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Post by bixaorellana on Jul 10, 2009 0:52:20 GMT
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Post by Nic on Jul 10, 2009 2:59:47 GMT
And it's definitely a lovely picture, bixa. You should also check out Hsiao-hsien Hou's Le voyage du balloon rouge. It's a wonderfully realized slice of Parisian life.
Going a little further back, I would also suggest picking up his Cafe Lumiere. A similar slice of familial life in modern Tokyo.
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Post by Jazz on Jul 10, 2009 3:44:22 GMT
And it's definitely a lovely picture, bixa. You should also check out Hsiao-hsien Hou's Le voyage du balloon rouge. It's a wonderfully realized slice of Parisian life. Going a little further back, I would also suggest picking up his Cafe Lumiere. A similar slice of familial life in modern Tokyo. is indeed well worth viewing and is Hsiao-hsien Hou's hommage to Lamorisse. To put it in context, I would watch Le Balloon Rouge, 1956, directed by Albert Lamorisse. This is a magical short film of childhood...a little boy and his red balloon. 34 minutes, set in Menilmontant, Paris. For me, the original is the best. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Balloon |
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Post by Nic on Jul 10, 2009 6:59:18 GMT
Le Voyage du Balloon Rouge is indeed well worth viewing and is Hsiao-hsien Hou's hommage to Lamorisse. To put it in context, I would watch Le Balloon Rouge, 1956, directed by Albert Lamorisse. This is a magical short film of childhood...a little boy and his red balloon. 34 minutes, set in Menilmontant, Paris. For me, the original is the best. Don't forget The Red Balloon Two! |
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Post by lagatta on Jul 10, 2009 11:53:12 GMT
I can't help but think of "Chacun cherche son chat", since my own black cat went missing like the cat in the film, and predictably brought lots of varied people together looking for him.
It isn't a cat story (the cat only appears for a very short time) but a look at a changing neighbourhood, about urban loneliness and the search for love, but also community.
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Post by bjd on Jul 10, 2009 13:59:47 GMT
I saw "Paris, je t'aime" at the movies last year. I liked most of it, except the vampire one, which I thought made no sense and didn't have to be set in Paris. Not thrilled with mimes either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2009 18:48:33 GMT
Cédric Klapisch's "Paris" with Romain Duris and Juliette Binoche (among others) might come out in the rest of the world some day. It shows an extremely photogenic Paris. You can see a nice clear (but un-subtitled) trailer for it here ("bande-annonce"), much better than the quality available on YouTube. |
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Post by lola on Jul 11, 2009 3:18:53 GMT
Nice bande-annonce, Kerouac. The actors are pretty darn photogenic, too. Juliette Binoche has such a great face.
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Post by Nic on Jul 11, 2009 3:58:28 GMT
I'm gonna throw my arms 'round Paris too! ;D
Thanks, K2. Now if I could just see Asterix & Obelisk at the Olympic Games again.
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Post by gertie on Mar 9, 2010 13:46:08 GMT
Persist. Stalker luv.   ;D |
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Post by gertie on Mar 9, 2010 13:58:16 GMT
Ok sorry kidding but hey at least they have the Dutch wooden clog dancing team for defensive action  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 21:52:45 GMT
Here is the latest Paris tourism video. Frankly, I do not like it very much.
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Post by htmb on Sept 22, 2016 21:58:47 GMT
Why not?
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Post by lagatta on Sept 23, 2016 2:22:13 GMT
I don't understand the mostly incomprehensible Englishish soundtrack - it would make sense if it were more understandable to anglo tourists. And a bit too much grandeur and not enough of the shots Mossies and others take about extraordinary things around the corner. It does indicate that Paris is a destination for various generations and that it is welcoming to "intercultural" and LGBT couples. I'd like to know what others have to say about it.
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Post by fumobici on Sept 23, 2016 2:42:55 GMT
For me the song is boring, the visuals seem stale and formulaic and nothing really stood out. Other than that, it was brilliant! Any of the usual suspects around here could make me want to visit Paris more.
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Post by whatagain on Sept 23, 2016 12:22:52 GMT
Same for me Fiulobici.
I'd add it shows a Paris that I mostly don't know. But it has indeed all the 'clichés' : Dior and clothes, the 2cv, partying, the Arc, the Eiffel tower. Strangely no cars, and since most of the shooting is done up in the air, no people in the streets either. Unless they are young and partying of course.
