. (I tell myself.)
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 29, 2021 17:16:26 GMT
when we observed Hong Kong street food vendors using the bucket dishwashing method. Including washing and reusing chopsticks Yes, in a lot of Asia you used to see the street vendors using the water running in the gutter for all of their washing up. Things are a bit better now, but I feel quite convinced that eating all of those things built my immunity up to record levels. The only two places I ever got a bit sick were in Pakistan and Indonesia after eating in places that seemed to be very careful with hygiene.
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Post by patricklondon on Mar 29, 2021 17:17:27 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 29, 2021 17:19:08 GMT
If someone can translate saugel The L does not belong there. Sauge is sage.
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Post by onlyMark on Mar 29, 2021 17:45:43 GMT
rather than washing them by hand as you go along You need to speak with my children. Also their stance is why do we need to wash the dishes when we have a dishwasher. street food vendors using the bucket dish washing method. When I was in India and Pakistan........... ..... mind you, reusable plates and cutlery aren't usually a thing anyway for street food. Glasses for tea maybe, but often it is just crudely made clay cups you chuck away each time.
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 29, 2021 18:43:59 GMT
Salad night for me -- grated cabbage, carrot and celery with a mustard dressing, but also two mollet eggs and a tiny bit of leftover rice with pork belly.
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Post by casimira on Mar 29, 2021 18:59:23 GMT
I kind of resent being accused of having a superior attitude and or being on a "high horse" with regards to not having, desiring, a dishwasher. As there are only two of us, and, even when did entertain more we always hand washed our dishes, flatware, along with the pots and pans (both T. and I have a healthy efficient method of cleaning/washing the pots we are finished with as we cook versus letting them pile up in the sink and left there). Of course, there are sometimes when a large Pyrex dish has to be soaked overnight because the food has so much stuck to the bottom that in order for it to be properly cleaned and even then, needed a scouring pad which would usually get tossed afterwards. Our dishes are always clean, perhaps not sterilized, but, sanitized sufficiently to use for the next meal.
At my stepfather's insistence, when he and my mother had our carriage house renovated after I went off to college, "surprised" my mother with having a dishwasher installed and she HATED it. She very, very rarely used it and in fact used it to store liquor and or wine bottles in. I remember her telling me that she would much rather have that space utilized as a cupboard for her casserole dishes. And, I feel the same way about our kitchen as does my husband. My mother was never a snobbish person, nor, did she ride on a "high horse"
(End of rant. My apologies for offending anyone but, I do get defensive when accused of being a snob etc.)
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 29, 2021 19:17:39 GMT
I thought I was the person accused of being on a high horse, but I just brushed it off, as usual.
Actually, I should say that I love doing dishes. Back in the days when I was invited to large parties (30+), the kitchen was my realm, even if I didn't really know the host. I would go around and pick up glasses (and also empty ashtrays) and go to the kitchen to wash them. People always end up in the kitchen (generally looking for more bottles or beer) and they would be amazed by my activity, especially when they had no idea who I was. Frankly, I always loved being in the kitchen because everybody went there sooner or later and it was a much calmer place for conversation when music was blaring in the main room. I made some lifelong friends by being in the kitchen, something that probably would not have happened by screaming into each other's ears over the music.
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Post by mickthecactus on Mar 29, 2021 19:21:03 GMT
Indeed . Kerouac was the jockey in my eyes...
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Post by casimira on Mar 29, 2021 21:12:25 GMT
You're all very superior about not having a dishwasher. We've had one for years and it's the most used item in the kitchen and washes far better than I can do by hand. Glasses don't go in it though. Perhaps we can leave the poor horse out of the discussion however... I can move on regarding this debate but, as I stated in the first sentence of my post; " I kind of resent being accused of being superior..." Moving along, we are having baked salmon with a stir fry of vegetables and rice.
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Post by Kimby on Mar 29, 2021 23:33:07 GMT
I just realized that I misplaced the delicious salmon leftovers from 5 nights ago in the fridge. Should I be warming it (well) for tonite or consigning it to the rubbish bin?
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 30, 2021 3:30:56 GMT
Your nose knows.
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Post by tod2 on Mar 30, 2021 7:54:15 GMT
Kimby - If it passes the nose test, heating it thoroughly should kill of any other noonoos that might give you an upset stomach. Here in my home, if it failed the sniff test, my dog with far greater sniffing ability than I, would eat it with relish......and suffer no ill effects.
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 30, 2021 15:16:56 GMT
Time to start boiling my potatoes to go with the pre-cooked tripe in tomato sauce.
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Post by tod2 on Mar 30, 2021 16:48:45 GMT
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Post by kerouac2 on Mar 30, 2021 16:55:33 GMT
I would certainly eat that, except perhaps for the shell.
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Post by whatagain on Mar 30, 2021 16:57:12 GMT
Seems quite good. I hope there is some garlic somewhere.
As for us, i will go downstairs to help fir the food. It is 7 pm, so it should be ready...
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Post by mich64 on Mar 30, 2021 17:12:33 GMT
It does all look so delicous Tod, do you make your own salad dressing? If so, could you share your recipe? Today. we celebrate the 58th birthday of my husband. He is currently with his brother and dad and they are all removing their winter tires and switching them out with summer tires, not the most exciting way to spend your birthday but something that needs to be done. On the way home he is stopping off to pick up some ribeye steaks for the grill for dinner. I will microwave some potatoes to be ready to smashed to be put into the oven on a cookie sheet with olive oil. When crispy I take them out out, I top them with shredded cheddar and chives and put under the broiler for a couple of minutes. I want to make a salad as well.
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Post by whatagain on Mar 30, 2021 17:27:52 GMT
Happy birthday to him. We celebrate the birthday of the oldest daughter. 22. I found one remaining bottle of 98. A Bordeaux Superieur.
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Post by mickthecactus on Mar 30, 2021 17:32:46 GMT
Indeed! Happy birthday Mr Mich!
I like the sound of that potato dish Mich. I shall try that. Sounds a great combination with steak.
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Post by bixaorellana on Mar 30, 2021 18:48:09 GMT
Happy birthday to lucky Mr. Mich. He is getting a wonderful birthday meal from you, Mich!
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Post by lugg on Mar 30, 2021 20:11:49 GMT
happy birthday to Mr Mich from me too - it sounds yummy. Happy Birthday too to your daughter Whatagain.
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Post by mich64 on Mar 30, 2021 20:43:55 GMT
We celebrate the birthday of the oldest daughter. 22. A very happy 22nd birthday to your daughter! Enjoy your dinner, and the wine! Thank you all for the birthday wishes! Potatoes in the oven as we speak crisping up!
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