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Post by kerouac2 on May 17, 2021 13:14:43 GMT
Azerbaijan has chosen to play the sex card, but the singer probably needs to work on her English a bit.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 19, 2021 14:11:04 GMT
The weeding process has begun, and the awful songs by Ireland and Australia were tossed out along with four others.
Russia has one of the best entries visually, a feminist anthem sung in the national language for once.
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Post by whatagain on May 19, 2021 17:21:45 GMT
Russian language is superb.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 20, 2021 21:09:33 GMT
Finland made it to the finals although they will not be physically present since one or two of them have tested positive for covid. In any case, they don't look much like socially distanced sort of people.
All of the acts recorded their performances a month ago just in case this sort of thing happened.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 22, 2021 19:14:13 GMT
It has begun. Anyone with access to Peacock in America can watch it live.
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Post by mickthecactus on May 22, 2021 20:13:24 GMT
Iceland is my family’s favourite so far.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 22, 2021 20:45:06 GMT
My favourite too, followed by Malta, Lithuania and Azerbaijan. (Not allowing myself to mention France.)
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Post by mickthecactus on May 22, 2021 20:57:26 GMT
The France entry was so French. Edith Piaf all over again.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 22, 2021 21:19:12 GMT
My favourite is Switzerland, followed by Iceland.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 22, 2021 21:20:29 GMT
Lithuanua and Ukaine were good too.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 22, 2021 22:59:37 GMT
The double nil for England was embarrassing. But this is the 5th time they've come in last so perhaps their selection process needs fine tuning.
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Post by mossie on May 23, 2021 7:01:12 GMT
I am too much of a fuddy duddy to have watched this, but the preview I saw of the UK entry gave me the feeling that it did not stand a chance. Bring back Abba and Waterloo! Sorry, mustn't upset the French.
We are, of course, totally ostracised now , having dared to leave the marvellous EU, another reason for nil points.
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Post by bjd on May 23, 2021 8:36:49 GMT
We are, of course, totally ostracised now , having dared to leave the marvellous EU, another reason for nil points. You mean even the Australians didn't vote for you?
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Post by kerouac2 on May 23, 2021 8:43:32 GMT
Not a single country voted for England, and half of them are not in the EU.
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Post by whatagain on May 23, 2021 8:52:11 GMT
IK is not ostracized but is a target for jokes. And yes, as for me, they should not even have come to Eurovision : when someone wants out, he doesnt come back for the fun part.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 23, 2021 9:23:35 GMT
The United Kingdom will leave Eurovision if it pulls out of the EBU, which is not at all the same as the EU. But since the BBC, ITV, STV, Channel Four and Sianel 4 Cymru are all members, if even one of them remains, the UK will continue in Eurovision.
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Post by bjd on May 23, 2021 11:02:10 GMT
Not even anyone in England voted for England. Must have been only Remainers who watched.
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Post by kerouac2 on May 23, 2021 11:17:31 GMT
You can't vote for your own country -- if you are in it. If the borders had been open, probably the UK would have received some votes coming from Spain.
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Post by whatagain on May 23, 2021 12:52:44 GMT
I don't like the italian song. Do you ?
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Post by patricklondon on May 23, 2021 13:11:48 GMT
The United Kingdom will leave Eurovision if it pulls out of the EBU, which is not at all the same as the EU. But since the BBC, ITV, STV, Channel Four and Sianel 4 Cymru are all members, if even one of them remains, the UK will continue in Eurovision. The EBU (and the ESC) pre-date and have nothing to do with the EU. Indeed the BBC was one of the prime movers in setting up the EBU as a means of technical collaboration between (initially all public/state) broadcasters, especially in the days of several different technical TV systems (though the EBU also facilitates radio exchanges and collaborations) The ESC came later as just another example of what it could be used for, besides news reporting and sporting competitions: it's far from the whole show. FWIW, even the very first ESC produced a winner no-one remembers, while one of the losers became a transatlantic hit.
