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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 17:18:57 GMT
This is part of an ongoing discussion that my husband and I have had for a very long time and generally agree upon. There are several actors (male and female) whom we think,and insist,can't act... I'm going to open up this thread and throw out there,for all to agree or disagree,that Robert Redford cannot act. Every role I have have ever seen him in,he is the same. Watch , Out of Africa, and see if he isn't the Sundance Kid all over again. We have some others as well. For now,we'll start with Redford and see where this goes,or doesn't. Feel free to add to the list. (Apologies to all you Redford fans out there  )
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Post by bixaorellana on May 29, 2010 17:24:55 GMT
Don't apologize to me about Redford! My only complaint is to ask why Dennis Quaid isn't at the top of the list.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 17:37:46 GMT
Dennis Quaid is on the list as is another actor whose name is escaping me at the moment (thought it was Val Kilmer but isn't...someone of his generation though...  ),will think about some more. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 17:40:19 GMT
Keanu Reeves
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Post by paristraveler on May 29, 2010 18:31:14 GMT
Jerry Seinfeld!! He is the WORST!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2010 18:44:21 GMT
Actually, I was looking at the list of Robert Redford's films, and I think he was almost an actor at the beginning of his career. Things went wrong when he became popular.
I remember thinking he was good in Little Fauss and Big Halsy, Inside Daisy Clover, This Property is Condemned and even Barefoot in the Park. It all went downhill after that (Downhill Racer wasn't bad either.).
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Post by onlymark on May 30, 2010 7:30:31 GMT
Michael Caine.
Sean Connery.
Tom Cruise.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2010 10:17:42 GMT
I disagree with your Redford assessment K2,I don't think he could act from day one,yes there were glimmers here and there but,all those movies you listed...maybe,you need to sit down and watch them again  . I agree about Tom Cruise. Sean Connery I haven't seen enough of his films. Michael Caine I loved in Educating Rita,his others not too bad,either. There's a great story about Sir Laurence Olivier and Dustin Hoffman while making Marathon Man together. Hoffman was still pretty new to acting,and of "the Method" school,wheras,Olivier,trained in the old school,classics,theatre etc. Hoff man had stayed up all night to get into character,all bleary eyed for his role. Olivier reportedly shook his head and said",I say ol'boy,why don't you just try 'acting'"? |
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Post by auntieannie on May 30, 2010 11:23:12 GMT
What about Keira Knightley? I think she is just being Keira in every role. Not a shred of acting there. Feel free to correct me.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2010 11:27:59 GMT
YES!! Was trying to think of an actress who belongs in here,and she really does fit the bill. How very disappointed I was in her in Atonement,(for which she got a BAFTA). Her costumes were to die for but,she really did not do the role much justice at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2010 4:49:27 GMT
I would put Jennifer Aniston on this list if she hadn't made The Good Girl. Now I just suspect that the poor woman is only offered roles where she can do her 'Friends' act over and over and over again.
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Post by tillystar on Jun 2, 2010 5:32:00 GMT
Ray Winstone
Colin Farrell
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Post by BigIain on Jun 2, 2010 6:19:06 GMT
Oh People, Puhlease!!!
Nicolas Cage.... End of discussion!
( *In best Bond accent*: Mark, how dare you shuggesht that Shean Connery ish in thish category)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2010 6:50:44 GMT
Nicolas Cage has indeed become a total caricature, but he did some good work in the ancient past (Leaving Las Vegas, Raising Arizona...). I think it is the whole deal of formerly serious actors accepting parts in all of these superhero and cartoon movies that leads them to believe that the more they ham it up instead of doing serious acting, the more money they can make (and shit, they're right).