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Post by htmb on Sept 23, 2016 13:54:51 GMT
I don't care for it either, but the video shows what many tourists planning a trip to Paris hope to see. After all, it's a recruitment tool for the City of Paris where tourism has recently fallen. It does hit on all the old cliches of love, light, beautiful dreams, calm, but interesting street activities, etc. It's Paris as a fantasy land, where beauty, peace, and love are everywhere you look.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 13:58:58 GMT
I understand that I am not the target audience of this sort of clip, but I found it disappointing to see exclusively cliché images of Paris, and on top of that an almost completely depopulated Paris with nobody in the streets -- no traffic and no annoying pedestrians. I know exactly how they do this because all of the commercials for luxury products do the same thing -- they film street scenes at 6 a.m. on a Sunday morning in the summer.
Claude Lelouch filmed his famous short film "C'était un rendezvous" the same way -- at dawn in August.
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Post by htmb on Sept 23, 2016 14:07:39 GMT
If they showed how it really is, some tourists might go elsewhere.
It just goes to show that discerning travelers, those who want a better sense of a place before they visit, need to explore a variety of materials when planning a trip. All the more reason to have forums such as this one. Even then, especially when it comes to Paris, you can never get a true sense of a place until you've explored it in person, and go back, and go back, and go back.....
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Post by chexbres on Sept 23, 2016 14:13:20 GMT
I found this video really annoying because - aside from Lagerfeld, Ducasse, a couple of cooks in some kitchen and Mayor Hidalgo - nobody seems to be older than 27.
And also because it perpetuates the Disney-fied notion that "Paris est une fête" - and the Mayor is far from figuring out how to deal with all the nonsense that goes with it.
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Post by lagatta on Sept 23, 2016 16:12:36 GMT
There was a family with middle-aged parents; the dad had grey hair, but yes, it was very much skewed towards yoof. Almost all those advertising clips are like that. They were hardly going to show Mayor Hidalgo in a tedious council meeting, or laying flowers at the site of a terror attack...
I don't think we got a shot of the new trams, which would have been a nice touch.
But have we seen any better clips about major cities recently?
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Post by htmb on Sept 23, 2016 18:49:00 GMT
I was watching a film the other night and recognized an obscure, out of the way cafe in the 19th where I had been on two different trips. I'm used to seeing landmark type places in films, of course, but this was fun to see. Maybe I'm just getting better at recognizing different parts of Paris.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 18:55:17 GMT
And now for something completely different.
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Post by htmb on Sept 23, 2016 20:11:38 GMT
Wonderful! How nice it is to see the old footage paired side by side with modern scenes.
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Post by lagatta on Sept 23, 2016 21:49:43 GMT
That is technically beautiful, especially the two men waving - the two men feeding birds might have been staged.
Positives about the past - people of ALL CLASSES walked a lot. There was far less obesity than now, and streets weren't given over only to cars (or horsedrawn vehicles). Many poor people moved with handcarts, which must have been horribly hard, but at least they had the right to do it.
Negatives - those horses polluted too, and their excrement also caused pedestrians to slip, fall and sometimes injure themselves. Ideally manure could have been collected and re-used, but I doubt it always really was.
The worst years for exhaust in Western cities were between the before and after.
While there wasn't the pervasive motor traffic that there is now, also note that many scenes seemed far less "planted" than they are now. People have come to understand the importance of greenery, even in the heart of major cities. Parks like Buttes-Chaumont were a start in understanding that it was important even for working-class people, but I think that consciousness is far more develped now.
And of course, as a woman, the very constrictive garments women wear are infuriating, but even the clothing of middle and upper-class men was very constricting, and the lads in flat caps had even worse things to worry about, as did washerwomen and midinettes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 22:25:20 GMT
And here is what Paris looked like when I was 11 years old. Same clichés over and over again in every travelogue!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 22:26:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2016 5:26:48 GMT
The recent "Paris je t'aime" video (reply #11) apparently annoyed quite a few Parisians. So someone has made an alternative version. They also made a map of all of the places they filmed. Dancing on the roof of the Palais Garnier is not one of them. www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=19tGQpXgxLjmcNSdpR-mLm-CG4bY |
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Post by bjd on Oct 15, 2016 7:21:58 GMT
I hadn't seen the previous clip (post #11) before and just watched it, thinking "what a piece of crap" with its unintelligible sound track and the only Parisian in the entire thing the 2 seconds of the mayor towards the end. That was before I read everyone else's comments!
Then I just watched the clip just above and found it much better, and it actually makes me want to go to Paris. Granted, I don't spend my time buying food and eating, but at least it shows a city where people actually live. The first clip only showed tourists.
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Post by fumobici on Oct 15, 2016 9:39:20 GMT
Yes, massively better than the video it was reacting to, of which "piece of crap" seems a particularly apt description.
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;D
