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Post by hwinpp on Mar 31, 2010 4:40:54 GMT
This is what we did it in: The fist time:  The second time:  The third time:  The worst thing that happened was a flat tire in Afghanistan... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2010 5:02:49 GMT
Now, they would be full of bullet holes.  |
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Post by onlymark on Mar 31, 2010 7:20:42 GMT
The Carnet can be expensive but very few people try and cross without one nowadays. Some are successful, some not. It all depends on how persuasive you are at borders. Basically it is a 'passport' for the vehicle. It guarantees in a way that you will take the vehicle out of the country, otherwise you lose money. The problem is that you have to deposit or guarantee a sum of money, that can be for the countries you'll pass through, up to 500% of the value of the vehicle. For Egypt, when you get your carnet in the UK, it is 800%. So, if the value of your car is, say, 3000 pounds, you need to reserve or guarantee 15,000 pounds. You don';t spend this money, you just have to have some way of having it, be it a straight deposit, or your bank guarantees it, or you buy and Insurance that will cover it. More information is here - www.rac.co.uk/plan-a-trip/carnet-de-passage/That's why a lot of people just use public transport. |
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Post by onlymark on Mar 31, 2010 7:22:07 GMT
You don't need for sure a 4x4, virtually all the route is now tarmac, and as hwinpp demonstrates, a good solid car will do it.
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Post by spindrift on Mar 31, 2010 11:20:11 GMT
Oh my goodness..I had no idea that we could take an ordinary car... I'm horrified that we'd have to guarantee up to 800% of the value of the car. It had better be an old estate car. ' ;D the dynamic duo will be very persuasive at borders  ' |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2010 11:57:33 GMT
We certainly will be  hwinpp, I'm also surprised that you did it in such ordinary cars. So the roads can't be that bad along the way. Crikey they may ask for 800% guarantee for the car? How the heck can they get away with this? hmmm....maybe it will be backpacking, hitchhiking and public transport after all. Now that will really make this trip interesting.  . Kerouac, I see what you mean about having the worry of your car being stolen or vandalized if driving ourselves. I guess we could always rent a car locally if we stay in one place for a while, even if only for a few days. Mark, I am serious about this trip, it's a case of 'when' and not 'if'. |
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Post by onlymark on Mar 31, 2010 12:54:53 GMT
It's 800% if you want to go to Egypt. You don't, so it'd be 'only' 500%.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2010 20:06:43 GMT
Oh well, that should be just fine then. ;D (not).
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Post by spindrift on Mar 31, 2010 21:26:39 GMT
Not to worry too much about cost....if we really want to do it, then we will.  |
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Post by spindrift on Apr 4, 2010 8:40:26 GMT
This princess friend of mine will be starting her journey from the UK to Kathmandu in May. I'm rather envious. It will take her months to get there simply because she intends to tour around Europe on the way. She will sail to Bilbao first and drive around Spain then go into France to Monaco, then Trieste ...Yugoslavia, the Dalmatian coast, Greece and some of the Greek island, then Istanbul...Iran (skipping Pakistan) to go further north to Kashgar and into china, then eventually down to Ktm. She will buy a large Jeep or a Hummer for the journey. Sounds good and also rather tiring. Lucky thing. She will have a male driver.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 17:17:12 GMT
Oh that sounds like so much fun. I guess May must be the best time to start, when most of the rainy season is out of the way? Let us know how she gets along, it'll be so interesting to see what she encounters on the way. Has she ever done this journey before?
One of my brothers has done part of the route before. He likes travelling around Europe and goes on sailing cruses around the Med. I should ask him more about that actually...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 17:22:53 GMT
Shoes. what kind to take with us. Very important question this! I'm not one for high heals, unless going out somewhere special. So here's a collection, what do you think would be best? Or should we take them all?  or  or oooh...I like these:  |
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Post by spindrift on Apr 7, 2010 17:26:15 GMT
I've got all of those - my flipflops are jewelled  We'll take the lot; we're bound to be invited to 'nice' places on the way. No, she hasn't done it before but her father did it 3 times - both ways. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 17:47:40 GMT
Amazing. So she must have a good idea of what to expect?