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Post by onlymark on Jun 2, 2010 7:05:36 GMT
What I want an actor to do is to make me forget who he/she is and 'be' the character'. Very few seem to be able to. Especially if they've only got one accent (usually Scottish).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2010 11:35:37 GMT
I don't know if any of you remember an actor who did a fair amount of work in the 1970's,Keir Dullea.( 2001 Space Odyssey,The Fox,numerous others and a long TV career as well as stage). In fact, I believe, still doing stage work... I used to hang out with a bunch of theater majors in college and the running joke about Dullea was "Keir today,gone tomorrow". I don't see Cage in this category necessarily,although I can see why some people would put him in here based on many of his movies. His role in Leaving Las Vegas and a later one playing a burned out NYC EMT, Bringing in the Dead (Scorcese directed)were brilliantly performed. He's made some incredibly poor career choices in some of his roles and subsequently suffered because of. Another actor,and it took me a long time to be able to say this about,but, after seeing him in an old movie this past weekend,sucked it up and acknowledged,is Gregory Peck. Don't know Ray Winstone  agree about Colin Farrell though |
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 3, 2010 19:41:17 GMT
Of the actors mentioned here with whom I'm familiar ......... I've seen both Michael Caine and Tom Cruise in movies where I thought they were really good. Agree that Sean Connery is tedious in the extreme. Hmmmm on Olivier's snarky remark. Dustin Hoffman is really, really good. Keira Knightly ~~ what's the matter, Annie and Casimira, y'all don't think that drifting around with the mouth hanging open in that valley girl way is acting? I did find her marginally bearable in The Duchess, but that's probably because I was so motivated to watch the costumes. I've seen Colin Farrell in three movies so far and thought he was really good in all of them. I have to agree with both Kerouac and Casimira about Nicholas Cage, also with Kerouac's remarks about actors becoming caricatures of themselves. What's the deal with Cage's hair, though? It never looks real. It's been ages and ages since I've seen a Gregory Peck movie. He does seem to be from that era of casting actors based on their looks. Isn't it way past time to mention *shudder* Ellen Barkin?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2010 19:48:17 GMT
Oh, I forgive her just for making The Big Easy.
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Post by bazfaz on Jun 3, 2010 20:22:49 GMT
Sean Connery was a good 007.
How about Roger Moore?
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Post by auntieannie on Jun 6, 2010 11:05:56 GMT
Can't say I've seen Roger Moore in a film... only maybe 5 minutes of moonraker and I thought that was an actor having fun on a film set.
But am a fan of Sean as 007. The other films I've seen him act in have been commercial fodder rather than anything else and when watching these, I try and forget about the acting.
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Post by happytraveller on Jun 6, 2010 14:14:05 GMT
Sean Connery was a good 007. How about Roger Moore? I don't think Roger Moore is that bad an actor but he really skis very badly (saw him once) ;D *end of threadjack* |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2010 16:05:02 GMT
That was a good threadjack HT!
I don't know Moore's work,not having seen any of the Bond movies he has done.(has he done anything else?)
I didn't mean to imply that Dustin Hoffman couldn't act,it was just a funny story regarding Olivier's disdain for the method school of acting.
I think Hoffman is a fine actor indeed and also chooses his roles well IMHO.
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Post by tillystar on Jun 6, 2010 17:56:30 GMT
OK well to be fair to him I have only seen him in Alexander. But as he was so shocklingly awful in that I haven't been able to bring myself to watch another film that he has been in. Except Dr Parnissus, but he was barely in that an by the time he showed up my mind was boggling too much to notice.
Clive Owen is another one who can put me off a film. Not sure if he is a bad actor or it's just I don't get him. He plays all these hard man rolls but just looks like a big softy dufus pretending to be King Arthur or whatever.
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Post by bjd on Jun 7, 2010 17:13:44 GMT
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Post by hwinpp on Jun 8, 2010 10:30:39 GMT
I like all those actors and their movies except Keanu Reeves.
Thank God he's stopped. Constantine must have been the low- light of his career.
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Post by joanne28 on Jun 14, 2010 2:52:28 GMT
Both Demi Moore (or Dummy Moore, as I lovingly refer to her) and Julia Roberts are horrible, and they make major cash.
Tom Cruise - needs repeating. To add insult to injury, he's so smug. Plus, who the hell decided he was good-looking? The one thing about Rainman was that he could be Dustin Hoffman's brother, which, much as I like Dustin, isn't a compliment.
Nicolas Cage belongs to the category of actors who once did good work and have lost their way.
Ray Winstone is a one-note actor, or at least what I've seen him in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2010 2:56:48 GMT
I never liked Julia Roberts until I saw her in Erin Brokovich,somehow,she redeemed herself in that role for me.
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 14, 2010 3:12:35 GMT
I used to really dislike her, also. Can't remember which movie it was, but I too fell under the spell of her big smile.
Demi Moore ("Dummy Moore" ~ *snork*) looks adenoidally stoopid. I liked that dress she wore to the Oscars, though.
Meg Ryan -- barf-o-rama!
And, just because it bears repeating: Ellen Barkin. AND Big Easy was a smelly pile of coked-out Hollywood jerkos' excrement.
Back to older actors ~~ ever since Anna Magnani said this line to Burt Lancaster in The Rose Tattoo, I've never looked at him the same way: "The body of my husband, with the head of a clown!"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2010 3:18:06 GMT
You really don't like Ellen Barkin do you Bixa? I'm not mad about her either,maybe in Sea of Love she was okay.May have been Pacino's influence. |
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Post by bixaorellana on Jun 14, 2010 3:19:34 GMT
*TWITCH*
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