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 23, 2021 14:46:45 GMT
The uk entry wasn't as awful as previous uk entries...but it never got anywhere in the charts at home either, so we didn't have high hopes. I don't like the Italian winner (and I quite like metal music...this was NOT heavy metal...niether was Finland's entry) I thought the Swiss entry would win and was quite disappointed when it didn't.
We don't take eurovision seriously...its all very talent show/last minute when entries are selected here. Do all the other countries only enter relatively unknown artists?
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Post by kerouac2 on May 23, 2021 14:55:10 GMT
I don't like the italian song. Do you ? I find it effective for its style. It no longer corresponds to my tastes, but it would be quite alarming if it did, considering my age. This sort of music is for the young, something that some of us used to be. I think it's a shame that the Eurovision authorities forced them to clean up the lyrics for their performance. Then again, if people understood the lyrics (which I got from Google Translate), probably fewer people would have voted for it.
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Post by patricklondon on May 23, 2021 17:20:58 GMT
As I recall, Russia persuaded the French star Patricia Kaas to sing their entry a few years ago. Didn't work. I think (but I'm not sure) singing for Switzerland was a steppingstone to international fame, rather than an application of pre-existing fame, for the likes of Celine Dion and Esther Ofarim. Of course the performers may be big stars in their own countries, but the style of music is the kind that tends to have a high turnover of, frankly, disposable youngsters. And strictly speaking, it's supposed to be a song contest rather than a performance/staging contest, but that went by the board decades ago. My blog | My photos | My video clips | My Librivox recordings"too literate to be spam"
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Post by kerouac2 on May 23, 2021 17:50:13 GMT
France has tried big stars from time to time, but they were always dismal failures. When Patricia Kaas was big -- and a superstar in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, etc. -- she represented France, probably on the assumption that "at last a few countries will give us 12 points." Wrong. She came in 8th in 2009, which was the year that Alexander Rybak won for Norway -- because he is actually from Belarus. However, the voting blocs of the past seem to be dissipating finally (Russia = Belarus = Ukraine = 12 points is in decline) except for Greece/Cyprus (12 points) and the affinities of the Balkan countries.
I still remember the days when other cultural affinities were important. France used to always get 12 points from Israel and Portugal, for example, and received the same in return. Those days are long gone. In 2016, Amir represented France and received only 8 points from Israel even though he is Israeli.
It is still the voting that interests me the most during the Eurovision contest. It is a geopolitical sociological gold mine every year since the best song wins so rarely.
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Post by onlyMark on May 23, 2021 18:58:45 GMT
Didn't Engelbert Humperdinck represent the UK a few years ago? He didn't get anywhere either.
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Post by lugg on May 23, 2021 19:49:58 GMT
I did not watch it but of course noted that the UK received nil points. I don't think it was totally down to political voting ...just a crap boring song .
I have watched the winner - jeepers its awful too.
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Post by patricklondon on May 25, 2021 10:35:06 GMT
I've just remembered - one year the BBC put up Bonnie Tyler precisely because she was said to be very popular in Germany. That didn't work either. There's no way of knowing what's going to appeal across so many countries and tastes. Clearly, there's a baseline of the kind of dance-beat songs that just seem to have one (quite thin) idea repeated with little or no development or story. But they get lost in the mix. As to what stands out from the rest enough - chanson? snarly rock? heartfelt ballad? It's all a gamble. There might be clearer choices if they cut down the final to a dozen or so. My blog | My photos | My video clips | My Librivox recordings"too literate to be spam"
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Post by kerouac2 on May 25, 2021 11:31:54 GMT
Well the first Eurovision song contest in 1956 had only seven countries represented, but they submitted two songs each. Switzerland won. The audience looked quite different, too.
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Post by patricklondon on May 25, 2021 15:38:05 GMT
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Post by cheerypeabrain on May 25, 2021 18:13:38 GMT
Bill Bailey has thrown his hat into the ring for next years eurovision should be a laugh. Next door have builders working on their roof... they have their radio on full blast every day. The French eurovision song is played often...very popular. It's growing on me
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