Yes, let's take them all, this trip is not all about driving, we want to all kinds of fun along the way.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 7, 2010 17:56:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2010 18:05:03 GMT
I don't think you'll ever arrive with those shoes. Have fun, burqa brides! |
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Post by gertie on Apr 8, 2010 4:21:35 GMT
Kerouac2: Party Pooper Is this a daring duo only or can I come along? I did some hunting, and there are insurance companies which will provide this "insurance" that the car will leave, however...if it does not you forfeit a significant amount of money. Even if everything is fine, you still forfeit a significant amount. It is, however, possible with a letter of credit from your bank, which sounds potentially much better. Basically, you deposit the necessary amount with your bank, which serves as a sort of disinterested third party. As long as you get that car out by whatever way, you are good to go. Unfortunately, if you fail to leave with the car...yeah, the bank hands them your money. I'm thinking I would hire a donkey to haul it out if I had to. I wonder how much you have to deposit for one of those powered skateboards?  |
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Post by gertie on Apr 8, 2010 4:23:28 GMT
Ahahaha looks like someone already had my idea!  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 21:37:46 GMT
gertie, that is too funny! hmm...actually that's not a bad idea.  Can four people fit in that? I could always ride on the donkey I suppose. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 21:38:46 GMT
I don't think you'll ever arrive with those shoes. Have fun, burqa brides! I think you are NOT taking this with the seriousness it deserves! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2010 21:41:44 GMT
gertie , the more I hear about all the money the bank would want to put down for the car as a guarantee, the more I think the donkey or hitchhiking sounds like a good idea.
Of course you can join us, it would be fun. Don't worry we can always take the bus too.
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Post by spindrift on Apr 8, 2010 22:35:46 GMT
And who is the 4th you're talking about Deyana....do you mean a MANLY driver? someone to run around doing our errands? Gertie, you sound like Fun.....is your other name Ethel? |
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Post by gertie on Apr 10, 2010 4:30:44 GMT
Spindrift, you gave me quite a chuckle as our husbands like to call my best girlfriend and I Ethel and Lucy! The only thing, they say we can't make up our minds which of us is channeling Lucy and which Ethel! I don't think we could fit for in that particular model, but maybe we could find something in a VW bus model with perhaps a team to pull? If we take the bus, I would like the no molting poultry section, please. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2010 13:40:28 GMT
A VW bus model (maybe the camper type) would be perfect, gertie. Like this one:  We could take turns at sleeping on the roof. I'll stay inside if it rains! |
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Post by Kimby on Apr 11, 2010 5:14:38 GMT
Shoes. what kind to take with us. Very important question this! oooh...I like these: You COULD take the shoes in your old avatar photo. I've always liked those. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2010 11:25:12 GMT
Kimby do you mean this one?:  I would flag down the local talent help, and play music at the same time |
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Post by spindrift on Apr 11, 2010 13:47:08 GMT
Gertie - you made me chuckle - my bestfriend and myself - we are known as Patsy and Ed.... I am Patsy..... (Joanna Lumley character)... from the Ab Fab series. They were usually out shopping in Harvey Nichols I'm all for a little titillation on the way East.... |
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Post by Kimby on Apr 12, 2010 14:41:13 GMT
Kimby do you mean this one? No, it was the crossed ankles with beaded sandals that I liked. You were "Marcy" for awhile when wearing that avatar. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2010 15:02:45 GMT
Oh okay, I know the one you mean, I remember you saying you liked that one. (you have a good memory that was a while ago now) This one:  Actually I think I need a new avatar, I'm going to use that one again, now that summer is coming. |
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Post by Kimby on Apr 12, 2010 15:04:02 GMT
Yes, your current avatar is too goth. I vote for the summer feet.
(and the beads I remembered are on the ankles, not the sandals, it appears)
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We'll take the lot; we're bound to be invited to 'nice' places on the way.
